# Possible Republican Refusal of SOTU Address?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 26, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685 "2014-11-26T16:37:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/201 "2014-12-11T19:30:28Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Maybe you could arrange to rent **iiandyiiii** ’s inflatable doll and her dancing bear/Winnie the Pooh costume?

If that’s what you need to get going. I don’t judge.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/202 "2014-12-11T20:38:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I know you’re having trouble shaking these images of the taut rear-ends of honey-dabbed men shaking in the streets. I have faith in you, though – you can rise beyond these visions. Only if you want to, though – maybe you’re perfectly happy in this honey-filled world you’ve created.

You’re still seem confused about who you are speaking for. These are your idea’s and you are the one typing them.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/203 "2014-12-11T20:40:02Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> If that’s what you need to get going. I don’t judge.

Yes you do. You’re not fooling anyone. But if it keeps you busy…

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/204 "2014-12-11T20:41:37Z")

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Here’s what’s ridiculous to even think about not inviting Obama for TSOTU. Article II, Section 3 allows him to convene both Houses of Congress.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/205 "2014-12-11T20:56:40Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Here’s what’s ridiculous to even think about not inviting Obama for TSOTU. Article II, Section 3 allows him to convene both Houses of Congress.

Yes, the President can convene both Houses. Convene doesn’t mean that the President gets to speak from the floor of the House.

Where does it say that the President must verbally deliver the SOTU from either House? Past Presidents have sent written copies to Congress.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/206 "2014-12-11T22:15:26Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Yes, the President can convene both Houses. Convene doesn’t mean that the President gets to speak from the floor of the House.
> 
> Where does it say that the President must verbally deliver the SOTU from either House? Past Presidents have sent written copies to Congress.

If it will shut up this line of inane argument, I will stipulate that the President does not have to address Congress, at any time.

But if he chooses to address Congress, I would love to see them try to keep him out.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/207 "2014-12-11T22:27:21Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> You’re still seem confused about who you are speaking for. These are your idea’s and you are the one typing them.

It’s okay, you’re in a safe place. I know you’re [embarrassed](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17969027#post17969027), and you can’t stop talking about [butts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17969100#post17969100), but that’s no reason to get hysterical. If it helps, just go to your honey-coated, man-filled, mustachioed happy place.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/208 "2014-12-11T22:57:23Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Yes you do. You’re not fooling anyone. But if it keeps you busy…

I judge you because you’re stupid and willfully ignorant. Not for your sexual predilections.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/209 "2014-12-11T23:02:04Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I judge you because you’re stupid and willfully ignorant. Not for your sexual predilections.

Still busy, I see.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/210 "2014-12-11T23:14:39Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s okay, you’re in a safe place. I know you’re [embarrassed](http://boards.straightope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17969027#post17969027), and you can’t stop talking about [butts](http://boards.straightope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17969100#post17969100), but that’s no reason to get hysterical. If it helps, just go to your honey-coated, man-filled, mustachioed happy place.

Speaking of safe places, how many of your personalities are telling you that you aren’t publically relating your own fantasies? Two, three, twelve? Sherlock Holmes? Oliver Wendell Holmes? John Holmes? Katie Holmes? Wassup, Holmes!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/211 "2014-12-11T23:19:06Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Speaking of safe places

It’s okay. You can have all the honey-covered men’s butts in your mind’s eye. There’s no judgment here.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/212 "2014-12-12T02:20:35Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Still busy, I see.

You’re spending the day trolling a message board, and \*I’m \*the one with too much time on his hands?

Ok, yes, I do have too much time on my hands. But still.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/213 "2014-12-12T02:38:19Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s okay. You can have all the honey-covered men’s butts in your mind’s eye. There’s no judgment here.

It sounds like you’re writing the menu for The Walking Dead’s sanctuary?

Do you imagine yourself to be a writer for the **iiandyiiii** Broadcasting Network?

[https://arcanestore.com/product/scrooged-ibc/](https://arcanestore.com/product/scrooged-ibc/)

And no still means no. Stop begging.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/214 "2014-12-12T02:44:52Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> You’re spending the day trolling a message board, and \*I’m \*the one with too much time on his hands?
> 
> Ok, yes, I do have too much time on my hands. But still.

Shhhhhhh. Don’t say the word b-u-t. It seems to drive **iiandyiiii** bonkers. It’s like some kind of really bad movie. Shhhhhhh.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/215 "2014-12-12T04:16:16Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Shhhhhhh. Don’t say the word b-u-t. It seems to drive **iiandyiiii** bonkers. It’s like some kind of really bad movie. Shhhhhhh.

But why can’t I say but?

Can I say t-r-o-l-l?

Even you don’t believe the crap\*, you’re spewing here.

\*Which usually comes out of a butt

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/216 "2014-12-12T12:12:57Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Shhhhhhh.

Shhhh, indeed.

Don’t be ashamed, **doorhinge**. In today’s modern world, your desires are not out of the ordinary at all. In fact, with some effort, I’m sure you could find a lovely, burly gentleman who would be happy to dip himself in honey for your pleasure.

Good luck, friend.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/217 "2014-12-12T17:42:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Shhhh, indeed.
> 
> Don’t be ashamed, **doorhinge**. In today’s modern world, your desires are not out of the ordinary at all. In fact, with some effort, I’m sure you could find a lovely, burly gentleman who would be happy to dip himself in honey for your pleasure.
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> Good luck, friend.

Whoa, hold your horses pardner. I’m not the one using a lifestyle choice, a very specific lifestyle choice, as a shillelagh in a lame attempt to punish others. I’m not the one lying about who’s fantasy this is. I’m hoping that you can up your game a little. I think we’re losing spectators. Except for whatshisname, and I suspect that might involve pictures with naked farm animals being used as leverage?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/218 "2014-12-12T17:45:53Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> lifestyle choice

Your lifestyle choices are your own business, friend. It’s certainly not my cup of tea, but I would never criticize someone for choosing to live a life full of burly admirers covered with honey. You live your life your way!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/219 "2014-12-12T17:57:15Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I’m not the one using a lifestyle choice, a very specific lifestyle choice, as a shillelagh in a lame attempt to punish others.

Except you are. Do you even read what you post?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/220 "2014-12-12T18:18:57Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Your lifestyle choices are your own business, friend. It’s certainly not my cup of tea, but I would never criticize someone for choosing to live a life full of burly admirers covered with honey. You live your life your way!

You’ve proven yourself to be an internet bully, an ineffective internet bully, and you have proven that you are willing to lie to continue your deceit. You live your life your way.

And no still means no.

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