# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 87
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1721 "2020-03-19T00:55:02Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > [Two officers wounded and gunman killed in a shootout at a WalMart Supercenter in Forrest City, Arkansas.](https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/breaking/2020/02/10/active-shooter-alert-forrest-city-arkansas-walmart-supercenter/4713573002/) No reports of any other injuries. Why is it that about 90% of the stories you are espousing as “good” involve a dead gunman who should never have had access to a handgun in the first place? A great proportion of your “positive” stories read to me much more like arguments for better background checks, stricter regulations on concealed carry and stronger community support for mental rather than “yay - let’s be happy about the good guy with a gun” ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1722 "2020-03-19T00:57:04Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > [From earlier this week in Danville, Illinois](https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/coroner-identifies-man-killed-in-danville-home-invasion/article_3ba7f9f3-d6c6-5db7-8939-43939328f0f7.html), several people armed with handguns kicked in the door of a home on Sunday evening. The homeowner got his own handgun and fired at the intruders, fatally injuring one of them. The other would-be home invaders fled the scene; so far, no arrests have been made. “Armed with handguns” = poor gun control ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1723 "2020-03-19T00:58:16Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > [From a couple of weeks ago in Tampa, Florida](https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/deputies-1-suspect-dead-another-shot-in-apparent-home-invasion-in-tampa/), two teenagers (at least one of whom was armed) forced their way into a house on a Saturday evening. One of the residents of the home shot both teenagers with his own gun, wounding both, one fatally. Sheriff’s deputies also found two other teenagers in a car at the scene and believe they were also involved in the home invasion. Teenagers with guns - where’d the guns come from? Man - lucky thing that guns are so easy to get so that the home owner could protect himself against guns ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1724 "2020-03-19T01:04:44Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I’m terribly sorry but I don’t understand how this is positive. > > the intruder was “failing to respond” - not beating, raping, throwing around the room or anything else. > > How is it good that he is now dead and the homeowner has to live with killing someone? A man broke into a house (not a business) in the wee hours of the morning on a Saturday (when a reasonable person–or even an _un_reasonable person–might expect the people who lived there to be home). There was a family, including a young child, in the house. The man who lived in the house had a gun, and he “shouted” for the invader to leave. When I said the attacker “refused to respond”, what I mean was, he didn’t say “Oh, there’s someone _living_ here! And they have a gun! I think I shall go somewhere else now!”. (Or even just leave, without saying anything.) The attacker continued attacking; he continued trying to break into a house, in the middle of the night, where a family was living, and where he _knew_ the residents were home. What did he want to do? _Maybe_ nothing _too_ awful would have happened–or maybe the intruder wanted to do something unspeakably horrible. The people who live in that house didn’t have to find out the hard way which it was. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1725 "2020-03-19T01:06:46Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I’m terribly sorry but I don’t understand how this is positive. > > the intruder was “failing to respond” - not beating, raping, throwing around the room or anything else. > > How is it good that he is now dead and the homeowner has to live with killing someone? Some consider getting to shoot someone legally as a positive. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1726 "2020-03-23T20:21:19Z")
[From last week in Amarillo, Texas](https://www.newschannel10.com/2020/03/17/amarillo-police-auto-burglary-suspect-caught-act-held-gunpoint-officers/) a man was arrested after being caught breaking into a car in the early hours of the morning; the victim of the attempted theft caught the man in the act and held the perpetrator at gunpoint until police arrived. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1727 "2020-03-25T21:33:03Z")
[From earlier this month](https://wkow.com/2020/03/05/sheriff-identifies-alleged-juneau-county-intruder-shot-by-homeowner/) [in Kingston, Wisconsin](https://www.wiscnews.com/juneaucountystartimes/news/local/intruder-shot-by-homeowner-medically-cleared-charged-with-three-felonies/article_eb3ad608-b9df-51f7-b9c9-369a9316e927.html), a man (who had reportedly been using methamphetamine) broke into a house in the early hours of a weekday morning. When the homeowner confronted the man, the intruder left, but soon returned with a knife and attempted to force his way back into the home while threatening to kill the occupants of the house. The homeowner then shot the intruder with a handgun. The knife-wielding home invader was charged with multiple felonies after being released from the hospital. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1728 "2020-03-26T22:45:12Z")
[From last month in Oklahoma City](https://www.koco.com/article/he-camped-out-overnight-odd-noises-turn-out-to-be-stranger-inside-oklahoma-city-mans-attic/31140640), a man initially suspected a squirrel had gotten into his attic, but then decided that whatever it was seemed to be bigger than that–maybe a raccoon or an opossum–so the homeowner took a rifle with him when he went to investigate. It turned out that a man had gotten into his attic and was “camped out” there on a mattress. The homeowner held the attic burglar at gunpoint until police arrived. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1729 "2020-03-29T22:17:18Z")
[Woman Shot Dead After Opening Fire at Others](https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/tpd-officers-investigating-homicide-in-north-tulsa) > [@](#): > > Police say video showed the woman involved in an earlier altercation in the parking lot of the business because of parking. > > She left and then returned shortly after, firing at people standing outside the business, police said. The man with a concealed carry permit returned fire, shooting and killing the woman. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1730 "2020-03-30T16:20:11Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Why is it that about 90% of the stories you are espousing as “good” involve a dead gunman who should never have had access to a handgun in the first place? > > A great proportion of your “positive” stories read to me much more like arguments for better background checks, stricter regulations on concealed carry and stronger community support for mental rather than “yay - let’s be happy about the good guy with a gun” Now, now, now, this thread is for 2nd Amendment misinterpreters to have their fun. That’s why it’s in MPSIMS instead of GD, where they’d be forced to defend themselves. It’s one thread, mostly used by a handful of posters. And I can sorta see their point. America still has a Wild West feel and, good guys and bad, some people like that. I don’t have the statistics at hand comparing the good guy with a gun incidents with the gun accidents because someone, a child or a moron with his nine stuck in his pants, had no business near a gun, but I don’t think some people care. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1731 "2020-03-30T17:33:31Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I don’t have the statistics at hand comparing the good guy with a gun incidents with the gun accidents because someone, a child or a moron with his nine stuck in his pants, had no business near a gun, but I don’t think some people care. Statistics on “defensive gun uses” are all over the place. You can find estimates [as low as 60,000+ a year](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1615397/), or [as high as over 1 million a year](https://reason.com/2018/09/04/what-the-cdcs-mid-90s-surveys-on-defensi/). (“Defensive gun use” doesn’t necessarily mean someone was shot, let alone killed, as many of the anecdotal stories in this thread show.) Accidental gun deaths (not deliberate suicides, and not deliberate homicides–murder or non-negligent manslaughter) run to [fewer than 500 a year, down significantly (from over 800 a year) from 20 years ago](https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/guns/). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1732 "2020-04-16T19:08:36Z")
Three men attempt home invasion. Ring Camera captures them approaching and kicking in the door. Homeowner shot one of them and the Ring Camera captures their hasty exit. I’m impressed with clarity of the video. It’s a good resource for the police. > **[Video: Neptune Beach resident shoots at 3 armed robbers, police say](https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/04/15/video-neptune-beach-resident-shoots-at-3-armed-robbers-police-say/)** > > The tables were turned on three armed robbers during a frightening break-in at a Neptune Beach apartment, as the person inside shot at the intruders, according to police. > **[Man opens fire on three armed robbers after they break into his home](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8225949/Shocking-moment-homeowner-opens-fire-three-armed-robbers-break-Florida-home.html)** > > One suspect was shot in the chest and two more are on the run after they broke into an apartment in Neptune Beach, Florida, and were shot at by the homeowner > [@](#): > > Neptune Beach police confirmed one man was shot in the chest and is at a hospital while the other two are still on the run. > > In the video, three young men can be seen walking up the stairs to a second floor balcony. One uses his body to push in the door, while another puts on gloves. They are inside for roughly eight seconds when at least five gunshots can be heard. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1733 "2020-04-16T20:17:35Z")
Home security is a good thing to have, but Ring is a good resource for the police because they’ve been in a [very controversial relationship with police departments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Inc.#Police_partnerships) and have a poor security record. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1734 "2020-05-15T00:01:43Z")
From [an incident that happened two days ago in Buffalo, South Carolina](https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/sheriff-no-charges-will-be-filed-after-man-who-broke-into-home-and-fired-shots/article_f21e7f70-942e-11ea-8a7b-73dff3f4e771.html): There will be no charges filed against a man who shot and killed an armed home invader. The man who was killed broke into the house of a woman and her two young children and opened fire. The man who broke into the house had outstanding warrants for domestic violence crimes (from an incident that apparently happened just a few days ago); according to the sheriff, the man who killed him “had been invited to the house and had the right to be in the home and what he did was in self-defense”. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1735 "2020-05-15T06:41:52Z")
Similar case in Scottsdale Arizona. Homeowner confronted and chased off the trespasser at 9 pm. He called police and they investigated. Almost 2 hours later homeowner finds the same guy (now naked) inside his home and in a child’s bedroom. This guy was certainly determined to get in that house. He won’t be a threat to other families. I looked at the address (92nd Street and Pinnacle Peak Road), on Google maps. It looks like a new sub division with nice homes. Not a neighborhood where you’d expect a crime like this. It’s fortunate that the homeowner had a gun readily available. > **[Naked teenage burglary suspect fatally shot by Scottsdale homeowner after...](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/scottsdale-breaking/2020/05/14/naked-teenage-burglary-suspect-fatally-shot-scottsdale-homeowner/5193252002/)** > > The homeowner fatally shot the teenager, who was in his child's room wielding a large piece of wood in a "threatening" manner. > [@](#): > > Investigators discovered that the home was occupied by a 41-year-old man, his wife and three children. The man reported that while working in an outbuilding on the property, the family dog alerted the homeowner to activity inside the home, Watts said. > > When the man entered one child’s room, he discovered the naked man holding a large piece of wood in a “threatening manner.” The young man then “charged the resident,” Watts said. > > The homeowner fired two shots, killing the intruder. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1736 "2020-05-15T10:46:28Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > I’m terribly sorry but I don’t understand how this is positive. > > the intruder was “failing to respond” - not beating, raping, throwing around the room or anything else. > > How is it good that he is now dead and the homeowner has to live with killing someone? The man broke into someone’s home while it was occupied. This isn’t a simple trespass, it is a home invasion. Should the homeowner have waited for the beating or raping to start before defending himself? Is that your objection to the story? That there was no beating, raping or trashing _yet_? What intentions do you supposed the home invader had? No person should be forced to endure a home invasion. What would have been a “positive” story in your world? Would you have preferred the homeowner cowers in the corner while the invaders have their way with house, property and family members? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1737 "2020-05-17T01:44:41Z")
[From earlier this week in Corpus Christi, Texas](https://www.kiiitv.com/article/news/suspected-burglar-shot-killed-by-resident-on-north-beach-two-others-arrested/503-7b724a02-d107-482b-a71b-e38d6320c0b1), a man and woman broke into a house just before 1 a.m. A resident of the house heard the commotion and shot and fatally wounded the man. The woman who had broken into the house along with him was later arrested; a second woman, who had remained in the car during the home invasion, was arrested on an outstanding warrant for drug charges. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1738 "2020-05-27T18:15:03Z")
This is the reason why I have guns at home. Home invasions are terrifying. Especially with assailants high on drugs. They can be hyper aggressive. This follow up story is very interesting. Police found 4 people and children with LSD, cocaine, THC resin and some unknown substances believed to be hallucinogens. Police also found a gun at Nathan Jerrell Edward’s rental home. > **[Four arrests made in Panama City home invasion investigation](https://www.nwfdailynews.com/picture-gallery/news/2020/05/27/four-arrests-made-in-panama-city-home-invasion-investigation/42024933/)** > > Four arrests made in Panama City home invasion investigation > **[Florida homeowner fatally shot man who smashed through door](https://apnews.com/general-news-f5ebe1d11f76fd8ef22a04605db3bcfa)** > > Officials say a Florida homeowner fatally shot a Georgia man who broke through his glass front door and attacked a woman inside. > [@](#): > > Deputies said Edwards then smashed through the glass front door and began beating a woman inside. The homeowner, who is in his 70s, went upstairs and got his gun, firing several shots at Edwards. The woman was taken to a hospital for treatment. > > Authorities learned Edwards had been staying at a rental home with friends nearby, according to a separate post. Investigators found illegal drugs, a gun and money, as well as children. Each adult inside the home was arrested and charged with child neglect and other charges. He said the man threatened him, so he retreated inside his house to get away. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1739 "2020-05-31T13:01:59Z")
[From a week ago in Eureka, California](https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/24/confrontation-over-noise-ends-with-self-defense-killing-in-eureka/), a group of people were making noise in a residential neighborhood at 2:30 in the morning. A resident of one of the houses went on his porch and told the noisemakers to leave the area. Instead, they became belligerent and entered the man’s property. The resident sprayed the attackers with pepper spray as he retreated into his house; at least one of the attackers followed the man into the house, and the resident shot and killed him with a handgun, also wounding one of the other attackers who was still on the house’s porch. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1740 "2020-05-31T21:06:30Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > [From a week ago in Eureka, California](https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/24/confrontation-over-noise-ends-with-self-defense-killing-in-eureka/), a group of people were making noise in a residential neighborhood at 2:30 in the morning. A resident of one of the houses went on his porch and told the noisemakers to leave the area. Instead, they became belligerent and entered the man’s property. The resident sprayed the attackers with pepper spray as he retreated into his house; at least one of the attackers followed the man into the house, and the resident shot and killed him with a handgun, also wounding one of the other attackers who was still on the house’s porch. Your post is getting quite a bit of attention over in the [Stupid gun news](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22330431#post22330431) thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=86) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=88)