# Post Democratic Hate Speech Here

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197 "2016-11-16T20:35:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/41 "2016-11-16T22:56:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> A complete moron who twice built multi-billion dollar fortunes from virtually nothing (a one million dollar loan the first time and from a billion in debt the second). Who, after accurately sensing the mood of the nation, laid waste to all the traditional Republican candidates in the primaries and ultimately won the presidency through a non-traditional campaign conducted mostly through a series of rallies, while spending very little money compared to his opponent.
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> We should all be such morons.
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> If there’s any one thing that has completely put the lie to the belief that this is the smartest message board on the planet, it’s the incredible amount of ignorance and nonsense that has been posted here in regard to Donald Trump.

So now were supposed to forget that Fred Trump left behind an estate worth half a billion?

The “self-made” fairy tale is bullshit.

Every private investor lost money on Trump’s casinos. Every shareholder got shafted after it went public. But not the con man, who knew full well that he could never meet the debt burden from all of his loans, which is why no American bank will do business with Chump.

Think about that. This “brilliant, self-made businessman” is persona non grata at every U.S. bank. When you’re done thinking, go fuck a cactus.

As for this thread, don’t put a racist cunt in the White House without expecting blowback. When you hire a guy like Bannon, you’ve endorsed bigotry and hatred. It can’t be spun any other way.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/42 "2016-11-16T23:12:25Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Pure nonsense; standard right wing propaganda. We got in this mess in large part because of the refusal of the Democrats and most of the population to believe the Republicans are as bad as they are. And now the bigots have won, probably essentially permanently.

Of course, your rants about Clinton did nothing to help depress liberal turnout and your continual shit talking did nothing to get people who normally sit out elections to go “You know what fuck that guy. I’ll show him”. There were certainly millions of people who bought into the trump rhetoric and a lot of them were racists and there were certainly piles of misogynist who voted against Clinton but as we’ve seen there we’re a lot of people motivated by being perceived as stupid and deplorable by the liberals those people are a lot of the ones who normally sit out elections.

Instead of continuing to be an ass maybe you could try and come up with a way that doesn’t put your opposition’s back up be still shows them you disagree. I am certainly not in the group saying give trump a chance I’m saying that maybe you should think about what your goal is and if it’s changing people’s minds or at least getting them not to want to fight you maybe your approach to fighting dipshit’s Supreme Court nominations shouldn’t start with “Only fucking brain dead cousin fuckers would support that” and maybe go “I disagree with that position because . . .”

Otherwise you’re correct the people you despise are going to be in controll until that fuck up this country so bad that it is impossible to vote for them.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/43 "2016-11-16T23:16:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> So now were supposed to forget that Fred Trump left behind an estate worth half a billion?
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> The “self-made” fairy tale is bullshit.
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> Every private investor lost money on Trump’s casinos. Every shareholder got shafted after it went public. But not the con man, who knew full well that he could never meet the debt burden from all of his loans, which is why no American bank will do business with Chump.  
> .

Has ANYone who has done business with Trump made money? Or has he shafted every investor, every bank, every contractor, every supplier? There must be a few, but not many, I’d wager.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/44 "2016-11-16T23:25:04Z")

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**Drunky Smurf** , possibly the most hateful poster ever, has used sarcasm is attempt to support your point.

This means you have lost. Better luck next time.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/45 "2016-11-16T23:27:40Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> virtually nothing (a one million dollar loan the first time

If that’s nothing, then I wants \*plenty \*o’ nothin’ !

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/46 "2016-11-16T23:28:39Z")

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Well, I see it’s time once again to point out that Trump had already made and lost his first multi-billion dollar fortune and had built his second by the time his father died. Trump has owned or had an interest in some 200 companies. Four were taken bankrupt.

I see you come by your name honestly, **Blank Slate**.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/47 "2016-11-16T23:28:49Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> **Drunky Smurf** , possibly the most hateful poster ever

It’s all for show, he’ll calm down after we elect him Head Doper.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/48 "2016-11-16T23:33:53Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> **Drunky Smurf** , possibly the most hateful poster ever, has used sarcasm is attempt to support your point.
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> This means you have lost. Better luck next time.

Compared to the several billion he turned it into it’s not much.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/49 "2016-11-16T23:35:46Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Has ANYone who has done business with Trump made money? Or has he shafted every investor, every bank, every contractor, every supplier? There must be a few, but not many, I’d wager.

If you started out with hundreds of millions in NYC real estate and somehow went broke, that would be amazing. Any business school graduate could have turned that into billions over thirty years. Trump is notable for fucking it all up.

Most New Yorkers have recognized Trump’s M.O. for decades: make any promise (lie) to get the backing, then bend every loophole in existence until it’s time to cash out. Profit!

You gotta give him credit for pulling his scam on 60 million people at once. It will be remembered as the most epic fraud in history.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/50 "2016-11-16T23:44:45Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Your spellchecker fucked you.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I was going to say the Freudian Spellchecker strikes again.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> (bolding mine)  
> Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there!
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> …and Grand Theft Auto is the highest form of Liberation!

That spelling was deliberate. It is from a Tea Party protestor’s poster.

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/1b/87/0e1b8740de7901cda4dd6df2c2a2d978.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/1b/87/0e1b8740de7901cda4dd6df2c2a2d978.jpg)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/51 "2016-11-17T00:24:07Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> **Info Wars**? You really get your facts from that cesspool?
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> What the actual fuck.

What, they have _facts_ at InfoWars?

Man, they’ve _got_ to work on their quality control.

Seriously, between **Saint Cad** citing InfoWars, and **HurricaneDitka** citing Breitbart, they’re hitting all the faves here. Wonder who will link to StormFront first? (Don’t do this, anyone. Really. Just don’t do it.)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/52 "2016-11-17T00:27:58Z")

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How could that guy spend all that time on his costume and not spare a minute for proofreading?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/53 "2016-11-17T00:32:13Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> **Info Wars**? You really get your facts from that cesspool?
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> What the actual fuck.

No shit. Alex Jones actually denies that Sandy Hook ever took place. Who needs hate speech when you’ve got scum like this on your team?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/54 "2016-11-17T00:35:46Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Seriously, between **Saint Cad** citing InfoWars, and **HurricaneDitka** citing Breitbart, they’re hitting all the faves here. Wonder who will link to StormFront first? (Don’t do this, anyone. Really. Just don’t do it.)

Between **Saint Cad** citing InfoWars and **HurricaneDitka** citing Breitbart, multiplied by millions of instances of the same and throwing into the mix Newsmax and Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and the like, one begins to understand how a comically incompetent but dangerously psychotic demagogue is about to become the next president of the United States.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/55 "2016-11-17T02:09:33Z")

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[Mom who took a photo with Hillary Clinton while hiking is now getting death threats from Trump supporters](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/mom-who-took-a-photo-with-hillary-clinton-while-hiking-is-now-getting-death-threats-from-trump-supporters/#.WCu50HHZvF5.facebook)

> [@](#):
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> That was all it took for the alt-right to attack. Since the photo has gone viral, she’s been getting death threats and really wants the story to just “go away.”

[White man threatened for having black friends over: ‘We just cleared the White House of n\*\*\*\*rs!’](https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/white-man-threatened-for-having-black-friends-over-we-just-cleared-the-white-house-of-nrs/)

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> The note threatened, “Hey looser shortie (sic) we have just cleared the White House off (sic) n_ **s!!! Do not bring n** _s in our neighborhood — you f_ck Latinos now you f_ck n\*\*\*\*\*s. We will kill them. Natick is strictly white. Warning.”

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/56 "2016-11-17T03:26:47Z")

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So the OP, who can barely make a post about Hillary Clinton without using sexist terms, and then gets outraged at being called a sexist, is now really concerned about hate speech?

I can’t even track the levels of irony here.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/57 "2016-11-17T03:34:02Z")

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I really just wish you’d learn what hate speech is. And hate crimes, while we’re at it.

There was no hate speech in any of that. She did not attack anyone for their race or sex or gender, etc. She disagreed politically and used some insults. Insults you’ve had no problem dishing out yourself.

Here’s a hint: hate speech is not allowed in the Pit. So if it’s something that could be said here in the Pit, it’s not hate speech.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/58 "2016-11-17T03:34:30Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> So the OP, who can barely make a post about Hillary Clinton without using sexist terms, and then gets outraged at being called a sexist, is now really concerned about hate speech?
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> I can’t even track the levels of irony here.

[Over in Elections, he’s claiming that liberals are the only people who insult their political opponents.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19777558#post19777558)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/59 "2016-11-17T03:39:17Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Of course, your rants about Clinton did nothing to help depress liberal turnout

I doubt it did. He’s said before he doesn’t say any of this stuff in real life, and there wasn’t anyone here to convince.

See, Der Trihs is what Trump should be, just some harmless crank who says things. But Trump had rich parents.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-democratic-hate-speech-here/772197/60 "2016-11-17T04:01:12Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> That’s your opening example?

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> It was the inspiration for the thread. If I wanted to I could pull up a lot better examples just from this Board.

What’s your inspiration for characterizing Democrats as claiming to be pure and/or innocent?

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