# Possible and likely US political outcomes for next four years

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 6, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235 "2024-12-06T02:30:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235/41 "2024-12-10T02:56:40Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Depending on how draconian the deportation arrests are, there may also be public push back.

There probably will be some sympathetic-to-you-and-me individual stories. A mother deported at age 40, who has lived here for 30 years, and has one 20-years-back shoplifting conviction. Will the median voter feel about that as old-time-liberal me does? Maybe not. Maybe they will think that a Dreamer should have dreamt, not shoplifted.

Trump does not want to solve problems. So he wouldn’t deport them all, even if he could. He wants to say the Democrats stopped him from doing the whole job, so another MAGA term is essential.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235/42 "2024-12-10T03:06:42Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Trump does not want to solve problems. So he wouldn’t deport them all, even if he could. He wants to say the Democrats stopped him from doing the whole job, so another MAGA term is essential.

I think that’s more strategy than he’s capable of. And also unnecessary, since he can just make up another enemy anytime.

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**Author:** ![Gordon\_G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Gordon\_G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gordon_G)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235/43 "2024-12-19T10:29:35Z")

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The GOP will have only very narrow majorities in the two Houses. That would be a reason for optimism except that almost all the GOPs seem committed to the fascist agenda. And Trump and the criminals he appoints will issue and execute illegal orders in defiance of Congressional consent. Thus I think a combination of scenarios 2 & 4 in OP is most likely.

Four reasons for pessimism are found in a recent opinion by Robert Reich. Each of four possible centers of resistance to Trump has been targeted by Trump and his allies.

> [@Robert Reich](#):
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> America’s CEOs are standing in line to kiss his tush. So are the titans of Wall Street and even Joe Scarborough.
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> So, where will the opposition to Trump come from?
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> 1. Universities?
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> University faculties are dedicated to finding and exposing the truth — which has often meant calling out Trump’s lies — but Trump has warned that he’ll change the criteria for university accrediting in order to force university faculties into line.
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> In a campaign video, he said, “Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system … When I return to the White House, I will fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges to become dominated by Marxist Maniacs.”  
> … Trump has also threatened to increase taxes on university endowments.
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> 1. Nonprofits?
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> The U.S. House of Representatives has already passed a bill that would empower the Treasury Department to eliminate the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit it deems to be supporting terrorism.
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> 1. The media?
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> The flurry of defamation lawsuits … are the latest signs that the incoming Trump administration is poised to crack down on unfavorable media coverage. Trump and his allies have also discussed revoking networks’ broadcast licenses and eliminating funding for public radio and television.
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> 1. Organized labor?
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> Trump has warned organized labor that he will oppose their efforts to organize. The president of the Teamsters Union even appeared at the National Republican Convention in support of Trump.

Trump & Musk hope that the government will shut down on Saturday. Whether the GOP Congress acquiesces to this may be a harbinger of what is to come.

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**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-and-likely-us-political-outcomes-for-next-four-years/1011235/44 "2024-12-19T10:49:52Z")

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> [@Robert Reich](#):
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> 1. Universities?
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> University faculties are dedicated to finding and exposing the truth — which has often meant calling out Trump’s lies — but Trump has warned that he’ll change the criteria for university accrediting in order to force university faculties into line.

Also curtailing federal funding for “woke” universities.

[https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/17/donald-trump-poised-shake-america-woke-colleges-un/](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/17/donald-trump-poised-shake-america-woke-colleges-un/)

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