# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 66
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1301 "2018-05-01T13:13:10Z")
In other news, [Man shoots, kills carjacker at Texas Fried Chicken](https://www.wftv.com/news/local/man-shoots-kills-carjacker-at-texas-fried-chicken-deputies-say/736306699): > [@](#): > > The attempted carjacking victim has been identified as Leon Anthony Ducally. He told deputies Goodman tried to carjack and assault him as he was trying to enter the Texas Fried Chicken at the intersection. > > Goodman continued to assault Ducally, so he shot his accused attacker, deputies said. > > Ducally has a valid concealed carry permit DGU with one death. Guy can’t even get some fried chicken in the middle of the night. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1302 "2018-05-01T15:45:22Z")
Another shooting death to celebrate! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1303 "2018-05-01T15:46:35Z")
Yay! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1304 "2018-05-01T16:01:33Z")
All you have to do is declare somebody to be a Bad Guy, and then killing him is not only justified and necessary but actually Positive Gun News. That’s how it works, right? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1305 "2018-05-01T16:35:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > All you have to do is declare somebody to be a Bad Guy, and then killing him is not only justified and necessary but actually Positive Gun News. > > That’s how it works, right? The guy had his car jacked and was being beaten. Are you suggesting he should have taken further beating instead of defending himself? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1306 "2018-05-01T16:37:32Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > I know you guys think you have a couple of “gotchas”, but you don’t. When the secret service secures an area, they take control and watch everything that is going on. They also have their own weapons and are ready to use them. Same with courthouses, where armed security is present. Apparently, armed security being present is not enough to comfort everyone. [https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/some-butler-county-leaders-want-option-to-carry-guns-at-council-meetings](https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/some-butler-county-leaders-want-option-to-carry-guns-at-council-meetings) ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1307 "2018-05-01T16:45:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Apparently, armed security being present is not enough to comfort everyone. > > [https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/some-butler-county-leaders-want-option-to-carry-guns-at-council-meetings](https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/some-butler-county-leaders-want-option-to-carry-guns-at-council-meetings) You don’t recall that “armed security” decided to stay outside during the Parkland school shooting while innocent kids in a “gun free zone” were slaughtered? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1308 "2018-05-01T16:49:24Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > The guy had his car jacked and was being beaten. Are you suggesting he should have taken further beating instead of defending himself? My objection is to a person rationalizing, even praising, the killing of another human being by declaring him to be a Bad Guy. One man in that incident committed assault and theft, but the other committed homicide. Tell us who is the Bad Guy \*and why. \* Better yet, tell us how to define Positive vs. Negative Gun News in an objective, non-post-facto way. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1309 "2018-05-01T17:54:06Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > You don’t recall that “armed security” decided to stay outside during the Parkland school shooting while innocent kids in a “gun free zone” were slaughtered? :dubious: You were the one that bought up courthouses. > [@](#): > > Same with courthouses, where armed security is present. And in any case, at the meetings, there is at least one armed officer, usually more, standing there. They don’t need to enter, you don’t need to worry about them staying outside. They are standing right there. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > My objection is to a person rationalizing, even praising, the killing of another human being by declaring him to be a Bad Guy. One man in that incident committed assault and theft, but the other committed homicide. Tell us who is the Bad Guy \*and why. \* > > Better yet, tell us how to define Positive vs. Negative Gun News in an objective, non-post-facto way. It’s easy, the guy who is left standing gets to tell his side of the story. The dead guy doesn’t. So, obviously, the guy left standing was the good guy. We also don’t know that this wasn’t some guy that approached the car, asking for change, and got shot for scaring the driver. We only have the driver’s story, as he remembers and tells it. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1310 "2018-05-01T17:58:46Z")
I brought up courthouses because at least they make an effort to have some amount of armed security. Unlike most schools. But even if a courthouse or school has some security, that doesn’t necessarily mean it is enough or effective everywhere in the building on the property. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1311 "2018-05-01T22:23:12Z")
Everyone continuing this hijack go back and see previous mod instructions. I don’t have the time now but I’ll later go back and see if any warnings are needed for not following moderator instructions. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1312 "2018-05-02T15:52:19Z")
In other news, [Women armed with gun, camera confront would-be burglar at residence](https://villages-news.com/summerfield-man-arrested-after-break-in-at-belleview-home/) > [@](#): > > According to the report, the female homeowner saw that a window was broken when she arrived at her home in the 3400 block of SE 115th Street in Belleview. She called her sister, who arrived with a firearm for protection, the report states. > The women then ordered Stone to come out of the house and took photos of him, the report says. Stone told the women that he had chased someone into the house who had stolen his dirt bike, then grabbed his bookbag and ran into a nearby woods. DGU with no injuries. Given the changing and implausible stories offered by the perpetrator, I’m going to hazard a guess that alcohol or other controlled substances were involved. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1313 "2018-05-02T16:02:10Z")
Serious question, how is this defensive gun use? ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1314 "2018-05-02T16:05:04Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Serious question, how is this defensive gun use? Conjecture, of course, but the intruder might not have been so cooperative in following orders to come out of the house, nor running away, if the women didn’t have a gun. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1315 "2018-05-02T16:42:56Z")
When was the 911 call placed? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1316 "2018-05-02T17:28:25Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > Conjecture, of course, but the intruder might not have been so cooperative in following orders to come out of the house, nor running away, if the women didn’t have a gun. Sure, but ordering someone to do something at gun point seems more like Offensive Gun Use. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1317 "2018-05-02T17:39:17Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Sure, but ordering someone to do something at gun point seems more like Offensive Gun Use. Perhaps from the standpoint of someone who broke a window and went into someone else’s house. Is that the side you want to be on? > [@](#): > > ElvisL1ves When was the 911 call placed? Well, they did at some point, because the Sheriff’s department found him. I don’t know anything about where this happened, but there are LOTS of places in the US where it will take a long time for police to respond to a call. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1318 "2018-05-02T17:44:05Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > Perhaps from the standpoint of someone who broke a window and went into someone else’s house. Is that the side you want to be on? Not really. But the woman wasn’t in the house to defend herself against the intruder. She didn’t need defending against anything, since she wasn’t even home when the guy broke in. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1319 "2018-05-02T17:45:06Z")
The Villages is a sprawling high-income retirement community, much of which bans residents under 55, but all of which has a strongly conservative atmosphere. Any delay in getting to the scene would be caused by the cops having to maneuver around all the golf carts driven by hard-of-hearing residents. But it does look like this woman called her \*sister \*to come with \*her \*gun before she called the \*sheriff \*to come with _his_, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1320 "2018-05-08T01:41:07Z")
[70-Year-Old Woman Shoots Burglar During Home Invasion](http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/05/05/70-year-old-woman-shoots-burglar-home-invasion/) > [@](#): > > Around 4:30 a.m. she heard someone, who turned out to be a 43-year-old man, breaking in her back window. > > “Next thing I know I could tell he was inside my house and he was running up the steps,” says Maxine Thompson. > > … > > She’s got bullet holes and blood in her home –but her attacker made out worse. When seconds count, police are minutes away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=65) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=67)