# Positive Gun News of the Day

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1901 "2021-07-07T11:40:23Z")

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Home invasion stopped by armed homeowner.

I see home invasions reported in my local news at least once every couple months. Criminals just kick in the door and don’t care that a family is at home.

No names provided. Makes it hard to look for news updates. Suspect was armed and it doesn’t sound like there will be any charges.

> **[Fairfield home invasion suspect killed by homeowner](https://fox40.com/news/local-news/cordelia-home-invasion-suspect-killed-by-homeowner-councilmember-says/)**
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> A suspected home intruder was shot and killed Tuesday morning in the community of Cordelia, according to Fairfield City Councilmember Catherine Moy.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1902 "2021-07-08T23:57:33Z")

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[From Tuesday in Oklahoma City](https://www.news9.com/story/60e520903123f90bd83a0d4d/ocpd:-okc-dispensary-owner-shoots-armed-robbery-suspect-), a man armed with knives attacked a marijuana dispensary (Oklahoma now has legal marijuana for medical use, although not general legalization) smashing display cases and threatening the employees, in an apparent robbery attempt. The owner of the dispensary then drew a handgun and shot and seriously wounded the attacker.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1903 "2021-07-10T11:50:18Z")

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[From Thursday in Battle Ground, Washington](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/intruder-shot-at-home-near-battleground/283-6059697c-25bf-40b0-b28c-815bd478b2fa), a man got past a locked driveway gate and attempted to force his way into a house. The homeowner, who had a handgun, attempted to calm the intruder while the other residents of the house retreated to a back room and called 911. The intruder threatened the homeowner’s wife, then attacked him, after which the homeowner shot and killed the intruder.

It’s interesting to note that “several minutes” passed after the occupants of the house called police—long enough for the armed homeowner to apparently have at least some sort of conversation with the man attempting to break in—but police still did not arrive in time to prevent the intruder from attacking the homeowner.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1904 "2021-07-11T20:01:20Z")

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[From yesterday in Oakley, California](https://www.thepress.net/news/oakley/oakley-resident-shoots-and-kills-alleged-home-intruder-saturday-morning/article_7c7ad7dc-e1c1-11eb-84bf-a71e69958bb2.html), a man forced his way into a home after midnight. The occupant of the home then shot and killed the intruder. According to the article, the attacker “was known to the occupants and had a history of violence”, so possibly some kind of domestic violence?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1905 "2021-07-12T22:35:20Z")

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[From Saturday in Dallas, Texas](https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/dallas-police-say-man-shot-killed-27-year-old-joshua-moore-in-self-defense/287-2333e37f-b073-4383-836d-8012c618d8cf), two men were arguing when one of the men pulled a knife and attempted to stab the other man. The second man then shot and killed the man with the knife, in what police describe as self-defense.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1906 "2021-08-22T17:17:29Z")

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Phoenix homeowner defends home against 4 men. They had just forced open the front door.

No injuries reported. Scary video. The homeowner was alerted by his security system. I can’t imagine continuing to live there knowing these men probably live close by.

> **[Phoenix homeowner fires multiple shots at four armed robbers, home security...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/phoenix-homeowner-fires-multiple-shots-at-four-armed-robbers-home-security-footage-shows)**
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> A Phoenix man's home security footage captured the moment that four armed suspects kicked down his door, only to be met by a barrage of gunfire that sent them scattering, the Phoenix Police Department said.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1907 "2021-09-03T04:25:11Z")

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[From a week ago in Decatur, Illinois](https://herald-review.com/news/local/public_safety/armed-decatur-homeowner-captures-burglary-and-hit-and-run-suspect-at-gunpoint/article_da4d6942-e960-526f-b530-21e370166f96.html), a man burglarized a local business, then stole a pickup truck. While driving the stolen truck, the man hit another vehicle, seriously injuring the other driver. The thief (and hit-and-run driver) then fled the scene of the crash on foot and tried to force his way into a house, but the homeowner held the man at gunpoint until police arrived and arrested him.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1908 "2021-10-21T01:42:11Z")

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[Bond set at $250,000 for suspect shot by officer at Zapata’s restaurant](https://txktoday.com/courts/bond-set-at-250000-for-suspect-shot-by-officer-at-zapatas-restaurant)

> Jayden Sledge, 20, was allegedly seen breaking into an SUV parked outside Hopkins Icehouse bar and restaurant the evening of Oct. 13, according to a probable cause document. Sledge allegedly pointed a handgun at and threatened to kill the husband of the vehicle’s owner. A customer at Hopkins notified an off-duty Texarkana, Arkansas, Police Department officer who was in the business celebrating the birthday of a family member.
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> Two off-duty officers chased Sledge as he ran across the street into Zapata’s restaurant on Walnut Street. When approached by an officer in the restaurant, Sledge allegedly pointed a handgun at the officer and fled to a back storage area.

Why is this in “positive gun news” and not generic “idiot points gun at officer and gets shot for his trouble”?

> The officer asked customers in the restaurant if any of them had a handgun and borrowed a weapon from one of them before approaching Sledge in the storage area of the restaurant.

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**Author:** ![QMatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/aeb1de/32.png) [@QMatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QMatic)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1909 "2022-04-25T19:10:04Z")

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No need for a good guy with a gun when the bad guys don’t have them either:

> **[No London shooting deaths in six months as police say gun trade stifled](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/25/no-london-shooting-deaths-in-six-months-as-police-stifle-gun-trade)**
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> Met says drug gangs in capital finding it difficult to source and move around firearms

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1910 "2022-04-25T20:23:22Z")

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Never mind

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1911 "2022-04-26T17:17:46Z")

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**Moderator Note**

> [@QMatic](#):
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> No need for a good guy with a gun when the bad guys don’t have them either:

This thread is specifically for “positive gun news” from a pro-gun point of view.

If you are pro gun-control, the “positive news” thread from your point of view is here:

> [@Positive Gun Control News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-control-news/839691):
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> From [CNBC:](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/03/walmart-plans-to-dramatically-step-back-from-gun-sales-after-horrific-shootings.html) Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

Please post appropriately. Both of these threads are focused topics from a specific point of view. Posting opposing viewpoints in either thread is considered off topic and/or threadshitting.

The overall gun control debate is beyond the scope of either thread. If you want to debate gun control, please do so in one of the existing gun control debate threads in Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1912 "2022-05-02T06:27:10Z")

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Woman alone with her 3 kids shoots intruder. Roman Rodriguez 41 had entered through a laundry room window.

A potential rape or possibily multiple murders was prevented by the homeowner.

> **[Man fatally shot by woman during home invasion on Southeast Side identified](https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/01/man-fatally-shot-by-woman-during-home-invasion-on-southeast-side-identified/)**
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> A man who was fatally shot by a woman while breaking into her Southeast Side home late last week has been identified.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1913 "2022-05-02T07:33:00Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> A potential rape or possibily multiple murders was prevented by the homeowner.
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> [Man fatally shot by woman during home invasion on Southeast Side identified](https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/01/man-fatally-shot-by-woman-during-home-invasion-on-southeast-side-identified/)

While I do not disagree with her right to defend her loved ones and herself, I think that this line may be a bit of hyperbole. He also could have been a potential tv or jewelry stealer. There was no mention of him carrying a weapon and/or threatening anyone. In fact, there may even have been a possibility that he didn’t know anyone was home.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1914 "2022-05-02T14:59:19Z")

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The incident happened at 10pm. There should have been lights on in the house. That used to be enough to deter burglars.

It’s true a person’s motives can’t be predicted. Maybe he was there for jewelry and the tv.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1915 "2022-05-02T15:06:48Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> had entered through a laundry room window.

I don’t see anything about a window. They said he forced his way in a back door.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> While I do not disagree with her right to defend her loved ones and herself, I think that this line may be a bit of hyperbole.

Having lived in a college town, there were stories of drunk guys being found passed out on a couch, only problem, a couch not in their own house.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1916 "2022-05-28T04:55:50Z")

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We almost had _another_ mass shooting with (of course) an AR-15, but a woman on the scene, carrying a pistol, popped several caps in the guy’s ass before he could hurt anyone.

> **[‘Good gal with a gun’: Woman with pistol kills gunman at party](https://www.abc27.com/news/good-gal-with-a-gun-woman-with-pistol-kills-gunman-at-party/)**
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> Charleston Police are releasing new details on a Wednesday night shooting investigation.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1917 "2022-07-18T11:59:05Z")

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Of course this was bad news for the 3 people the killer killed, but it could have been many more:

> **[Police laud the actions of a man who killed a shooter at an Indiana mall](https://www.npr.org/2022/07/17/1111973024/3-people-fatally-shot-indiana-mall)**
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> A 22-year-old man who was legally carrying a firearm at the mall shot and killed the gunman, police say. A gunman began firing at the Greenwood Park Mall shortly before it closed on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1918 "2022-07-18T16:43:52Z")

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I saw that as part of the news story. I know we debated the whole “good guy with a gun” theory around here a while ago - this story definitely lends credence to this theory, no?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1919 "2022-07-18T16:56:22Z")

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It’s a question of statistics: while in cases like this it came out positive I think in the long run it is more likely that there will be more negative results–the good guy misinterpreting the situation (a boyfriend/girlfriend fight when it looks quite different), the good guy missing the target and shooting innocent civilians, the good guy responding with a gun when dealing with a hostile situation when simply walking away would have resolved the situation.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1920 "2022-07-18T17:02:34Z")

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It’s not that it _never_ happens.

[ANALOGY MODE]  
Decades ago, I was a volunteer firefighter. The majority of the calls we got were motor vehicle collisions. Over a few years, I saw several collisions where the driver was very drunk. Apparently, their level of intoxication caused their body to be nearly limp. They suffered no serious injuries where all reasonable expectations would have been that serious harm would have resulted.

But the learning from that isn’t that more people should drive drunk. Too much harm would result and inure to the detriment of innocents.

And the intoxication of the driver was usually the principle cause _of_ the collision.  
[/ANALOGY MODE]

The learning from these exceptional stories really isn’t that we need more guns in society. That’s just the party line from the endless actors who profit from the sale of guns and their ongoing uses, both _legal and illegal._

It’s just another classically American perverse incentive: we privatize profits and socialize losses.

#Murica !

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