# Post Presidential Trump: Will justice prevail or will we still have to deal with him? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 21, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542 "2020-10-21T22:50:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/81 "2020-10-25T21:16:31Z")
I didn’t necessarily mean that he would be IMMEDIATELY eligible for citizenship, just that it would give him the ability to live there and start whatever the citizenship process might be. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/82 "2020-10-26T16:52:02Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I predict that Trump will live out his days and run out the clock. He will never see the inside of a jail cell. He will not flee the country. Even as an ex-president, he will wield awesome power over a significant number of Americans and he will use that power to protect himself. He will suffer some financially, but will still live a more luxurious lifestyle than you or me. This is likely true - he’d only flee the country if he was _definitely_ going to go to jail, and even then he’d probably just move between his properties elsewhere on the assumption that extradition is a pain in the ass for any country doing it. Dying in luxurious exile is better than dying in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Wrenching\_Spanners](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecb155/32.png) [@Wrenching\_Spanners](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wrenching_Spanners)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/83 "2020-10-26T17:54:55Z")
I’m not sure he’d have a right to citizenship, but would instead have a right to remain based on his human right to be with his family. Slovenia is in the EU, and falls under the European Convention on Human Rights, which includes the “Right to respect for private and family life”. Of course that assumes that Melania would want to go to Slovenia with him. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/84 "2020-10-26T18:35:48Z")
Surely he’d have an even better claim to British citizenship based on his mother? ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/85 "2020-10-27T06:04:32Z")
Not necessarily, depending on her status at the time of his birth, and on whether the law at that time allowed for her citizenship to pass automatically to him (and I suspect it didn’t). Another possible bolthole, should it be necessary, is North Cyprus - within the orbit of Erdogan (especially since their recent presidential election), no extradition treaties, nice climate, and no doubt plenty of opportunities (and people with no-questions-asked funding available) for flashy property development. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/86 "2020-10-27T20:48:34Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I have no right to enter Canada. And, right now, they won’t let me do it, or at least won’t let me do it unless I agree to conditions that would be unacceptable to me (quarantine). Just for the record, they won’t let you do it. My Canadian citizen son did just visit us after a 2 week quarantine, but a non-citizen cannot. They certainly have taken passports away from people in the past without any due process. I think Trump will go to Florida and NY state will spend the years between January 20 and whenever trying to extradite him. In the end, the Supreme Court will rule that cannot by a vote of 6-3. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/87 "2020-10-28T00:25:16Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Surely he’d have an even better claim to British citizenship based on his mother? See the wise last post before this. Britain would extradite quicker than Florida. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/88 "2020-10-29T13:09:49Z")
> [@Eva\_Luna](#): > > I didn’t necessarily mean that he would be IMMEDIATELY eligible for citizenship, just that it would give him the ability to live there and start whatever the citizenship process might be. **Melania:** Goddammit, do I have to wait for _that_ to be all finished before I can divorce his sorry orange ass?? ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/89 "2020-10-29T13:44:37Z")
Yeah, I don’t feel sorry for her. She made her bed, quite literally, and has been lying in it for quite some time. They seem to have a fairly transactional relationship. I feel sorry for their kid, who had zero choice of parents. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/90 "2020-10-29T13:49:09Z")
There’s a chance for a happy ending for Baron. His father goes to jail, and his mother raises him in Slovenia. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/91 "2020-10-29T14:56:54Z")
Perhaps he can build a tower in Mogadishu and take up residence there. I agreed with Ford’s decision to pardon Nixon, we didn’t need to put the country through a criminal trial at that time. But I feel quite different now, we need to make an example of Don the Con for any other wanna be dictators out there. I sincerely hope he winds up in a federal supermax prison and stripped of every cent of wealth. Ditto for his grifter family with the exception of Barron. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/92 "2020-10-29T17:12:59Z")
Nixon was before my time but that’s exactly how I feel. Nixon paid what for him was the ultimate price: loss of the presidency and disgrace. Trump knows nothing about disgrace; he needs to do time. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/93 "2020-10-29T18:36:03Z")
Not sure about Nixon, but Trump was a criminal way before he got to the White House. Making an example out of Trump may help keep other crooks from running for office. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/94 "2020-10-30T00:20:56Z")
Trump should live out his days in solitary confinement (or what’s worse, Twitter oblivion) in a super-max – But even if not, we should still throw all the books at his entire retinue of enablers, Barr chief among them. For this, we DO have precedent from the Nixon era. See: [John Mitchell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell). ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542/95 "2025-12-13T18:22:48Z")
I’m skeptical that Baron will deserve our sympathy for long. That podcaster he got daddy to talk to was slimey the best I remember. I’m hazy on the details as so much garbage has rained down on us since festering asshole trump came down that accursed escalator. Barron has been raised by two of the most pathetic excuses for humanity possible: self centered, greedy, arguably evil and feckless. Look at the older ones. Their mother was a better person than melania is, and they are as worthless, greedy, and grasping as daddy. Every one of them lies like they breath. The whole lot are doomed to a shallow, meaningless existence, wallowing in their schemes, psychopathy, and ill gotten money and influence. That is until (hopefully) justice catches them and thy skip the country or end in some cushy prison. Tl;Dr I suspect he’ll suck like th rest of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-presidential-trump-will-justice-prevail-or-will-we-still-have-to-deal-with-him/923542.md?page=4)