# Possible deadly Chinese submarine clusterfuck **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 4, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079 "2023-10-04T02:24:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/21 "2023-11-20T17:52:48Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Great. Now I got Kenny Loggins stuck in my head. The engineer is quoted to have said “Jack, get back, come on before we crack!” ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/22 "2023-11-20T18:01:55Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Great. Now I got Kenny Loggins stuck in my head. > > I’m hoping the reporting is wrong, rather than there’s exactly one depth gauge on the bridge. I’m certain the reporting is wrong. It is inconceivable that there is only one depth gauge in the control room (not the bridge, which is located at the top of the sail [i.e. conning tower] and which is only utilized while on the surface). What is conceivable is simple operator error, where the operators of the ship control panel focus their attention only on the primary depth gauge and angle indicator, instead of periodically cross-checking with the numerous secondary gauges like they are supposed to do. Reading the article, it took personnel in the engineering spaces (who also have depth and/or pressure gauges) to raise the alarm. Pretty serious screw-up, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/23 "2023-11-20T18:08:13Z")
Great. Now I got _Genesis_ stuck in my head. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/24 "2023-11-20T18:50:26Z")
> [@robby](#): > > (not the bridge, which is located at the top of the sail [i.e. conning tower] and which is only utilized while on the surface). Thanks for the correction. Bridge sounded wrong, but I wasn’t sure what else to use. So I assume there are actually zero depth gauges on the bridge? ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/25 "2023-11-20T19:15:01Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > So I assume there are actually zero depth gauges on the bridge? Not much point if it’s only used on the surface ! ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/26 "2023-11-20T19:17:02Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > > [@robby](#): > > > > (not the bridge, which is located at the top of the sail [i.e. conning tower] and which is only utilized while on the surface). > > Thanks for the correction. Bridge sounded wrong, but I wasn’t sure what else to use. So I assume there are actually zero depth gauges on the bridge? That’s correct. In fact, there is typically only a temporarily installed panel in place with heading info, engine order telegraph, communications equipment, etc. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/27 "2023-11-20T20:32:51Z")
> [@robby](#): > > … Reading the article, it took personnel in the engineering spaces (who also have depth and/or pressure gauges) to raise the alarm. Pretty serious screw-up, IMHO. I recall reading about an incident on a WWII sub — I believe it was the _Harder_ — where the depth gauge in the control room malfunctioned. One of the electricians’ mates in the maneuvering room (the compartment aft of the engine rooms where power to the electric motors was controlled) looked at the depth gauge there and realized they were actually below the maximum rated depth. Much scrambling ensued. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/28 "2023-11-21T14:35:55Z")
It was an admittedly very lame joke. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/29 "2023-11-21T15:53:58Z")
or … maybe you meant to type “zero-depth guages” (ie guages which only show a depth of zero feet !) ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079/30 "2023-11-23T11:22:58Z")
so, has that OP ever been confirmed? with 6 weeks having passed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-deadly-chinese-submarine-clusterfuck/991079.md?page=1)