# Post disrespectful summaries of well-regarded works you don't like

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 8, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076 "2009-06-08T07:04:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/1 "2009-06-08T07:04:25Z")

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So I’ve finally read _Davy_, by Edgar Pangborn. For those of you who haven’t perused the volume, it goes something like this:

> [@Edgar Pangborn](#):
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> blah blah blah SEX blah SEX blah blah SEX blah OPPRESSIVE RELIGION IS TEH SUXXOR blah blah SEX blah blah blah SEX blah OH NOES WE’RE LIVING IN A POSTAPOCALYPTIC WORLD IN WHICH NATURE HAS RECLAIMED MAN’S GREAT WORKS LIKE IN THAT OZYMANDIAS POEM AND SHIT blah blah MUSIC blah blah blah SEX blah SEX blah blah RELIGION IS THE OPIATE OF THE MASSES blah blah blah SEX blah FREE LOVE, BABY! blah blah blah MUSIC blah blah COMING OF AGE blah blah blah HEY LOOK AT ME IT’S THE MID-1960s AND I’M LIKE TOTALLY REBELLING AGAINST THE STYLISTIC CONVENTIONS OF THE JOHN W. CAMPBELL SCHOOL OF HARD SCIENCE FICTION WOOO!!! blah blah blah SEX blah SEX blah blah OPPRESSIVE RELIGION IS TEH SUXXOR IN CASE I HADN’T ALREADY MENTIONED THAT blah blah blah SEX blah NUCLEAR WAR IS TEH SUXXOR TOO blah blah SEX blah SEX blah blah blah SEX

Ye _gods_, this thing is dated.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/2 "2009-06-08T13:36:23Z")

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Do you mean this as a joke? Because, at face value, it’s a perfect example of a reader who completely misunderstood the point of a book, and whose knowledge of the period is less than rudimentary. It’s a brilliant riff on the idea that a reader’s limited experience and knowledge is the fault of the book.

So, I admire your sense of humor. I think you’re right in attacking that sort of ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/3 "2009-06-08T16:17:00Z")

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Ah, the good old “If you don’t like it, that just means you don’t understand it.” :rolleyes:  
Tell ya what: Why don’t you take this as an opportunity to describe why _Davy_ is so awesome? (FTR, I don’t actually think it’s bad qua bad as a book. OTOH, you can’t pretend that the thing ain’t dated like a polyester leisure suit.)

Alternatively, you could also perhaps post a disrespectful summary of another well-regarded work you don’t like…

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**Author:** ![raspberry\_hunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@raspberry\_hunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raspberry_hunter)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/4 "2009-06-08T16:37:58Z")

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Okay, I’ll play. Catcher in the Rye:

Holden Caulfield: whine whine whine whine LIFE SUX for misunderstood teenagers! whine whine You know what I hate, like, more than anything??? I hate hypocrites who whine!!!

(I know that’s part of the point, but it just didn’t do it for me. I even read it as an adolescent, but just could not ever sympathize in the slightest.)

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/5 "2009-06-08T17:17:59Z")

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Here’s the plot to “The Stranger” by Albert Camus

Oh, look Mom’s dead. (wandering around music) dum-de-dum-dum boring funeral dum-de-dum-dum-dum eating in a cafe dum-de-dum-dum-dum fucking my girlfriend dum-de-dum-dum-de-dum hey Ramond where you goin’ with that gun in your hand dum-de-dum-dum OW! The sun’s in my eyes! Whoops! Killed an Arab. Dum-de-dum-dum-dum stupid trial dum-de-dum Hey defense! Defense! How ‘bout objecting when they bring up my Mom’s funeral? No, huh? Dum-de-dum-de-dum-dum Don’t need no stinkin’ chaplin dum-de-dum oh, aren’t the stars pretty? dum-de-dum Meaning of life de-dum-dum (guillotine sound) ThhhhheeeeeoooooooooTWAWK! THE END.

(Actually, I don’t think the book gets as far as the guillotine, but I sure wished it had back in high school.)

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/6 "2009-06-08T17:24:06Z")

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From a thread in the Pit:

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> Originally Posted by\*\* Der Trihs \*\*  
> “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.” - John Rogers

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/7 "2009-06-08T18:15:36Z")

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I think I read “Atlas Shrugged” when I was around 14.

Any Shakespeare play:  
A bunch of people in weird clothes speaking weird English do stuff. Misunderstandings happen. There’s a swordfight. Everyone lives happily everafter (comedy)/everybody dies (tragedy). The end.

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/8 "2009-06-08T19:58:49Z")

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“Stranger in a Strange Land”

Lauded in its time, today it reads more hopelessly dated than Star Trek’s “Way to Eden” (Yaaaay, brother!) and is as earth-shakingly controversial as frosting Mini-Wheats on only one side.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/9 "2009-06-08T20:56:17Z")

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**Citizen Kane**

This guy nobody liked died and nobody missed him. Someone he never met gave him a truckload of money for no apparent reason when he was just a little kid with a sled. He blew all the loot on tacky statues no one could see, singing lessons for some bar girl who couldn’t hold a note, and a newspaper that pissed everyone off all the time. He ran for mayor and lost. He wrote a list of principles that he violated one at a time. And his last word, “Rosebud,” was… Oh fuck it. It really wasn’t that important.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/10 "2009-06-08T21:01:52Z")

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**Truman Show**

Some guy’s whole life is a tv show, he figures it out and he leaves for the real world where a surely much more interesting movie would be taking place had they bothered to show us that.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/11 "2009-06-08T21:10:05Z")

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**Moby Dick**

Gloomy young man named Ishmael seeks adventure on whaling ship. Finds weird roommate. Picks out Pequod ad on Craigslist. Receives symbolic warning (“You’ll be sorrry!”), ignores it. Captain turns out to be weird. Embarks on weird voyage. Captain gets even weirder. Ishmael discovers sensual delights of whale parts. Captain enters state of ultra-weirdness. A weird fish appears. Attempts are made to capture fish, who has another agenda. Nearly everybody dies, with the unfortunate exception of the exceptionally boring narrator, without whom we would not have wasted many hours trying to explain symbolism.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/12 "2009-06-08T21:11:57Z")

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**Fahrenheit 451**.

Society: Burning books is great! It’s totally fun, and a great thing to do! Yay burning books! There shouldn’t be any books! Thank God that unexplained event happened that led inexplicably to this dystopia where we all know how great burning all books is!

Fireman, who somehow got this job as a person who burns books: I wonder if burning books might be bad?

His boss: You’re in trouble!

Fireman: (successfully flees, outwitting a robot dog who’s fooled by the old ‘jump in the river and lose his scent’ bit)

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**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/13 "2009-06-08T21:15:51Z")

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_Blade Runner_

He’s a replicant too you fools!

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/14 "2009-06-08T21:20:46Z")

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Star Wars:

Whiny farmboy, military deserter, and smarmy crook help a paramilitary group commit treason.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/15 "2009-06-08T21:21:22Z")

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**Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde**

Utterson: I can’t figure out why Jekyll puts up with this Hyde fellow.  
Dr. Lanyon: I saw Hyde turn into Jekyll.  
Dr. Jekyll: Yep. I’m Mr. Hyde.  
Utterson: You coulda said something.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/16 "2009-06-08T21:23:33Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Star Wars:
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> Whiny farmboy, military deserter, and smarmy crook help a paramilitary group commit treason.

Wait..who’s the deserter?

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**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/17 "2009-06-08T21:28:47Z")

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Lord of the Rings:

A group of heroes try to destroy a magical ring to stop the forces of evil from taking over the world, but enough about that, let me spend the next couple of dozen pages to describe this lovely swamp.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/18 "2009-06-08T21:41:53Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Wait..who’s the deserter?

Obi-Wan. A stretch, to be sure, especially considering the later movies, but, Leah and Obi-Wan’s commentary about his history both suggest a deserter.

(And, yes, he had reason to desert, but the point is being disrespectful, not fair.)

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/19 "2009-06-08T21:42:09Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Wait..who’s the deserter?

Han Solo would be, but then isn’t he the smarmy crook?

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**Author:** ![abcdefz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@abcdefz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-disrespectful-summaries-of-well-regarded-works-you-dont-like/499076/20 "2009-06-08T21:44:05Z")

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Much of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s work:

Beautifully written observations which turn out to be largely wrong wrong wrong.

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