# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1701 "2019-12-30T00:00:42Z")

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> [@Orwell](#):
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> This just happened today, so it’s likely that all details are not in. But [Armed churchgoers shoot man who entered church and started shooting people](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/29/texas-church-shooting-gunman-opens-fire-near-fort-worth/2769428001/).
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> From the news article: “A gunman walked in to a North Texas church and opened fire Sunday morning, killing one person and critically wounding another before being fatally shot by parishioners, authorities said.”

That is a rough story. The service was being simulcasted on youtube. An HD link to the broadcast is at liveleak. [SPOILER][ItemFix - Social Video Factory](https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=a7Egb_1577654583%5B/SPOILER%5D)

It appears the gunman was stopped from a larger rampage by either/or concealed weapons license holders/armed church security. The first to get shot, and his wounds look bad, was someone who recognized a danger, but was too slow on the draw to stop it himself. That’s why his right hand looked so awkward, high and behind his hip: he’s trying to draw a pistol. His sacrifice, and that of an usher, did distract the gunman enough that a second armed churchgoer was able to head-shoot the gunman before the gunman was able to accurately shoot at the pastor. The gunman still got a third, unarmed shot off from what I understand is a shotgun.

No doubt the gunman will be found to have multiple prior crimes of violence in his criminal history.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1702 "2019-12-30T00:48:24Z")

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Security teams in a church are recent development. It’s regrettable that they are needed.

Armed parishioners and security made the difference and prevented a mass shooting.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1703 "2019-12-30T02:57:53Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Security teams in a church are recent development. It’s regrettable that they are needed.
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> Armed parishioners and security made the difference and prevented a mass shooting.

The thing is—and I haven’t seen this to confirm it for myself—there were several non church security officers, i.e. ordinary, CHL-holding churchgoers—who drew and were ready to try and stop that piece of shit. I have no idea what the status of the guy who died, or the guy who killed the gunman, was, but there were a lot of good guys with guns there. And absent overwatch, like how the Garland Texas, ‘Draw Mohammed Day’ went, that’s about as good as you can do. I would have like one of the exterior ushers/security to have noticed the gunman was distressed, and asked for reinforcements, but you play the cards you’re dealt.

I’ll toast that fat, older white guy, who got blasted first, in Valhalla should I be fortunate enough to meet him. He saved a bunch of people by (unintentionally) sacrificing himself to the gunman’s first shot.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1704 "2020-01-13T19:24:51Z")

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It seems like robbers are getting bolder and bolder. It’s not enough to rob one guy. Now they think it’s ok to rob a group at a cookout?

Glad a armed guest was there that could respond.

> **[CBS Texas - Breaking Local News, First Alert Weather & I-Team Investigations](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/)**
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> Latest breaking news from CBS11 KTVT-TV | KTXA-TV.

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> Just before midnight Jan. 10, police responded to a shooting call in the 3400 block of Chicago Street, where witnesses stated they were having a cookout in the covered area of the front patio.
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> Witnesses told officers that three male suspects approached the house and that two of the males were armed with handguns — demanding property.
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> One witness, who was only visiting the residence, is a licensed handgun carrier and shot one of the suspects. His identity is unknown at this time but after being interviewed by police, he was released, pending a grand jury referral.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1705 "2020-01-20T01:49:52Z")

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[From last month in Limestone County, Alabama](https://www.enewscourier.com/news/local_news/lcso-woman-ends-car-assault-with-pistol/article_eec905cc-2b59-11ea-8dc6-53628d92ab2f.html), a man and a woman got into an argument at a local home; the woman drove away from the residence but the man pursued the woman in his own car. The man followed the woman onto the interstate, attempting to block her car and even run it off the road. After she exited the interstate and stopped her car the man began beating on the woman’s car, but after the woman pulled a pistol, he fled the scene. The woman drove to a police station and reported the incident, and the man was subsequently arrested and charged with reckless endangerment (and also possession of methamphetamine).

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1706 "2020-01-21T22:16:03Z")

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[From a couple of weeks ago in Tampa, Florida](https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/deputies-1-suspect-dead-another-shot-in-apparent-home-invasion-in-tampa/), two teenagers (at least one of whom was armed) forced their way into a house on a Saturday evening. One of the residents of the home shot both teenagers with his own gun, wounding both, one fatally. Sheriff’s deputies also found two other teenagers in a car at the scene and believe they were also involved in the home invasion.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1707 "2020-01-22T21:32:02Z")

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[From last week in Livingston Parish, Louisiana](https://www.wafb.com/2020/01/12/husband-killed-wife-arrested-after-alleged-home-invasion-livingston-parish/), the rather bizarre story of a husband and wife whose vehicle got stuck in someone else’s yard. The husband then attempted to force his way through the front door of the house, but retreated after being confronted by a resident of the home. The husband then got a shovel and broke out a bathroom window, at which point he was shot and killed by the resident. The wife has been arrested.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1708 "2020-01-24T19:09:22Z")

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[From last week near Lima, Ohio](https://www.hometownstations.com/news/two-suspects-being-sought-for-the-attempted-armed-robbery-of/article_ce0e62c6-37e0-11ea-8b8e-832386b8d50c.html), two men armed with handguns attempted to rob a store, but when they saw the cashier was also armed, they ran away without getting any money. No shots were fired and no one was injured; authorities are seeking the two would-be armed robbers.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1709 "2020-01-25T21:17:53Z")

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[From earlier this week in Danville, Illinois](https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/coroner-identifies-man-killed-in-danville-home-invasion/article_3ba7f9f3-d6c6-5db7-8939-43939328f0f7.html), several people armed with handguns kicked in the door of a home on Sunday evening. The homeowner got his own handgun and fired at the intruders, fatally injuring one of them. The other would-be home invaders fled the scene; so far, no arrests have been made.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1710 "2020-01-28T00:19:14Z")

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[From a couple of weeks ago in Kokomo, Indiana](http://kokomoperspective.com/kp/news/police-resident-shoots-man-who-gained-entry-to-apartment/article_99dfbd28-360b-11ea-840f-ab59e538ae53.html), a man broke into an apartment on a Sunday evening. The intruder was shot and wounded by the resident of the apartment.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1711 "2020-02-02T20:32:24Z")

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[From a few days ago in Cape Coral, Florida](https://www.winknews.com/2020/01/29/lyft-driver-uses-firearm-in-self-defense-after-cape-coral-man-pulls-knife/), the passenger of a rideshare car pulled a knife on the driver. The driver ordered the passenger to get out of the car, and when the passenger did not comply, the driver pulled a gun on the passenger, who then exited the vehicle. The erstwhile passenger was later arrested on a charge of aggravated assault.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1712 "2020-02-07T06:45:12Z")

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Katia Sastre, a off duty cop shoots robber threatening mother’s & their children in front of a school.

I’m guessing the officer was there picking up her kid? She obviously was well trained and prepared. I was impressed by her calmness and professionalism.

> **[Hero mom saves the day, killing gunman outside school](https://nypost.com/video/hero-mom-saves-the-day-killing-gunman-outside-school/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)**
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> A gunman who targeted a group of families gathered for a Mother’s Day celebration at a school in Brazil was fatally shot by an off-duty cop. Katia Sastre was praised by local officials for he…

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1713 "2020-02-10T20:17:34Z")

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[Two officers wounded and gunman killed in a shootout at a WalMart Supercenter in Forrest City, Arkansas.](https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/breaking/2020/02/10/active-shooter-alert-forrest-city-arkansas-walmart-supercenter/4713573002/) No reports of any other injuries.

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**Author:** ![Kovitlac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2bfe46/32.png) [@Kovitlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kovitlac)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1714 "2020-02-10T21:07:08Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> [From last week in Livingston Parish, Louisiana](https://www.wafb.com/2020/01/12/husband-killed-wife-arrested-after-alleged-home-invasion-livingston-parish/), the rather bizarre story of a husband and wife whose vehicle got stuck in someone else’s yard. The husband then attempted to force his way through the front door of the house, but retreated after being confronted by a resident of the home. The husband then got a shovel and broke out a bathroom window, at which point he was shot and killed by the resident. The wife has been arrested.

Meth? God, I dunno. That is crazy.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1715 "2020-02-12T00:03:31Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Katia Sastre, a off duty cop shoots robber threatening mother’s & their children in front of a school.
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> I’m guessing the officer was there picking up her kid? She obviously was well trained and prepared. I was impressed by her calmness and professionalism.
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> [Video: Hero mom saves the day killing gunman outside school | New York Post](https://nypost.com/video/hero-mom-saves-the-day-killing-gunman-outside-school/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons)

Dramatic video — but dated May 2018.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1716 "2020-03-15T17:07:36Z")

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From [about a week ago in Fort Wayne, Indiana](https://www.wfft.com/content/news/Police-Bystander-with-gun-broke-up-Walmart-bat-attack-568650111.html), a masked man started beating someone with a baseball bat in a Walmart parking lot on a Saturday morning. The attacker broke off the attack and left the scene when a witness to the attack drew a gun. The attacker was later arrested, and local police credit the armed witness with keeping a brutal and apparently random attack from being even worse.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1717 "2020-03-16T20:17:25Z")

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[This story from Leesburg, Florida](https://www.villages-news.com/2020/03/15/leesburg-man-jailed-after-customer-at-wawa-holds-him-at-gunpoint-following-attack/) is dated yesterday, but is actually about events which happened a couple of weeks ago. A man in a convenience store punched and kicked another man, injuring the victim seriously enough to leave “a large amount of blood on the floor” and sending the victim to a local hospital, and also physically assaulted at least one other person in the store. Another customer with a concealed carry permit then interrupted the attack by holding the attacker at gunpoint until police arrived. The attacker was arrested, and the armed citizen’s firearm was returned to him by the police (who had temporarily secured it after arriving at the scene).

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1718 "2020-03-17T22:39:59Z")

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[From three days ago in El Cerrito, California](https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/14/el-cerrito-homeowner-fatally-shoots-alleged-home-invasion-suspect/), a man broke into the home of a family (a man, his wife, and their young daughter) a little after 1 a.m. The male occupant of the house armed himself and confronted the intruder while the woman and child sheltered in a bedroom and the woman called police. When the intruder refused to respond to the homeowner, the homeowner shot and fatally wounded the intruder.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1719 "2020-03-18T23:30:45Z")

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[From earlier this month in Tacoma, Washington](https://www-1.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article240815906.html#), a man grabbed a woman as she was walking home and started choking her. A neighbor armed with a gun confronted the attacker, who then broke off the attack. The assailant (who seems to have been having some kind of mental breakdown) was then arrested by the police and charged with assault.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1720 "2020-03-19T00:50:33Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> [From three days ago in El Cerrito, California](https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/03/14/el-cerrito-homeowner-fatally-shoots-alleged-home-invasion-suspect/), a man broke into the home of a family (a man, his wife, and their young daughter) a little after 1 a.m. The male occupant of the house armed himself and confronted the intruder while the woman and child sheltered in a bedroom and the woman called police. When the intruder refused to respond to the homeowner, the homeowner shot and fatally wounded the intruder.

I’m terribly sorry but I don’t understand how this is positive.

the intruder was “failing to respond” - not beating, raping, throwing around the room or anything else.

How is it good that he is now dead and the homeowner has to live with killing someone?

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