# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1621 "2019-09-07T15:04:22Z")

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The time of day seems to be a factor. Must be terrifying to come home late at night and be confronted by this situation. The suspect is in the hospital and the victim hasn’t been by charged.

I worry what happens next. These teens probably live in the apartment complex. Hudgins may be targeted if she doesn’t move.  
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/04/texas-woman-who-shot-an-alleged-purse-snatcher-says-her-gun-saved-her-life/%3FoutputType=amp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/09/04/texas-woman-who-shot-an-alleged-purse-snatcher-says-her-gun-saved-her-life/%3foutputType=amp)

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> When Lachelle Hudgins pulled into her Houston apartment complex sometime around 2:30 a.m. Tuesday, she realized she was not alone.
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> According to Houston police spokesman Kese Smith, Hudgins told investigators that she was rolling up her windows when she noticed five or six youths between the ages of 15 and 20 standing by a mailbox. Five of them began to approach her vehicle, she said, and they were armed.
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> At first, “I couldn’t do anything except scream,” Hudgins, 28, told ABC 13.
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> But when one man reached through a partially opened car window to grab her purse, Hudgins grabbed her handgun out of her bag and fired two rounds, striking her assailant, police say. Hudgins told police the other men fled, and authorities have not been able to locate them.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1622 "2019-09-07T16:28:20Z")

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Also from last month: an employee shoots and kills an armed robber at a MetroPCS in Philly:

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> A store employee shot and killed a would-be robber in Philadelphia on Monday afternoon.
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> It happened around 4 p.m. at a MetroPCS store located on the 7000 block of Elmwood Avenue.
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> Police say an armed man in his 30s attempted to rob the store when the MetroPCS employee, who has a permit to carry, shot the suspect.
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> Police say the suspect died at the scene. …

[Source](https://6abc.com/robbery-suspect-shot-killed-by-metropcs-employee-in-philly-police/5494315/)

I hope the negative repercussions to the employee’s life are minimal.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1623 "2019-09-07T21:31:14Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Also from last month: an employee shoots and kills an armed robber at a MetroPCS in Philly:
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> [Source](https://6abc.com/robbery-suspect-shot-killed-by-metropcs-employee-in-philly-police/5494315/)
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> I hope the negative repercussions to the employee’s life are minimal.

What are rules of engagement for police officers? Do they shoot at suspects solely for being armed? What would an LEO have done if present? The brief GIF posted in that article does not really show everything that happened.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1624 "2019-09-09T07:59:33Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> What are rules of engagement for police officers? Do they shoot at suspects solely for being armed? What would an LEO have done if present? The brief GIF posted in that article does not really show everything that happened.

I see what you mean. In the GIF the suspect isn’t facing the employee or brandishing a gun so it’s difficult to see an imminent threat, but it’s quite a short clip and lacks the full context.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1625 "2019-09-10T02:03:32Z")

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[From Merced County, California](https://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/local/crime/article234892392.html), a man brandished a knife at a woman during a party; then threatened another man with the knife when the second man came to the woman’s defense. The second man then fatally shot the knife-wielding assailant in what local sheriff’s deputies are referring to as an act of self-defense.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1626 "2019-09-10T17:27:12Z")

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[From Orlando](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-lakeland-fatal-shooting-update-20190906-56maw5juqnfwfpjkfpeyqctqfu-story.html), [Florida](https://www.theledger.com/news/20190907/police-home-break-in-with-knife-led-to-fatal-lakeland-shooting), two women forced their way into a home and began arguing with the residents, a man and a woman. One of the intruders threatened the male resident of the home with a knife; he reportedly attempted to retreat but was prevented from doing so. The female resident of the home fired a “warning shot” (often _NOT_ considered a good idea for a variety of reasons) before opening fire on the two intruders, killing one and wounding the other.

According to the articles police are still investigating, but their initial conclusion is that the shootings were in self-defense.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1627 "2019-09-10T19:34:11Z")

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There may be more to that story. There’s probably a reason the two women forced their way into the home. Maybe a drug deal? Or money owed?

I’m not sure if that changes the self defense claim. It probably doesn’t matter. Threatening someone with a knife does require action from the victims.

It’ll be interesting to see if anything else comes out.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1628 "2019-09-13T23:40:29Z")

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Homeowner holds Captain America at gunpoint. 😉

[https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localmemphis.com/news/local-in-ms/captain-america-arrested-in-clarksdale-ms-sort-of/amp/](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.localmemphis.com/news/local-in-ms/captain-america-arrested-in-clarksdale-ms-sort-of/amp/)

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> The Clarksdale Police Department says 36-year-old David Hobbs was in a Captain America costume when he broke into a shed outside a home in the 1500 block of Lee Drive. Police say the homeowner was alerted by his alarm just after 3:00 a.m. Tuesday, and found Hobbs breaking into the shed.
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> Police say the homeowner held Hobbs at gunpoint until officers arrived. Hobbs was taken into custody and was set to appear in court Tuesday afternoon on a burglary charge.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1629 "2019-09-14T21:51:44Z")

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Does anyone ever picture some of these gun owners paralyzed by indecision one day in a home-defense scenario, standing in front of their vast array of Berettas, Rugers, Kalashnikovs, Sig Sauers, Glocks, Smith&Wessons, Mossbergs, Remingtons and AR-15s, unable to decide which to select to stop the intruder that’s just broken into their house?

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1630 "2019-09-14T23:26:32Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Does anyone ever picture some of these gun owners paralyzed by indecision one day in a home-defense scenario, standing in front of their vast array of Berettas, Rugers, Kalashnikovs, Sig Sauers, Glocks, Smith&Wessons, Mossbergs, Remingtons and AR-15s, unable to decide which to select to stop the intruder that’s just broken into their house?

You do know that “Tremors” wasn’t a documentary, right?

I confess seeing a relative, who’d just jumped into the C&R hobby with both feet, and wondering, 'Why did you want an entire bedroom filled with mil-surp bolt action rifles?"

Why they make both chocolate and vanilla ice cream, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1631 "2019-09-15T00:00:43Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Does anyone ever picture some of these gun owners paralyzed by indecision one day in a home-defense scenario, standing in front of their vast array of Berettas, Rugers, Kalashnikovs, Sig Sauers, Glocks, Smith&Wessons, Mossbergs, Remingtons and AR-15s, unable to decide which to select to stop the intruder that’s just broken into their house?

No.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1632 "2019-09-15T20:14:21Z")

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[From a couple of weeks ago in Youngstown, Ohio](https://www.vindy.com/news/local-news/2019/08/store-owner-fires-on-alleged-robbers/), as many as four people–at least two of whom were armed with firearms–were attempting to rob a store when the store’s owner opened fire in defense of his employees. The two armed robbers were both shot and injured and hospitalized; two other suspected accomplices were able to flee the scene. There were no other injuries reported in the incident.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1633 "2019-09-16T18:21:35Z")

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This is from a couple of months ago, but is interesting in that a person used an AR-15 to defend himself from an attempted armed home invasion.

[From Summerfield, Florida](https://www.ocala.com/news/20190711/summerfield-homeowner-injured-kills-2-intruders-with-ar-15), four men (one nineteen-year-old, the other three in their twenties) forced their way into the mobile home of a 61-year-old man at around 8 p.m. on a weekday; at least two of the men were armed (with a handgun and a shotgun). The homeowner opened fire on the intruders with his AR-15 rifle; the homeowner was shot and injured, while two of the would-be robbers were killed and the other two were subsequently arrested. At least two of the would-be home-invasion robbers had previous criminal records. At the time of the article, police indicated that there were no charges pending against the homeowner and that there was nothing to legally prohibit him from owning firearms.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1634 "2019-09-17T00:37:44Z")

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From early this morning, in Georgia, three teens, at 4:00 am, at least one of them armed with a gun, all shot by the homeowner.

[https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/homeowner-shoots-kills-men-wearing-mask-deputies-say/986744589](https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/homeowner-shoots-kills-men-wearing-mask-deputies-say/986744589)

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> Neighbors say he’s a truck driver who owns a semi-automatic rifle and is highly protective of his mother.

Yeah, I’d say so.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1635 "2019-09-17T00:57:04Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> From early this morning, in Georgia, three teens, at 4:00 am, at least one of them armed with a gun, all shot by the homeowner.
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> [https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/homeowner-shoots-kills-men-wearing-mask-deputies-say/986744589](https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/homeowner-shoots-kills-men-wearing-mask-deputies-say/986744589)
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> Yeah, I’d say so.

[Per other accounts](https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/breaking-shot-killed-rockdale-county-homeowner/cev6nkZvDVdzGBr2U04RzN/), wearing masks, or at least one was, and they shot first. Oops. All killed by the homeowner, not just shot.

Rifles are qualitatively different than handguns, and the homeowner had a rifle.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1636 "2019-09-17T01:33:01Z")

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My favorite line from the (poorly-written) article:

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> The homeowner who shot the masked intruder is a man.

Yes, indeed he is.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1637 "2019-09-17T07:33:07Z")

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CNN is running the story.  
Tragic outcome for the would-be robbers. But that’s the risk they took in going to that home wearing masks and armed.

[https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/georgia-teen-would-be-robbers-shot/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/17/us/georgia-teen-would-be-robbers-shot/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F)

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> The teens approached three residents at the front yard of a home early Monday morning and attempted to rob them, authorities say. One of the would-be robbers took out a gun and fired shots at them, before one of the residents returned fire.  
> “The victims of the attempted robbery were all uninjured, but the three attempted robbery suspects were all shot during the exchange of gunfire and succumbed to their injuries, one on scene and two at a local hospital after being transported,”

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1638 "2019-09-19T19:43:17Z")

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[From earlier this month in Coshocton County, Ohio](https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/man-with-knife-inside-coshocton-mcdonalds-charged/), a 22-year-old man was threatening people with a knife at a McDonald’s restaurant. A 70-year-old man with a Kentucky concealed carry permit drew his handgun and was eventually able to persuade the aggressor to drop the knife. No shots were fired and no one was injured; the man with the knife has been charged with “attempted aggravated robbery”, a felony.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1639 "2019-09-20T21:54:34Z")

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Sometimes it’s just hard to get respect these days. Homeowner confronts burglar and gets ignored. Dumb move. Glad the injury wasn’t serious.

> **[Burglar shot after telling Arkansas man, 'Give me that gun before you hurt...](https://katv.com/news/local/burglar-shot-after-telling-arkansas-man-give-me-that-gun-before-you-hurt-yourself)**
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> An Arkansas man shot a suspected burglar at his home Tuesday after the intruder asked him to hand over the weapon, KATV content partner KAIT Region 8 News reported. A Manila resident told the Mississippi County sheriff's office that he found a man in...

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> When the homeowner again told the man to leave, the intruder replied, “Give me that gun before you hurt yourself, old man.” The homeowner then shot the intruder in the leg.
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> Authorities identified the intruder as Charles Lancaster, 47. He was treated at a hospital in Jonesboro before being arrested on a charge of residential burglary.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1640 "2019-09-23T02:25:03Z")

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The NRA has named Beto O’Rourke as its AR-15 Salesman of the Month.

> **[Beto O'Rourke Named 'AR-15 Salesman of the Year' by NRA](https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-named-ar-15-salesman-year-nra-1460608)**
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> Democratic Presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke has been called "AR-15 salesman of the year" after making incendiary comments earlier this month which vowed government confiscation of the weapons under his proposed administration.

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