# Possibly the least Christian response to the election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518 "2012-11-09T20:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/21 "2012-11-10T12:00:31Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Now, we can argue about whether or not his economic prognostication is correct or not, but what does JC tell us about an employer who thinks he can’t stay in business under a given political climate? JC tells us that that employer better not be rich. I’m having trouble finding this guy’s annual salary, but if it’s more than (to grab a figure almost at random, but really looking for the median US income level) $50,000, he could cut his salary and thereby maintain some workers. Of course he doesn’t have to do so. But for him to pray to Jesus and then fire a bunch of workers, without taking a personal giant cut in salary, is the height of hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/22 "2012-11-10T14:00:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Lord, please forgive me and anyone with me in Murray Energy Corp. for the decisions that we are now forced to make to preserve the very existence of any of the enterprises that you have helped us build. And here I thought Republicans built things themselves. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/23 "2012-11-10T14:55:35Z")
Jesus also told of a parable where servants to invest their talents, which shows that he was a venture capitalist and approved of rent, interest and wage labour. Also he received gold from some African men which shows he disapproved of fiat currency. I think this man is a great standard bearer for capitalism. When people consider the staggering unemployment rate under our Dear Leader and note that this man is still willing to sacrifice his employees in order to protect the bottom line, he’ll receive nothing but adulation. Far more reasonable than sinking capital in unproductive industries like GM. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/24 "2012-11-10T15:04:38Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Jesus also told of a parable where servants to invest their talents, which shows that he was a venture capitalist and approved of rent, interest and wage labour. Also he received gold from some African men which shows he disapproved of fiat currency. > > I think this man is a great standard bearer for capitalism. When people consider the staggering unemployment rate under our Dear Leader and note that this man is still willing to sacrifice his employees in order to protect the bottom line, he’ll receive nothing but adulation. Far more reasonable than sinking capital in unproductive industries like GM. I’m the only Elections mod around at the moment – I’m not sure whether you’re going to be told not to do this at all, or merely to add an explanatory sig each time you do. For now, add the sig. We’ll get back to you on a final ruling. **twickster** , Elections moderator ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/25 "2012-11-10T15:04:46Z")
Edit: NM, twickster gave the relevant info before I could. [second edit: actually, she didn’t give the info, namely, that gamerunknown is posting the opposite of his real beliefs in order to honor a wager.] ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/26 "2012-11-10T16:41:50Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > JC tells us that that employer better not be rich. I’m having trouble finding this guy’s annual salary, but if it’s more than (to grab a figure almost at random, but really looking for the median US income level) $50,000, he could cut his salary and thereby maintain some workers. > > Of course he doesn’t have to do so. But for him to pray to Jesus and then fire a bunch of workers, without taking a personal giant cut in salary, is the height of hypocrisy. Nope. Think of what Jesus told Judas about the very expensive oil MM “wasted” anointing him [Jesus]. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/27 "2012-11-10T17:45:57Z")
OK, so this guy’s off the hook, provided he’s the son of God. I’m not sure that changes anything, **John**. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/28 "2012-11-10T17:54:30Z")
The point is, there are many things in the NT that can be cobbled together to support whatever narrow view you want to espouse. But there isn’t just one, clear-cut view. And nowhere does it say that JC played by different rules than he expected us to play by. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/29 "2012-11-10T18:00:02Z")
This scumbag cited God while firing his employees and blaming Obama. Not only is he lying, but he’s using God’s name in the lie. He’s gonna burn, assuming God does that. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/30 "2012-11-10T19:17:04Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > This scumbag cited God while firing his employees and blaming Obama. > > Not only is he lying, but he’s using God’s name in the lie. > > He’s gonna burn, assuming God does that. And he’ll be required to bring his own coal, too! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/31 "2012-11-10T21:55:27Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The point is, there are many things in the NT that can be cobbled together to support whatever narrow view you want to espouse. But there isn’t just one, clear-cut view. And nowhere does it say that JC played by different rules than he expected us to play by. If your point is that people can bullshit pretty effectively with the Bible, that’s just as conceded as any other Cptn. Obvious point you care to make. If you’re suggesting that the gospel is unclear on this point, however, you’re just ridiculously wrong. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/32 "2012-11-10T22:14:23Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If your point is that people can bullshit pretty effectively with the Bible, that’s just as conceded as any other Cptn. Obvious point you care to make. If you’re suggesting that the gospel is unclear on this point, however, you’re just ridiculously wrong. What point is the gospels clear on? You can say I’m “ridiculously wrong”, if you want, but in this forum you’re expected to prove things, not just state them. Your point about the guy being "rich’ is laughable, since we don’t know what Christ meant by “rich” and we don’t know what this guys finances are. ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/33 "2012-11-10T22:50:12Z")
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24 He says it ALSO in Luke 18: 24-25 and in Mark 10:24-25 Jesus also said “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” This guy is not a follower of Jesus, he is an example of Religion inc. None of these so called Christian-Republicans should be considered spiritualists. There is a reason it is so hard for rich people to get to heaven: to get rich you have to shit on your fellow man. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/34 "2012-11-10T23:36:17Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24 > He says it ALSO in Luke 18: 24-25 and in Mark 10:24-25 But maybe he meant billionaire, not just multimillionaire. YOU DON’T KNOW!!!11!one!! ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/35 "2012-11-12T04:05:11Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > There is a reason it is so hard for rich people to get to heaven: to get rich you have to shit on your fellow man. That is as absurd as saying all poor people are poor because they were lazy and unvirtuous. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/36 "2012-11-12T04:26:37Z")
Or as I say; “If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at who he gives it to.” ---
**Author:** ![Randvek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Randvek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randvek)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/37 "2012-11-12T04:46:48Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > That is as absurd as saying all poor people are poor because they were lazy and unvirtuous. Really? You think we have as much evidence as to what makes people poor as we do for what gets people into heaven? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/38 "2012-11-12T15:51:34Z")
> [@Dumbguy](#): > > Lighten up, Francis. No, he was right, I was being a jerk (mentally mixed up my forums there for a moment). Which is why I immediately apologized. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/39 "2012-11-12T16:12:37Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24 > He says it ALSO in Luke 18: 24-25 and in Mark 10:24-25 How much money does the guy in question have? > [@](#): > > Jesus also said “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Pfft. Being a Christian isn’t the same as being “perfect”, and if this is the standard, then no one except a handful of monks is a Christian. > [@](#): > > This guy is not a follower of Jesus, he is an example of Religion inc. None of these so called Christian-Republicans should be considered spiritualists. There is a reason it is so hard for rich people to get to heaven: to get rich you have to shit on your fellow man. I seem to recall Jesus saying something about judging others, too. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518/40 "2012-11-12T18:05:46Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > How much money does the guy in question have? Enough to be rich by any reasonable standard of the term. I mean, c’mon. Are you seriously entertaining for an instant that the camel-through-the-needle soundbite sets the bar so high that the CEO of the largest coal operation in the US would be excluded? > [@](#): > > I seem to recall Jesus saying something about judging others, too. And this is the lovely thing about not being a Christian: I can judge him by his own standards and say that either he’s wrong about the cosmos, or he’s not going to heaven, one or the other. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/possibly-the-least-christian-response-to-the-election/640518.md?page=1)