# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1181 "2016-12-31T17:55:52Z")

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[Milwaukee Thugs Target Concealed Carrier, Earn Bullets](http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/12/30/milwaukee-thugs-target-concealed-carrier-earn-bullets/)

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> A man walking his dog Tuesday night near his home shot two people who tried to rob him, killing one and wounding the other.

Two on one and one prevails. One young criminal doesn’t get to be an old criminal and one who’s gotten a very clear demonstration of where his life choices can take him.

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**Author:** ![Donpeyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Donpeyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donpeyote)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1182 "2016-12-31T17:59:40Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I guess this guy is a fan of the Terminator. “I’ll be back!”. He didn’t account for a armed store owner. Injuries no fatalities.
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> One lady ran off with the suspect’s gun and tried to hide it. She’s charged with obstruction of justice.
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> [http://klfy.com/2016/11/16/abbeville-store-owner-shoots-back-at-armed-assailant-hospitalizes-one-suspect/](http://klfy.com/2016/11/16/abbeville-store-owner-shoots-back-at-armed-assailant-hospitalizes-one-suspect/)

Potential “My Baby d’int do nuffin” defense in court case ? and BTW now is a great time to build a middle tier AR 15 Rifle or $500.00 (with Mags & Sling)

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1183 "2017-01-11T07:54:50Z")

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Armed robbers enter gun store. Can you predict what happens next?

[http://www.13wmaz.com/mb/news/local/gun-shop-owner-who-shot-killed-robbery-suspect-i-had-no-other-choice/379131804](http://www.13wmaz.com/mb/news/local/gun-shop-owner-who-shot-killed-robbery-suspect-i-had-no-other-choice/379131804)

> **[Armed robber is killed on camera as he tries to hold up gun store](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4106236/Armed-robber-killed-camera-tries-hold-gun-store-quick-thinking-owner-64-shot-dead-accomplice-fled.html)**
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> Surveillance footage at Dixie Gun and Pawn in Mableton, Georgia, showed the moment the would-be criminal and an accomplice stormed into the store dressed in ski masks.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2017, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1184 "2017-01-15T08:07:05Z")

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In other news, [Passing Driver Kills Man Attacking Arizona Trooper on Road](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/passing-driver-kills-man-shot-arizona-officer-ambush-44739139):

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> A man who shot and wounded an Arizona state trooper Thursday along a remote highway and then started slamming the helpless officer’s head into the pavement as the two struggled was shot to death by a passing driver, authorities said.
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> Trooper Edward Andersson, a 27-year veteran of the Department of Public Safety, was shot in the right shoulder and chest in what authorities called an ambush and was in serious but stable condition after surgery at a Goodyear hospital.
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> “My trooper would not be alive without his assistance,” DPS Director Frank Milstead said of the driver who stopped.

Even after stopping, the good samaritan asked the police officer if he wanted help. Um, yes, he’s slamming my head into the ground, can you help?

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And in other news, [Boy defends home in shootout; suspect dies 13-year-old grabbed mother’s gun when 2 tried to break in, police say](http://www.postandcourier.com/archives/boy-defends-home-in-shootout-suspect-dies--year-old/article_74893892-6667-55f8-b621-d90554bfd713.html)

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> The attempted burglary unfolded just before 1:30 p.m. at the Woodside neighborhood residence, where the boy said he became suspicious after seeing a vehicle pull up behind the house, according to an arrest affidavit.
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> The boy saw a man try to break into the back of the home, “at which time he feared for his safety” and grabbed his mother’s pistol, the document states. He began firing at the man, and the Sheriff’s Office reported that the man returned fire.
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> The two suspects then fled, and as they drove away, the boy continued shooting at them, according to the affidavit.
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> Brown had been shot three times, and Bennett drove him to the hospital. The gray Chevy Sonic they were in had bullet holes in it, the affidavit states.

Good shooting by the 13 year old. Hopefully it doesn’t impact him negatively mentally too much.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1185 "2017-01-16T11:41:31Z")

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I’m not convinced of the wisdom of shooting at someone running or driving away. If you miss, those bullets still go somewhere. Sometimes they go into other people.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1186 "2017-01-16T14:24:14Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m not convinced of the wisdom of shooting at someone running or driving away. If you miss, those bullets still go somewhere. Sometimes they go into other people.

It is illegal in Arkansas.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1187 "2017-02-21T20:09:18Z")

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[Shooting of innocent 11 year old girl brings good news to family!](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/takiya-holmes-death-saves-life-of-cousin-in-need-of-kidney/) Because she was caught in gang crossfire, she was able to donate a kidney to her cousin.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1188 "2017-02-22T02:02:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Shooting of innocent 11 year old girl brings good news to family!](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/takiya-holmes-death-saves-life-of-cousin-in-need-of-kidney/) Because she was caught in gang crossfire, she was able to donate a kidney to her cousin.

This feels like subtle ways to derail the thread or go against it to me. Let’s avoid the double, backhanded links like from here on, please.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1189 "2017-02-22T02:43:20Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> This feels like subtle ways to derail the thread or go against it to me. Let’s avoid the double, backhanded links like from here on, please.

Yes, that was tacky.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1190 "2017-02-22T17:43:32Z")

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In other news, [NH eliminates license requirement to carry concealed gun, effective immediately](http://www.concordmonitor.com/sununu-signs-conceal-carry-bill-8252381):

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> People It’s now legal to carry a concealed gun in New Hampshire without a license.
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> Republican Gov. Chris Sununu signed so-called “constitutional carry” into law Wednesday morning, his first signing since taking office in early January.
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> “It is common-sense legislation,” he said during a ceremony in the Executive Council chambers. “This is about making sure that our laws on our books are keeping people safe while remaining true to the live-free-or-die spirit.”

This makes 12 states where residents no longer need a permit for concealed carry. I think there may be two more that adopt constitutional carry in 2017. :fingers crossed:

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1191 "2017-02-22T18:10:07Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> In other news, [NH eliminates license requirement to carry concealed gun, effective immediately](http://www.concordmonitor.com/sununu-signs-conceal-carry-bill-8252381):

Shouldn’t make any difference for the overwhelming vast majority of law abiding gun owners, as

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> police chiefs have testified that they reject very few.

> [@Bone](#):
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> This makes 12 states where residents no longer need a permit for concealed carry. I think there may be two more that adopt constitutional carry in 2017. :fingers crossed:

There are those who have their fingers crossed for other reasons.

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> Members of law enforcement have opposed the change, saying the licensing process is a way to prevent bad actors from carrying concealed guns and gives needed discretion to chiefs.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1192 "2017-03-22T13:45:26Z")

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An Ohio law went into effect yesterday that prohibits employers and property owners having and enforcing policies that prohibit concealed carry holders from having guns in their cars. As an Ohio concealed carry permit holder who commutes 60 miles one way to my office, I am happy to know that I can’t be legally fired for having a pistol locked in my trunk. [Here’s a story about it.](http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/03/ohio_gun_law_changes_take_effe.html)

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1193 "2017-03-22T14:01:36Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> An Ohio law went into effect yesterday that prohibits employers and property owners having and enforcing policies that prohibit concealed carry holders from having guns in their cars. As an Ohio concealed carry permit holder who commutes 60 miles one way to my office, I am happy to know that I can’t be legally fired for having a pistol locked in my trunk. [Here’s a story about it.](http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/03/ohio_gun_law_changes_take_effe.html)

Interesting. I realize there is debate and disagreement about this kind of law, as it seems to pit a constitutional right against property rights. I understand the property rights argument - that a property owner gets to make rules regarding his own property. But when those rules come packaged in the entire employer/employment power inequity structure, it’s far too easy for an employer to just make a blanket policy that can create a huge inconvenience and safety issue for some employees.

On balance, I am in favor of the law. Sure, employers can have a policy to not allow firearms inside plants and offices, but it doesn’t strike me as troublesome that they can’t extend the ban to employees’ personal vehicles.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1194 "2017-03-22T14:41:39Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> An Ohio law went into effect yesterday that prohibits employers and property owners having and enforcing policies that prohibit concealed carry holders from having guns in their cars. As an Ohio concealed carry permit holder who commutes 60 miles one way to my office, I am happy to know that I can’t be legally fired for having a pistol locked in my trunk. [Here’s a story about it.](http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/03/ohio_gun_law_changes_take_effe.html)

At least they put this part into it, “The new law also grants civil immunity to employers for injuries and deaths that result from guns brought on company property.”

The law itself recognizes that this is likely to have the effect of increasing injuries or death on company property, but at least I don’t need to worry about being sued when it happens.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1195 "2017-03-24T16:15:45Z")

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In other news, Governor [Burgum signs “constitutional carry” bill into law](https://www.governor.nd.gov/news/burgum-signs-%E2%80%9Cconstitutional-carry%E2%80%9D-bill-law):

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> BISMARCK, N.D. – Governor Doug Burgum today signed legislation allowing law-abiding citizens to carry a concealed handgun if they have possessed a valid North Dakota driver’s license or state ID card for at least a year.
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> The “constitutional carry” authority provided under House Bill 1169 applies only within North Dakota’s borders. Those wanting concealed carry reciprocity with other states must apply for a Class 1 or Class 2 North Dakota concealed weapon license, for which the requirements remain unchanged.

North Dakota becomes the 13th state to pass constitutional carry. Now over the 25% of states mark, and a little north of 70% of the US population in areas of either shall issue or constitutional carry.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1196 "2017-03-24T16:25:12Z")

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Arkansas just expanded concealed carry to college campuses and other areas. Sports Arenas are not allowed.

I have to renew my CC in May. I’m not sure how the extra training will effect me. I had the regular CC class a three years ago.

[https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/99537654/](https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/99537654/)

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> The law mandates up to eight hours of active-shooter training for a person with a concealed handgun license who is&nbsp;21 or older to be able to carry a handgun on&nbsp;state college campuses or into&nbsp;bars and government buildings —&nbsp;all places that had previously been restricted. More than 220,000 people have concealed carry permits in the state.
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> While the law will take effect on Sept. 15, the&nbsp;Arkansas State Police has until January to develop the training guidelines.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1197 "2017-03-28T14:23:37Z")

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It may be awhile before authorities decide whether to charge the homeowner’s son. Three deaths is a bit extreme. Especially since they weren’t armed with guns.

There had been other burglaries in the neighborhood in the past few months. These three were probably responsible. I suspect there won’t be any more break ins for awhile.

> **[Suspected Getaway Driver Faces Murder Charges After 3 Teen Burglars Shot Dead...](https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/three-teens-shot-dead-after-breaking-into-oklahoma-residence/amp/)**
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> Three teenagers dressed in black and wearing masks and gloves were killed by a resident when they broke into a home, Oklahoma authorities said Monday. A fourth suspect, the alleged getaway driver, …

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> Three teens dressed in black and wearing masks and gloves were killed by a resident when they broke into a home, Oklahoma authorities said Monday.
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> The 23-year-old son of the homeowner fired shots from a rifle; officials said. One suspect had a knife, another carried brass knuckles.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1198 "2017-03-28T14:36:12Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It may be awhile before authorities decide whether to charge the homeowner’s son. Three deaths is a bit extreme. Especially since they weren’t armed with guns.

There were three of them and they were armed. That they were not armed with guns isn’t important.

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1199 "2017-03-28T14:43:40Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> There were three of them and they were armed. That they were not armed with guns isn’t important.

Agree. They were wearing masks and gloves, and had (at least) a knife and brass knuckles. And there were three of them. Add all of that up and it doesn’t strike me as unreasonable that a person would be in fear of his life and safety. We don’t know what words were exchanged, which may be important. But I don’t read this and immediately think the shooting was unjustified.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1200 "2017-03-29T12:52:35Z")

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I agree the homeowner did what was necessary to defend himself.

Hopefully the prosecutor will focus on going after the lady who planned the robbery and turned herself in.

> **[Affidavit: Woman arrested for deadly Wagoner County break-in planned the...](https://ktul.com/news/local/woman-arraigned-for-involvement-in-wagoner-county-home-invasion-triple-homicide)**
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> The arraignment for a woman arrested Monday after a home invasion turned deadly was postponed Tuesday while the investigation continues.Elizabeth Marie Rodriguez, 21, was arrested on a probable cause affidavit for three counts of first-degree murder,...

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