# Post CF and on-going Trump outrages

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2021, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746 "2021-02-25T21:48:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/301 "2021-05-07T17:43:39Z")

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> [@Deeg](#):
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> Doesn’t feel right to abbreviate Secret Service to SS.

Technically since it’s called the United States Secret Service, it should be abbreviated to USSS. But that sounds like a snake talking.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/302 "2021-05-07T18:25:20Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> It’s against the rules to wish retirement on someone?

Retirement… yeah, yeah, that’s the ticket.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/303 "2021-05-07T18:26:19Z")

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At a nice farm upstate.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/304 "2021-05-07T18:32:07Z")

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> [@Lurking\_Quahog](#):
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> the boviating doofus

. . . loudly mooing.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/305 "2021-05-07T21:44:28Z")

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I’m no rancher, but I’m sure I’ve listened to cows making more sense than Trump usually does.

Or is “boviating” the process of spewing bovine shit? He’s a whiz at that.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/306 "2021-05-07T22:16:48Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> It’s against the rules to wish retirement on someone?

Like in Blade Runner?

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**Author:** ![Lurking\_Quahog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lurking_quahog/32/21274_2.png) [@Lurking\_Quahog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lurking_Quahog)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/307 "2021-05-08T09:51:24Z")

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That kinda works, too.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/308 "2021-05-19T02:11:36Z")

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Both CNN and MSNBC are now reporting that the investigations into the Trump Organization are now criminal in nature, not just civil.

My, my, my. Not actually an unforeseen bit of news, but a very welcome one. Haven’t yet been able to find a link to share. I’m sure one will be along momentarily.

ETA: Yes, here we go.

> **[Trump Organization now subject to criminal investigation in New York, state...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-organization-now-subject-to-criminal-investigation-in-new-york-cnn-2021-5)**
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> "We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity," a spokesperson for the New York attorney general's office said.

Paywalled, unfortunately.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/309 "2021-05-19T02:21:23Z")

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Ooooo… I like it!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/310 "2021-05-19T02:28:27Z")

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The New York AG and the Manhattan DA’s Office are teaming up for this investigation. Former US Attorney Andrew Weissman, most recently of Mueller investigation fame, is on MSNBC now explaining how these criminal charges most likely arise out of violations covered by the Martin Act, having to do with criminal real estate dealings.

And since this is an investigation into the Trump Organization, if violations are found, this will involve every member of that organization. Lotta people named Trump fall into that category.

I’m sure they won’t find/haven’t found anything. /s

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/311 "2021-05-19T02:55:02Z")

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Here’s a non-paywalled link from Reuters.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-state-probe-trump-organization-is-now-criminal-attorney-general-2021-05-19/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-state-probe-trump-organization-is-now-criminal-attorney-general-2021-05-19/)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/312 "2021-05-19T03:05:50Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Ooooo… I like it!

As appealing as it sounds, it seems likely that the MAGAtry will use it to beatify him with martyrdom. See? He upset the establishment and now they are persecuting him!

(And given that he is hardly the only rich guy deserving of prosecution, the point would not be entirely without merit.)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/313 "2021-05-19T03:17:09Z")

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That can never be a reason to not pursue criminal investigations. Sure, there is a segment of his base that will revere him under any and all circumstances. But this investigation – and its prosecution if merited – is not a witch hunt, no matter how much the hard core Trump toads try to create that narrative.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/314 "2021-05-19T12:45:26Z")

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I think that this thread

> [@When your pets attempt murder](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-your-pets-attempt-murder/941958):
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> Hey so, what’s the last thing one of your pets did to try to kill you? [https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/V106YZ2kTmao4Oz1GvwnPg.-QTxPLuYAEmSPVTG2jLqQs](https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/V106YZ2kTmao4Oz1GvwnPg.-QTxPLuYAEmSPVTG2jLqQs) This is Poe. He’s 10 months old, and today he tried to kill us all by turning on one of the gas stove burners when he jumped on the stove while alone in the kitchen. Fortunately I discovered it before anything other than the burner lit up. I’ve pulled all the knobs from the stove for tonight, and tomorrow I’ll buy child safety covers. So, h…

Is all the proof you need. Cats are aliens trying to murder us all to prepare the way for the next wave.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/315 "2021-05-19T13:20:38Z")

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How does that post fit in here? (What am I missing?)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/316 "2021-05-19T13:31:55Z")

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Wow, it doesn’t… Got that in the wrong thread…

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/317 "2021-05-19T14:19:16Z")

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It means it’s too bad Trump isn’t a cat owner 😝

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/318 "2021-05-19T14:52:14Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Wow, it doesn’t… Got that in the wrong thread…

Oops.

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Is all the proof you need. Cats are aliens trying to murder us all to prepare the way for the next wave.

OTOH, I think you can make a case that Republicans are aliens trying to ~~murder~~ outvote us all to prepare for them taking over everything.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/319 "2021-05-19T16:22:48Z")

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[https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/trump-post-presidency-allowance/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/trump-post-presidency-allowance/index.html)

> (CNN)[Former President Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/president-donald-trump-45) has spent his first five months away from Washington surrounded by a generously paid group of staffers, at least one of whom received a $32,000 raise over their White House salary, according to Freedom of Information Act records obtained by CNN.
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> As of May 12, the compensation for aides kept on by Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence, who received about 20% of the $2.6 million sum available to both men in accordance with the Presidential Transaction Act, totaled $1.26 million. The lump sum for transition activities, which is managed by the General Services Administration during a former president’s first six months out of office, is typically applied toward rent for a suitable office space, staff salaries and benefits, and printing and postage expenses.
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> In Trump’s case, the bulk of the funds available to him have been used to pay several ex-White House staffers who remained by his side at his Mar-a-Lago estate in South Florida – where he has been building out a post-presidential political machine – before [he relocated earlier this month to his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf club](http://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/bedminster-mar-a-lago-donald-trump/index.html), where he and his team will spend the summer. The FOIA records, which the Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington (CREW) shared with CNN, show that everyone from Trump’s post-presidential communications director Dan Scavino and adviser Stephen Miller to an unidentified personal aide are receiving six-figure salaries.  
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His lips are still clamped firmly to the bosom of the American taxpayer.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/320 "2021-05-19T16:36:35Z")

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> (CNN)[Former President Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/specials/politics/president-donald-trump-45) has spent his first five months away from Washington surrounded by a generously paid group of staffers, at least one of whom received a $32,000 raise over their White House salary, according to Freedom of Information Act records obtained by CNN.

Does that money go directly from the GSA to the staffers, or does the GSA give the money to Trump who then pays his staff?

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