# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1201 "2017-04-20T20:53:22Z")
[Intruder To Homeowner: ‘Why Did You Shoot Me?’](http://concealednation.org/2017/04/intruder-to-homeowner-why-did-you-shoot-me/) > [@](#): > > When he saw a woman in the home wearing a headlamp, he confronted her. > > She claimed to be there with her boyfriend and asked the homeowner not to shoot. > > Then things went downhill. > > The man attempted to force her out of the house, and she wrapped a scarf around his neck and attempted to choke him. > > He didn’t really have a choice other than to shoot. > > … > > Her response? > > According to the man, the intruder asked him “Why did you shoot me? It is against the law for you to shoot me.” Why don’t we have a stupid criminals thread? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1202 "2017-04-20T21:28:51Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Why don’t we have a stupid criminals thread? We would need another message board. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1203 "2017-06-06T17:24:52Z")
[How sharpshooter Ayisha Falaq saved brother-in-law from kidnappers](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/06/how-sharpshooter-ayisha-falaq-saved-brother-in-law-from-kidnappers) In the Guardian, no less. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2017, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1204 "2017-06-13T08:11:26Z")
[They Were Having a Sale at the Gun Store](http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/jukes.shtml) AKA The Jukes Boys _Well, that night Billy Jukes went out hunting; he spotted a girl who looked great But when he pulled her into an alley She pulled out a big .38 He thought this was feminine bluffing; “Naw, girl, you can’t shoot me,” he said Well, the very next second she proved he was wrong And Billy Jukes quite lost his head._ ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1205 "2017-06-22T00:35:07Z")
[‘Hero’ stopped mass murder by crazed bar patron who was armed to the teeth, police say](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/arlington/2017/05/03/two-people-killed-third-wounded-arlington-restaurant-shooting-reports-say) > [@](#): > > A concealed carry holder is being heralded as a hero by Arlington police for preventing mass murder by killing an “incoherent” gunman at a sports bar Wednesday evening. The non-existent ‘good guy with a gun’. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1206 "2017-07-10T15:28:59Z")
In other news, [No charges filed against Oklahoma man who shot, killed neighbor trying to drown twins](http://kfor.com/2017/07/06/no-charges-filed-against-oklahoma-man-who-shot-killed-neighbor-trying-to-drown-twins/): > [@](#): > > Last month, Cash Freeman rushed to a neighbor’s home in Ada after a 12-year-old girl ran to his house for help. > > When he arrived at the girl’s home, he reportedly found Leland Foster attempting to drown 3-month-old twins in a bathtub. That’s when Freeman shot and killed Foster. > > … > > “Certainly, from the circumstances confronted that day by Mr. Freeman, who had just come home from lunch, being encountered by a terribly distraught 12 year old complaining that this individual was trying to drown the babies and hurting their mother while armed with a knife, and upon entering the home, encountering the hysterical screams of the mother of the babies being held in the bathroom against her will and desperately trying to save her babies from drowning now being unable to [breathe], one might get the sense that the use of deadly force was necessary to prevent or stop this horrible crime from going any further. Mr. Freeman reported that even after firing two (2) shots, he still considered the decedent to be a threat observing him to [be] armed with the knife and responding to the cries of the mother to help her because she felt the children were going to die, and viewing the decendent’s evil intent expressed in his facial expression, he felt compelled to fire the third shot to attempt to get past this violent man to render aid and prevent the man from getting back up to harm anyone anymore,” a statement from the district attorney’s office read. Neighbor comes to the aid of another preventing imminent death of twin babies. Good work all around from the 12 year old, the neighbor, the police, and the DA. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1207 "2017-07-18T18:15:37Z")
I gut-shot a stinkin’ coyote yesterday. What a great sound that makes! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1208 "2017-07-18T18:45:27Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > [‘Hero’ stopped mass murder by crazed bar patron who was armed to the teeth, police say](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/arlington/2017/05/03/two-people-killed-third-wounded-arlington-restaurant-shooting-reports-say) > The non-existent ‘good guy with a gun’. Dude, he shot and killed the gunman. Hardly non-existent. And as much as you apparently hate the ideh - yeah, a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1209 "2017-07-18T19:01:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Dude, he shot and killed the gunman. Hardly non-existent. > > And as much as you apparently hate the ideh - yeah, a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Deal with it. I think Projammer was being sarcastic with his comment. Gun haters are quick to say that “regular” people with guns are poor shots, will shoot bystanders and never stop criminals. He was being sarcastic by posting their lame argument, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1210 "2017-07-18T19:20:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Dude, he shot and killed the gunman. Hardly non-existent. > > And as much as you apparently hate the ideh - yeah, a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Deal with it. And this sort of judgment is precisely why I wonder how things will work out with a more highly armed society, very poor target recognition, you just winged a team-mate. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1211 "2017-07-27T00:46:18Z")
Umm. Definitely sarcasm [Study Finds Using Guns in Self-Defense is Rare.](https://www.google.com/search?q=guns+not+used+for+self+defense) I could literally post a different story to this thread every day of an incident that shows the bias of these stories. I just choose to limit myself to the out of the ordinary examples to avoid monotony. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1212 "2017-07-27T01:04:12Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Umm. Definitely sarcasm > > [Study Finds Using Guns in Self-Defense is Rare.](https://www.google.com/search?q=guns+not+used+for+self+defense) > > I could literally post a different story to this thread every day of an incident that shows the bias of these stories. I just choose to limit myself to the out of the ordinary examples to avoid monotony. I imagine that the guys who have used them in self defense don’t think of it as rare. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1213 "2017-07-27T09:32:13Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I imagine that the guys who have used them in self defense don’t think of it as rare. > 🙂 Perhaps, but that falls under “the plural of anecdote is not data”. I have no personal information on the prevalence of self-defensive use, but I note the handwaving away of various actual studies (not “stories”) that show it is [not as common](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/) as is claimed. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1214 "2017-07-27T17:22:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Perhaps, but that falls under “the plural of anecdote is not data”. > > I have no personal information on the prevalence of self-defensive use, but I note the handwaving away of various actual studies (not “stories”) that show it is [not as common](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/) as is claimed. Yeesh, only one cite from the last decade and a majority are 15 or 20 years old. Old ones are fine but not when they’re the bulk. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1215 "2017-07-27T17:31:14Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Yeesh, only one cite from the last decade and a majority are 15 or 20 years old. Old ones are fine but not when they’re the bulk. Huh, I wonder why there aren’t more studies on gun issues. It does seem as though if these studies are dated, and should be dismissed for that reason, then new studies should be commissioned. The defensive gun use survey that I see bandied about from time to time isn’t a spring chicken either. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1216 "2017-07-28T10:18:47Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Huh, I wonder why there aren’t more studies on gun issues. It does seem as though if these studies are dated, and should be dismissed for that reason, then new studies should be commissioned. > > The defensive gun use survey that I see bandied about from time to time isn’t a spring chicken either. Gosh, it’s almost as if there’s a [deliberate and organized effort to suppress research into gun violence.](http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/286847-gop-blocks-dem-attempts-to-allow-federal-gun-research) ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1217 "2017-07-28T11:11:43Z")
Why bother spending money on research when the CDC leadership has already decided what the results will be? [Cite](http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/261307-why-congress-stopped-gun-control-activism-at-the-cdc) > [@](#): > > “We’re going to systematically build a case that owning firearms causes deaths. We’re doing the most we can do, given the political realities.” (P.W. O’Carroll, Acting Section Head of Division of Injury Control, CDC, quoted in Marsha F. Goldsmith, “Epidemiologists Aim at New Target: Health Risk of Handgun Proliferation,” Journal of the American Medical Association vol. 261 no. 5, February 3, 1989, pp. 675-76.) Dr. O’Carroll later said he had been misquoted. > > But his successor Dr. Mark Rosenberg was quoted in the Washington Post as wanting his agency to create a public perception of firearms as “dirty, deadly—and banned.” (William Raspberry, “Sick People With Guns,” Washington Post, October 19, 1994. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1218 "2017-07-28T12:38:20Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Why bother spending money on research when the CDC leadership has already decided what the results will be? > > [Cite](http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/261307-why-congress-stopped-gun-control-activism-at-the-cdc) Huh, those quotes are even older than the studies. I assume that those people are still the heads of the CDC, if 23 and 28 year old quotes are to be relevant at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1219 "2017-07-28T13:04:06Z")
Well, in that case we should definitely default to the NRA position of “Guns saves hundreds of thousands of lives a year and are a net benefit because we say so DON’T QUESTION OUR NUMBERS WE’VE GOT GUNS”. Yes, that seems sensible. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1220 "2017-07-28T14:28:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Well, in that case we should definitely default to the NRA position of “Guns saves hundreds of thousands of lives a year and are a net benefit because we say so DON’T QUESTION OUR NUMBERS WE’VE GOT GUNS”. > > Yes, that seems sensible. Ha ha ha…oh my, is that a humorous distortion of their actual policy! I like you. You’re funny! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=62)