# Possible Republican Refusal of SOTU Address? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685 "2014-11-26T16:37:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/121 "2014-12-10T00:53:19Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Obviously, he’s _un_hinged. > > Assuming I understand his blither-blather correctly, **doorhinge** is trying to make it Obama’s “fault” whether or not he makes an address to Congress by making it sound like Obama is supposed to request an invitation. And your assumption would be wrong. Obama has a choice, a choice that he has yet to make. In other words, it doesn’t matter if you invite me to your birthday party if I have no intention of attending. Capisce? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/122 "2014-12-10T01:10:28Z")
Honestly, all I got from that was “lame stream media” and then my stomach reached up and strangled my brain to death. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/123 "2014-12-10T01:23:37Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Obama has said that he does not need Congress. Obama has not made it clear that he wants to give his SOTU from the floor of the House… Does Congress usually wait until the President makes his intention clear before inviting him to deliver the State of the Union Address? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/124 "2014-12-10T01:30:23Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Honestly, all I got from that was “lame stream media” and then my stomach reached up and strangled my brain to death. Get well soon! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/125 "2014-12-10T01:37:56Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Does Congress usually wait until the President makes his intention clear before inviting him to deliver the State of the Union Address? idk. I assume there is some negotiating done before a resolution is passed creating the event. Does a President usually announce that he doesn’t need Congress and will act without Congress? Does such a President need, or want, to speak before the Congress he is currently ignoring? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/126 "2014-12-10T01:42:09Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Does a President usually announce that he doesn’t need Congress and will act without Congress? Does such a President need, or want, to speak before the Congress he is currently ignoring? Once again, you are claiming things not supported by the record. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/127 "2014-12-10T01:47:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Once again, you are claiming things not supported by the record. I asked two questions. Can you answer either of them? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/128 "2014-12-10T01:54:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I asked two questions. Can you answer either of them? Since both were hypothetical, I didn’t see the point. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/129 "2014-12-10T01:55:57Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I asked two questions. Can you answer either of them? Neither of your questions is relevant. President Obama is working within his Constitutional role–as a Constitutional scholar would understand. (He\* is\* one.) Ted Cruz knows better, too. But he’s convinced that enough grandstanding will make him the Republican nominee in 2016. Not realizing how deeply loathsome he is… The Republicans have been playing to their racist constituency & avoiding any immigration reform legislation. The next two years will be their chance to prove they can govern. They will fail. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/130 "2014-12-10T02:14:48Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > idk. I assume there is some negotiating done before a resolution is passed creating the event. > > Does a President usually announce that he doesn’t need Congress and will act without Congress? Does such a President need, or want, to speak before the Congress he is currently ignoring? Ya know, it rained all day here yesterday. I’m curious as to whether or not it rained on the planet you live on. So, could we get a weather report from CrazyObsessedipter? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/131 "2014-12-10T02:16:06Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Neither of your questions is relevant. President Obama is working within his Constitutional role–as a Constitutional scholar would understand. (He\* is\* one.) Ted Cruz knows better, too. But he’s convinced that enough grandstanding will make him the Republican nominee in 2016. Not realizing how deeply loathsome he is… > > The Republicans have been playing to their racist constituency & avoiding any immigration reform legislation. The next two years will be their chance to prove they can govern. They will fail. Relevant? In the BBQ Pit? Seriously? Obama is also a Noble peace prize recipient. (It’s as if they just give those things away.) Let me know when Obama announces his decision as to where he plans on delivering his SOTU address from. Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/132 "2014-12-10T02:18:49Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Ya know, it rained all day here yesterday. Why would I know that it rained all day there yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/133 "2014-12-10T02:19:56Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Let me know when Obama announces his decision as to where he plans on delivering his SOTU address from. Has a President ever done that before? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/134 "2014-12-10T02:27:23Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Has a President ever done that before? Do you believe that **Bridget Burke** is the President? Just for the record, neither **Bridget Burke** nor the President has ever done that before. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/135 "2014-12-10T03:24:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Why would I know that it rained all day there yesterday? You seem to know everything else. It just seemed logical that you would know about the weather. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was much nicer here today although a bit on the chilly side early on (at least for this Florida boy). So, how was it today on your planet? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/136 "2014-12-10T04:37:04Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Relevant? In the BBQ Pit? Seriously? > > Obama is also a Noble peace prize recipient. (It’s as if they just give those things away.) > > Let me know when Obama announces his decision as to where he plans on delivering his SOTU address from. Thanks in advance. I honestly cannot tell if you’re that fucking stupid, or just playing a _very_ skillful long con. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/137 "2014-12-10T05:29:54Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > You seem to know everything else. It just seemed logical that you would know about the weather. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It was much nicer here today although a bit on the chilly side early on (at least for this Florida boy). So, how was it today on your planet? It only seems that way from your perspective. 😃 Planet Earth is doing fine. The average global temperature remains steady. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/138 "2014-12-10T07:06:57Z")
Let it be noted that Dopers are not, for the most part, Terracentric specieists and welcome all life forms without exception\*, carbon-based or not. \*Kzinti are welcome if spayed, neutered, bound, gagged and drugged. Heavily. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/139 "2014-12-10T10:26:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Let me know when Obama announces his decision as to where he plans on delivering his SOTU address from. Thanks in advance. Let me know when you make a decision on whether or not to strip naked, cover yourself in honey, and roll around in the street while singing “America the Beautiful”. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2014, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685/140 "2014-12-10T12:17:31Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Just for the record, neither **Bridget Burke** nor the President has ever done that before. Then why would you expect the President to do it now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possible-republican-refusal-of-sotu-address/705685.md?page=8)