# Positive Gun News of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490 "2015-10-22T22:57:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1921 "2022-08-31T02:07:02Z")
There was a brunch, involving adults, young’uns, drag queens and savory entertainment. Naturally, a handful of protesters showed up, expressing concern about the children being “groomed”. The protesters [were met by volunteer armed guards](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-drag-brunch-draws-protesters-armed-counter-protesters/ar-AA11hnBk) – a lot of them. Which was troubling to the protesters, because _those kind of people aren’t sposta have guns_. Nonetheless, if there was a **Positive Gun News** Story of the Day, that one had to be it. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1922 "2023-08-31T02:55:25Z")
[D.C. to pay $5.1 million settlement after judge finds Second Amendment violations](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/28/dc-gun-settlement-second-amendment/) > D.C. will pay $5.1 million as part of a class-action settlement with gun owners who were arrested under laws that have since been found to violate the Second Amendment, according to the settlement agreement. Taking down unconstitutional laws one lawsuit at a time. Then punch them in the pocketbooks. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1923 "2024-05-05T21:19:44Z")
> **[Cleveland Division of Police: Amazon driver fatally shoots armed carjacker](https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/cleveland/cleveland-police-amazon-driver-fatally-shoots-armed-carjacker/95-a4bc1cd8-e49b-469f-acef-23ad979f06d4)** > > Details are developing. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1924 "2026-08-04T07:36:02Z")
> Salinas pulled into the In-N-Out Burger off of Blue Lakes Boulevard around 2:30 p.m. Chaos followed as he saw scores of people fleeing through the doors. He figured it was a kitchen fire. And then he heard the “pop-pop-pop” of gunfire. Salinas ran toward it — an “automatic” response, “mechanical,” he’d say later. The last thing he remembers hearing was his girlfriend shouting his name — “Jordan!” — and then the shooting started again. The 35-year-old from Kimberly had unwittingly rolled into a [mass shooting that would leave three victims dead](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article316743345.html) and at least seven others wounded on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. > > And he did what he could to stop it. **When gunshots rang out at a Twin Falls In-N-Out, this Idaho man shot back** [https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article316743551.html](https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article316743551.html) While three people died as well as the killer it would probably have been vastly more without the intervention. And strangely “He’d never pointed his gun at so much as an animal”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1925 "2026-08-04T08:20:51Z")
Do we know where his bullets ended up? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1926 "2026-08-04T13:13:43Z")
They say that the shooter #1 took his own life. I haven’t heard anything about additional wounds. But if this was a proper western shootout, there must have been glass pitchers of water on tables exploding and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1927 "2026-08-04T13:39:11Z")
Actually, I was referring to Jordan Salinas, not the original shooter. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1928 "2026-08-04T13:47:48Z")
Maybe I worded it poorly, but I don’t think Jordan put any rounds in shooter #1. (At least not deadly ones.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1929 "2026-08-04T14:17:03Z")
Also, was he responsible for any of the bullets that ended up in other people? At best, this is neutral gun news because he didn’t hit the original shooter, and at worst this is bad gun news if his bullets hit any innocent bystanders. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1930 "2026-08-04T14:19:56Z")
But the original shooter is a good guy for taking out the original shooter. /s **Czarcasm** ’s question is a reasonable one - if we are going to classify someone shooting back at a spree shooter as “positive gun use”, it behooves us to first understand whether doing so made the situation better, worse or neither. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1931 "2026-08-04T14:28:11Z")
He got caught and will hopefully pay a heavy price for it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1932 "2026-08-04T14:31:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > But the original shooter is a good guy for taking out the original shooter. “He may have been a mass murderer of Jews and the main cause of WWII…but at least he killed Hitler!” ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1933 "2026-08-04T15:19:12Z")
Not sure how a story about three people dying by gun, with another seven injured, could end up in a “positive gun news of the day” thread. Yay, guns!!! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1934 "2026-08-04T17:05:09Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > it behooves us to first understand whether doing so made the situation better, worse or neither. The spree killer was killing people (and he succeeded in killing three of them). When the spree killer came under fire from the the good guy and off-duty law enforcement officer he quit killing people and instead retreated, returned fire to the two people shooting at him, and then killed himself. Without this intervention the reasonable guess is that he would keep on killing people until the local police had arrived. If this was 5 minutes or so he would probably have killed five to ten more. Or it could be vastly higher if the local police had taken the attitude of the police in the Uvalde, Texas school shooting where the police waited over an hour before engaging. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1935 "2026-08-04T17:35:50Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Not sure how a story about three people dying by gun, with another seven injured, could end up in a “positive gun news of the day” thread. Just what I was about to say. There’s no way that guns made this situation better. ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1936 "2026-08-04T18:25:44Z")
> > [@Chronos](#): > > Just what I was about to say. There’s no way that guns made this situation better. I’m not sure why anyone needs to spell it out for you, but it doesn’t occur to you that the mass murderer would have likely continued to slaughter people had he not been engaged by two good guys carrying guns? Their actions almost certainly saved numerous people from injuries and death. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1937 "2026-08-04T18:51:14Z")
I think the point Chronos was making is that if guns were not a part of this news story, it wouldn’t be a story. Guns certainly made this situation worse (people trying to eat at a restaurant). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1938 "2026-08-04T18:51:34Z")
> [@Orwell](#): > > I’m not sure why anyone needs to spell it out for you, but it doesn’t occur to you that the mass murderer would have likely continued to slaughter people had he not been engaged by two good guys carrying guns? With what, a knife? He’d have gotten two, max, before being overwhelmed. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1939 "2026-08-04T19:37:24Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > With what, a knife? He’d have gotten two, max, before being overwhelmed This is certainly silly as a “positive gun news” story, but mass stabbings can and do have significantly higher body counts than “two, max”. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2026, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1940 "2026-08-13T17:28:28Z")
The $200 tax for short-barreled shotguns, short-barreled rifles and suppressors was done away with last year. Yesterday, the DoJ refused to appeal a ruling that found restrictions on suppressors unconstitutional. Does this mean we no longer need to fill out paperwork for suppressors? Would love to get some cans for my rifles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490.md?page=98)