# Post Presidential Trump: Will justice prevail or will we still have to deal with him? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 21, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542 "2020-10-21T22:50:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/61 "2020-10-23T14:49:48Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > DJT still seems to own a 757, but it doesn’t have the range to reach Russia or Dubai without first stopping in a less friendly venue where they probably would want to see a passport. Would someone who stays on the plane while it refuels have to show a passport at the intermediate stop? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/62 "2020-10-23T15:11:04Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Americans are still allowed to enter Mexico but I think Trump’s burned his bridges there. And Mexico is paying for it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/63 "2020-10-23T15:12:09Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > I pity the people who will one day become employees at the Donald J Trump Presidential Library. I think – like the Sarah Palin Library – it’ll be a nice, cozy tiny house … with a comfy recliner and a wood-burning stove. And a Bible that miraculously _is always_ upside down. Rather lovely, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/64 "2020-10-23T15:27:43Z")
He could stay out of the country while he makes a plea deal for no time in jail. If no deal then he does not come back. ---
**Author:** ![DreamsOfACheetah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@DreamsOfACheetah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreamsOfACheetah)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/65 "2020-10-23T15:56:45Z")
Wonder if North Korea would take him in? 😜 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/66 "2020-10-23T16:51:09Z")
It wouldn’t take _all that much_ work for him to be a serviceable body double for Kim Jong Un. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/67 "2020-10-23T17:23:16Z")
“Loyal minions, I want to introduce you to my new security minion, Donald Trump. His job is to protect me from assassins by drawing their fire.” “But Dear Respected Leader, how can he protect you? He doesn’t look anything like you.” “He doesn’t have to look like me. He just has to stand on the stage near me. Which of the two of us do you think people are going to shoot?” ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/68 "2020-10-23T17:28:31Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > It wouldn’t take _all that much_ work for him to be a serviceable body double for Kim Jong Un. KJU apparently apologised to the masses recently for his failings, which may not appeal to YouKnowWho. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/69 "2020-10-23T23:55:52Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > I pity the people who will one day become employees at the Donald J Trump Presidential Library. As they used to say about GWBush, it’ll contain all 6 books that he owns - as soon as he’s done coloring them in. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/70 "2020-10-24T00:15:18Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I think – like the Sarah Palin Library – it’ll be a nice, cozy tiny house … with a comfy recliner and a wood-burning stove. > > And a Bible that miraculously _is always_ upside down. > > Rather lovely, actually. A few years ago I visited the open-to-tourists residence of deceased dictator Chiang Kai-shek. There wasn’t the slightest hint I could see concerning Chiang’s massive crimes, even though he jailed members of the party then (and now) controlling Taiwan’s presidency and legislature. Trump’s library would be similar to the Chiang home/shrine for many decades to come. Suppose that DJT manages to retain the presidency, and then use his growing powers of incumbency to put a family member in place as his successor. Likey, no. Still, is is possible! This would result in a taxpayer funded library/shrine for the Trump personality cult. But what if he loses? He’ll do everything possible to keep the National Archives from having anything to do with his legacy. And there will, for many decades to come, be enough Trumpists to fund and staff a Trumpist shrine. One possibility is a fundraising campaign where his supporters buy Mar-a-Lago from the Trump Organization. Even if he goes to jail (which I doubt) there is no democratic way to stop this. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/71 "2020-10-24T01:30:42Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > I pity the people who will one day become employees at the Donald J Trump Presidential Library. Why? You think they might become addicted to sharpie-huffing? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/72 "2020-10-24T13:11:48Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > I pity the people who will one day become employees at the Donald J Trump Presidential Library. I would pity two other groups: One is the tourists facing what likely will be one of the highest admissions fees in the world. The other consists of plumbers and electricians trying to get paid for the repairs they make. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/73 "2020-10-25T04:58:48Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Is everybody forgetting that right now, _no_ American can leave the country, because other countries aren’t taking us? Once Trump isn’t president, the same would apply to him. This is not correct. There are quite a few countries where tourists from the U.S. are still welcome, many with very few restrictions or health documents required. [Here is a list,](https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/where-can-americans-travel-right-now-a-country-by-country-guide) and it is more extensive than you would expect. Turkey is on the list and I would think it would be easy to get to Russia from there if desired. This is what it says about getting into Turkey: > Upon arrival in Istanbul, passengers at the airport undergo a temperature check with a thermal camera, [according to the airport](https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/PjVqCOYGY6HAZJRA8h0t9zZ?domain=istairport.com). Visitors are not required to show any health documentation to enter or leave the country. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/74 "2020-10-25T14:18:12Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Is everybody forgetting that right now, _no_ American can leave the country, because other countries aren’t taking us? Once Trump isn’t president, the same would apply to him. The rules are totally different For Trump. If Biden decides to act the dictator, and issues a lawless passport revocation executive order, no one will take Trump. Defying a new superpower leader is too risky. As I’ve said before, this would violate Biden’s hands off pledge and is unlikely given Biden’s admirable commitment to the rule of law. My guess is that the UAE would take him because of sympathy for a fellow-autocrat, and because Trump already has two luxury facilities there. He probably wouldn’t go, though, because they might, with exquisite politeness, confine him to said facilities and/or censor his Twitter presence. As for Russia, that is an even scarier place for him. From an internet freedom, personal liberty, and heath care quality standpoint, Israel would be best. And frequent visits from the Kushners would be a plus. But Netanyahu seems to have gone cold on Trump lately. ---
**Author:** ![agzem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a8b319/32.png) [@agzem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/agzem)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/75 "2020-10-25T14:32:05Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Better for Putin to work his bitch slowly and then have him go all in when the gig is up. Sounds like Putin is ready to work with a Biden administration: " **Putin Says He Wants to Work With Biden, Claims ‘Shared Values’ Between Democrats and Communism**" > **[Putin Says He Wants to Work With Biden, Compares Democrats to Communism](https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-says-wants-work-joe-biden-claims-shared-values-between-democrats-communism-1537501)** > > U.S. intelligence agencies have said that Russia is attempting to "denigrate" Biden ahead of the election. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/76 "2020-10-25T14:59:31Z")
Regarding the immediately previous post: It may be that Biden has uttered a few idealistic statements roughly tracking with those of communist leaders who made phony humanitarian pledges while intending the opposite. However, I find Trump much closer to real communism. DJT wants to do the leadership of the Democratic Party the same that Lenin’s red terror did to the leaders of old regime, and to those who wanted to replace it with real democracy. This is communism (and Putinism): [Trump demands Barr lock up his foes](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389) ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/77 "2020-10-25T16:21:09Z")
I imagine he is also eligible for Slovenian citizenship based on his marriage to Melania. Would Slovenia issue him a passport? That’s another story. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/78 "2020-10-25T17:04:49Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > But, honestly, if Trump bails he will almost certainly do so before he leaves office. Maybe take Air Force One to Russia on January 19 and then just stay. That would be the smart move. He owns his own 757. I Think it may not have the legs to get to Europe though without possibly refueling in Iceland and then possibly Ireland to get to to Russia. If you don’t get off a private plane, do you need a passport? Who would stop him? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/79 "2020-10-25T17:28:54Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > I imagine he is also eligible for Slovenian citizenship based on his marriage to Melania. Would Slovenia issue him a passport? The White House should hire you for a bit of consulting if DJT loses next month. This tells me you are on target: [Slovenian PM: Go Trump!](https://www.politico.eu/article/slovenia-trump-prime-minister-endorsement/) Slovenia is, I’ve been told, one of the most pleasant and prosperous countries in Eastern Europe. And I checked the range of a 757-200 against the distance from New York to Ljubljana. His own plane can, just barely, make it in one hop. Beautiful! The big problem may be that the extradition treaty seems to cover some items the New York State authorities are looking into. See Article II sections 6 and 7: [http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Slovenia%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf](http://www.mcnabbassociates.com/Slovenia%20International%20Extradition%20Treaty%20with%20the%20United%20States.pdf) Nothing Trump can do is risk free. But he may be popular enough there that the elected government would refuse extradition. Then, no more Trump in the news. Yay! ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/80 "2020-10-25T19:28:03Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > I imagine he is also eligible for Slovenian citizenship based on his marriage to Melania. I’m not sure why you’d imagine that; not many countries naturalize solely on the basis of marriage to a citizen, and Slovenia is no exception. The best his marriage to Melania nets him is a slight reduction in the mandatory residency period before a citizenship application can be considered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542.md?page=5)