# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1361 "2018-05-29T16:15:57Z")

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From the _Washington Post_, [“An attacker in a terrifying mask fatally shot after jumping a Little Caesars employee”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/29/an-attacker-in-a-terrifying-mask-jumped-a-little-caesars-employee-after-closing-the-assault-ended-in-gunshots/?utm_term=.815ffcff75ce). In Holly Hill, Florida, a man in some kind of Nosferatu-mask reportedly jumped Heriberto Feliciano, an employee at a Little Caesars restaurant who was locking up for the night; beat Mr. Feliciano with a board (until the board broke), then tried to stab him with a pair of scissors. Mr. Feliciano, who has a concealed carry permit, drew his gun and shot the assailant multiple times, fatally wounding him. Mr. Feliciano suffered some “injuries to his face and shoulders” and is reportedly also (understandably) pretty emotionally traumatized by the whole thing. The local police have indicated that the shooting appears to have been justified.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1362 "2018-05-29T17:03:18Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> From the _Washington Post_, [“An attacker in a terrifying mask fatally shot after jumping a Little Caesars employee”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/29/an-attacker-in-a-terrifying-mask-jumped-a-little-caesars-employee-after-closing-the-assault-ended-in-gunshots/?utm_term=.815ffcff75ce).

\<post doorhinged\>

Anyone else wonder about that mask being described as a “clown mask”? I mean, I hate clowns as much as the next guy, but that mask does not look “clowny” to me.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1363 "2018-05-29T17:39:41Z")

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Never mind the clown mask - I was hoping he was wearing big floppy shoes and jumped out of a little car.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1364 "2018-05-29T17:52:32Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> Bringing us back on topic. In other news, [Homeowner shoots burglary suspect inside Lake Worth house](https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/lake-worth/homeowner-shoots-burglary-suspect-inside-lake-worth-house):  
> DGU with no deaths. I’d not recommend giving chase outside the home, but these are tactical decisions. The intruder appears to have claimed he went to the wrong house. Indeed.

Is it actually just a tactical decision, or is it a legal decision to continue to pursue an attack against someone who is in retreat?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1365 "2018-05-29T18:06:29Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Is it actually just a tactical decision, or is it a legal decision to continue to pursue an attack against someone who is in retreat?

If you don’t chase the person down, they might get away before you are able to kill them.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1366 "2018-05-29T18:23:47Z")

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And if you don’t kill them, they can testify against you.

“Tactical decisions” are best left to the cops who are trained to make and implement them, not to self-styled vigilantes - er, 'scuse me, The Good Guys.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1367 "2018-05-29T19:07:23Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> If you don’t chase the person down, they might get away before you are able to kill them.

This, and many other of these type of comments seem out of place in this thread, to me. As a result, no response from me here.

Continuing with the nature of the thread, and my habit of including a new item every time I reply, in other news, [Joelton gas station clerk fights back, shoots robbery suspect](http://www.wsmv.com/story/38167501/joelton-gas-station-clerk-fights-back-shoots-robbery-suspect):

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> According to police, 58-year-old Zane Friend was outside taking a break when the armed men reportedly started running at him.
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> Friend was armed with a pistol. He told police one of the suspects pointed a gun at him, so he shot the suspect in the stomach.
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> The two other suspects reportedly ditched their friend who had just been shot.
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> According to police, Friend then ran inside, grabbed towels and tried to help the man who had just tried to rob him. Friend said he performed CPR on the suspect and called 911.

DGU with no deaths. 3vs1 and the 1 prevailed, and even attempted to render aid to the injured attacker. I’d also recommend against the attempt to render aid - no idea if the injured attacker is being genuine - again a tactical choice in the heat of the moment.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1368 "2018-05-29T19:28:44Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> This, and many other of these type of comments seem out of place in this thread, to me. As a result, no response from me here.

They only seem out of place to someone who thinks chasing a guy down to shoot him again is a “tactical decision” instead of a “bad idea”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1369 "2018-05-29T20:17:32Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> DGU with no deaths. 3vs1 and the 1 prevailed, and even attempted to render aid to the injured attacker.

We even have the shooter’s own word that the robber pointed a gun at him. That’s certainly good enough, right?

> [@](#):
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> I’d also recommend against the attempt to render aid

Seriously? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1370 "2018-05-29T20:24:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Seriously? :dubious:

If the bad guy threatened the good guy, and being helped by the good guy means going to prison, the bad guy might rethreaten the good guy.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1371 "2018-05-29T20:32:24Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Seriously? :dubious:

If you render aid, the guy might live to testify against you. Plus, you wouldn’t be able to say you killed a guy.

lose/lose really.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1372 "2018-05-29T20:42:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> We even have the shooter’s own word that the robber pointed a gun at him. That’s certainly good enough, right?

Well, that, and

> [@](#):
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> Police said Gonzales had a shotgun with him that was reported stolen in Clarksville.

Of course we don’t know for certain - maybe this felon in possession of a stolen firearm was collecting for the United Way. It was probably all just a misunderstanding!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1373 "2018-05-29T23:57:52Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> They only seem out of place to someone who thinks chasing a guy down to shoot him again is a “tactical decision” instead of a “bad idea”

If you’re infatuated with living out the fantasy world of “making tactical decisions”, go join a laser tag league, or maybe play Call of Duty. Real life involves real lives and real consequences.

> [@Bone](#):
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> This, and many other of these type of comments seem out of place in this thread, to me. As a result, no response from me here.

How are you defining “out of place”? Comments that challenge your worldview, perhaps? Refusing to respond says all it needs to say, though.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1374 "2018-05-30T19:40:14Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> \<post doorhinged\>

Meaning what?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1375 "2018-05-30T21:00:06Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> Meaning what?

**doorhinge** has a habit of deleting the parts of a quote that he is not replying to and putting “[post shortened]” under it like that.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1376 "2018-05-30T22:09:58Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> If you render aid, the guy might live to testify against you. Plus, you wouldn’t be able to say you killed a guy.
> 
> lose/lose really.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> If you’re infatuated with living out the fantasy world of “making tactical decisions”, go join a laser tag league, or maybe play Call of Duty. Real life involves real lives and real consequences.
> 
> How are you defining “out of place”? Comments that challenge your worldview, perhaps? Refusing to respond says all it needs to say, though.

Maybe you should go back and read through some of the many moderator instructions in this thread. If you continue to disregard them you will start getting warnings.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1377 "2018-05-30T23:36:39Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> **doorhinge** has a habit

\<post doorhinged\>

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1378 "2018-05-30T23:52:25Z")

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Apparently the Positive Gun News thread is for the purpose of posting anecdotes and running away, not for actually discussing how or if they’re positive. Seems odd, but there ya go.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1379 "2018-05-31T00:00:58Z")

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In other news, [Madison man identified as alleged intruder fatally shot in Trinity](http://whnt.com/2018/05/13/decatur-man-killed-in-early-morning-burglary-officials-investigating/)

> [@](#):
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> “Decatur police believe Taylor is the sole suspect and acted alone,” according to a DPD statement.
> 
> Officials say that as police responded, multiple shots were fired inside the house and when officers arrived on the scene, they learned that the intruder broke into the back of the home and armed himself with a knife.
> 
> Two residents were injured in the struggle and Taylor was shot and passed away from injuries on the scene according to authorities.  
> …  
> WHNT has learned Taylor was released from jail charged with serious crimes three days before police say he broke into the home. He was arrested on May 9 for kidnapping and domestic violence and released the next day on a $31,500 bond.

Didn’t even bring a knife to a gun fight, had to get one at the house he broke into. DGU with one death. And what with the charges of kidnapping and domestic violence, that bond didn’t seem to work very well.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1380 "2018-05-31T00:15:14Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> \<post doorhinged\>

We’ll be having nun of that.

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