# Post five statements you truly believe but expect most of the board to disagree with.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 9, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427 "2014-06-09T19:02:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/61 "2014-06-10T08:56:22Z")

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1. Adam Sandler is the greatest, most successful filmmaker today.
2. The only reason men want sex all the time is because women don’t. If women bothered men for sex every 15 minutes, men would turn them down at least twice an hour.
3. Guns don’t kill people, God kills people.
4. Barack Obama will be the first, last, best, worst, tallest, shortest, longest/shortest serving, strongest, weakest, most/least effective black president in the history of the US.
5. One of the best kept secrets in the world is that there is one aphrodisiac that works on all women in every country in every culture in the world: Cash.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/62 "2014-06-10T09:30:07Z")

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> [@Martian Bigfoot](#):
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> “Perspective” doesn’t make you happy, it just leaves you staring into a black hole.

Unless of course one is Zaphod Beeblebrox.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/63 "2014-06-10T12:36:52Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> You provided an explanation that didn’t exactly articulate where the value/gain is.
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> Fans want a winner and to a lesser degree want to vote on the team colors. Seems like you want to emphasize the thing that fans in general consider less important, which doesn’t seem like it’s “for the fans”, kind of the opposite.

The gain is control. With control, the fans are competing and able to affect the team’s fortunes. Without it, the fans are just customers; thinking that it is their team is a delusion.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/64 "2014-06-10T12:44:31Z")

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1. Joss Whedon is grotesquely overrated.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/65 "2014-06-10T12:56:47Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> The gain is control. With control, the fans are competing and able to affect the team’s fortunes. Without it, the fans are just customers; thinking that it is their team is a delusion.

It’s not a delusion, it’s suspension of disbelief. Sports, after all, is a form of entertainment, and feeling loyalty to a team is no different from feeling loyalty to a character on a TV show. It’s pointless, of course, but it’s still fun.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/66 "2014-06-10T13:18:55Z")

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1. Most people are far more concerned with agreeing with whoever else happens to be in the room than actually holding an opinion. Watch any conversation. Someone makes a statement, and it doesn’t take more than the guy next to them to go “well…” for them to start backtracking and going “OK, well, but I only meant that…”

2. Women act like this more than men. A heck of a lot more.

3. Even Dopers do it.

4. I never do it, which is reason nr. 473 why I don’t have any friends.

5. There should be a standing brigade of clowns whose job it is to call people out on this, set off klaxons and sirens every time it is observed, and then pie the offender in the face.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/67 "2014-06-10T13:19:10Z")

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1. There are some experiences about which you should THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT before offering an opinion _if you have never been in the same situation_. Dire poverty\*, racism, and _ **parenting** _ fall into these categories. If you don’t have a child, please… just shut up before telling me how to raise my own. That two-year period where you took care of your sister’s kid for 3 hours every workday _does not qualify_. Thanks!

2. Football is a nasty, brutish sport which should die. I do know if I had a son, I would never, ever allow him to play the game.

3. Obama will go down in history as an “effective” President. Not in the top-10, probably, but no doubt in the top half.

4. Ben Bernanke, Tim Geitner, and Hank Paulson saved the global economy back in 2008-2009.

5. Comic book movies suck. There are too many of them, and people get WAY too involved in the story lines.

\*“Dire” doesn’t include that time you were in college and had to eat Raman noodles for a week. It does include that time you had to choose between medicine and food.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/68 "2014-06-10T13:30:12Z")

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1. _Citizen Kane_ isn’t all that.
2. A-1 Sauce makes just about any steak better.
3. JFK was among the ten best U.S. Presidents.
4. The death penalty, with appropriate legal safeguards, should remain a sentencing option in states where it has not already been abolished.
5. Religion has done and is doing, on balance, more good than harm in the world.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/69 "2014-06-10T13:40:33Z")

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1. Heavy Metal ballads should be illegal.
2. 2 or more bicyclers together qualify as a a vehicle. 1 lone bicycler does not. The lone bicycler is a pedestrian and should be penalized for jaywalking when holding up traffic.
3. Whenever the stay of an inmate given life instead of the needle exceeds the costs of an execution, that inmate should be moved to death row.
4. Liberals should just accept that conservatives know how to manage money. Some conservatives are actually not overzealous tea partiers and make sense.
5. Dogs rule. Your cat is stupid.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/70 "2014-06-10T13:42:56Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Unless of course one is Zaphod Beeblebrox.

…in an artificial universe.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/71 "2014-06-10T13:45:10Z")

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I’m not going to ask for a refund or anything, but several of these statements that you expect most of the board to disagree with seem like statements that most of the board would agree with.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/72 "2014-06-10T14:04:09Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> The gain is control. With control, the fans are competing and able to affect the team’s fortunes. Without it, the fans are just customers; thinking that it is their team is a delusion.

Ok, thanks for the response.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/73 "2014-06-10T14:23:52Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’m not going to ask for a refund or anything, but several of these statements that you expect most of the board to disagree with seem like statements that most of the board would agree with.

Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrongity-wrong. 🙂

(It’s sort of like those disclaimers: “Half of the contents of this book are nonsense. Unfortunately, I/we don’t know _which_ half.”)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/74 "2014-06-10T15:22:37Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’m not going to ask for a refund or anything, but several of these statements that you expect most of the board to disagree with seem like statements that most of the board would agree with.

True. Most of us (myself included) are approaching this as “if I make this statement, I will then have to constantly defend myself” and then ascribing this situation to “the most of the board.”

For example: my SHOCKING statement that Obama is an effective President. Most here would ignore (or agree), but I would expect to be immediately rebuffed by certain posters and, if I care to, spend half my life explaining myself.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/75 "2014-06-10T16:10:29Z")

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1. Religious leaders, each and every one, are shameless snake-oil salesmen who have found a way of manipulating people from behind a thin facade of good will.

2. Football and movie making are both businesses that profit from the crushed hopes of countless young people who followed the dream and been cast aside. Those industries both push the “follow your dream” message because it profits them to have a huge pool of hopefuls.

3. Gun violence in America is almost 100% the result of Hollywood’s (and TV’s, etc) fetishization of guns.

4. The US Constitution is designed to play ambious men against each other, to entertain them with a taste of power while preventing them from gaining too much, not to make lawmaking an efficient process. The process is delibrately cumbersome and should be made even more so.

5. _Pootie Tang_ was one of the best movies ever made. A work of genius what will never be fully appreciated, except maybe, one day, in France. Sa da tay!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/76 "2014-06-10T16:20:33Z")

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1. I agree with Agent Smith: humanity is a virus. The bigger problem is that it’s a virus that can think and it still insists on destroying its host.

2. Vegetables suck and there is no way I can choke down five fucking servings a day.

3. Republicanism, _in its current form_, is evil.

4. I am god’s gift to women, but the vast majority just don’t realize it.

5. Sometimes, a cat needs to be declawed.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/77 "2014-06-10T16:22:53Z")

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1. The _A Song of Ice and Fire_ storyline would be better if the screenwriters of the HBO series said “sorry, George” and forged ahead on their own as soon as the show hit the end of Book 5.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/78 "2014-06-10T16:26:49Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> 1. I agree with Agent Smith: humanity is a virus. The bigger problem is that it’s a virus that can think and it still insists on destroying its host.

The logical conclusion to this is that humanity should be exterminated and leave the Earth to the whales, the pine tree borer and the cockroach.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/79 "2014-06-10T16:29:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So what part of mandatory routine organ harvesting is a “donation”, then?

The part where they wait until you’re dead and not try to get organs while you’re still using them

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-five-statements-you-truly-believe-but-expect-most-of-the-board-to-disagree-with/690427/80 "2014-06-10T16:33:28Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> 1. Tattoos aren’t really that offensive
> 2. Pet ownership is more trouble than it’s worth
> 3. All things being equal, smaller breasts on women are more attractive.
> 4.

1. The vast majority of Christians don’t actually believe the whole resurrection, deity of Jesus thing. They may like the “fellowship,” or “message” of the church, but they’re not buying the actual tenants of the faith. They are just too weak to admit it out loud.

2. Large jury verdicts are an important tool to regulate corporate behavior.

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