# Post Your Local Gun Incident Here **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 27, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296 "2012-12-27T17:11:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/1 "2012-12-27T17:11:39Z")
I admit I see merit to both sides on the gun control debate. Once a freedom is taken away, it is almost impossible to get that freedom back. Indeed, America is all about the freedom to live one’s life as one sees fit. I don’t want to regulate what my neighbor does and I’d prefer he not come over here and tell me how to live my life or tell me what I can and cannot do. But how can we ignore the national news and the mass gun violence being shown with an alarming degree of regularity? What I would like to see posted here is your local gun incident, the event that probably doesn’t make the national news but occurs near enough to make a difference in your neck of the woods. While I suspect, as the media leads us to believe, that there is a numbingly higher toll of gun violence compared to positive gun news—perhaps there are enough positive gun examples to justify the current freedoms we have for gun ownership without much (or any) further regulation. Example: This past summer, just a few miles from my own home,[this happened:](http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/article_142199d7-9583-5c98-b98e-ab22cab080a5.html) Had these men not had a gun with them, both likely would have been killed or at least severely injured. On the other hand, this is in our local paper’s today— and prompted this thread:[Murder-suicide](http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/article_28a18e8e-4fcc-11e2-b226-001a4bcf6878.html) Murder is rare here. But it is the local headline today. I don’t think this crime is likely to get much notice outside of Charlottesville. So if a gun incident happens in your area and you care to post it, please do. We have a wide cross section of the country (and a good bit across the world) here. Maybe we can learn something from local gun incidents without the blaring saturation coverage of mass crimes typical of national media. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/2 "2012-12-27T18:08:17Z")
All news is national news on our little island, though the news rarely spreads beyond our shores. **Case 1** In [this incident](http://www.compasscayman.com/story.aspx?id=25796) from 2010 a burglar was not deterred by being on an electronic monitoring restriction. He tampered with the monitoring device and was breaking into a home when he was shot dead by the licensed firearm owner who lived there. **Case 2** In [this incident](http://www.compasscayman.com/caycompass/2012/12/27/Murder,-firearm-charges-sent-to-Grand-Court/) from a couple days ago a man is facing murder charges. The accused is also charged with possession of an unlicensed firearm. That is the most recent story using the search term “firearm” in our local paper. **Case 3** And [this recent court case](http://www.compasscayman.com/caycompass/2012/12/12/12-years-in-rape-of-ex-girlfriend/) saw the conviction of a rapist. The victim testified that the rapist had a gun in his pocket when he forced his way into her residence, “but the judge ruled that this evidence was uncorroborated and contradictory.” The victim also testified that her assailant had a knife in the bed where the assault took place. “At the sentencing hearing, [the judge] noted that [the defendant] had nine previous convictions for assaults of some type, albeit not sexual. He also had drug offences.” The rapist was convicted but sentenced to only 12 years, far short of the maximum. The defense lawyer noted in mitigation that the accused “did not strike the woman or threaten to kill her and there was no evidence of a long-term harmful effect.” The prosecuting attorney told the court that “the woman did not want to be responsible for sending someone to prison for such a long time, in the event he came back out and harmed her.” \ Even though the judge reportedly “had observed the woman’s demeanour closely and there was nothing to suggest she was lying;” and even though the judge seemed to believe the defendant forcibly entered the home of the victim and raped her; the judge decides not to believe the victim’s testimony that the defendant had a firearm. :smack: To the defense attorney: The 1950’s called. They want their rape defense back. WTF is this, “At least he didn’t threaten to kill her, your honor. No long term harm done.” crap?\ And the prosecutor deserves a special mention for not pushing harder for a stronger sentence because the victim is afraid of retaliation. Hello!? Sounds like a _great_ reason to lengthen his incarceration. \ ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/3 "2012-12-27T18:49:17Z")
[Here’s a story from York, Virginia, just last month:](http://wtkr.com/2012/12/06/sheriff-says-he-plans-to-honor-autozone-hero-for-taking-action-against-fake-beard-bandit/) > [@](#): > > While the AutoZone in York County was being robbed by the Fake Beard Bandit, Devin went to his car, got his gun and came back to confront the robber. > “I thought what a shame this guy has really gone above and beyond. I mean what else could you ask an employee to do for you?” says Diggs. > The sheriff is among thousands who believe AutoZone should review that policy. > Daniel posted on NewsChannel3′s Facebook page: “The employee was not breaking company policy until he feared for his own, and his manager’s safety. At that point, he left the store in order to save his boss’ life.” > On [wtkr.com](http://wtkr.com) Doug wrote, “Shame on you for sticking to a corporate policy instead of making exceptions for heroic actions like this one.” > “Would he be wrong by not doing anything by taking no action? No, that’s an acceptable approach. I think that’s what AutoZone doesn’t understand. There’s more than one right answer,” says Diggs. > He’s even planning to honor Devin for taking action against this serial robber responsible for more than 30 robberies on the Peninsula over the last year. > “We plan on giving him an award, you know, a Sheriff’s Citizens Accommodation Award. We do that occasionally when a citizen does something above and beyond, and I think he stepped up,” says Diggs. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/4 "2012-12-27T20:22:35Z")
There was the well-publicized mall shooting in Portland before Christmas: two people killed, a third wounded. The guy’s Bushmaster jammed, which gave people time to scatter, or the death count would likely have been higher. There was a man kidnapped and shot in Vancouver. He managed to escape and find help. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/5 "2012-12-27T20:30:45Z")
Here in Topeka, a 22 year old guy, who’d been convicted of burglary, and had several other crimes to his record. and therefore wasn’t supposed to have a firearm, shot and killed two cops. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/6 "2012-12-27T20:36:29Z")
Three incidents of note have occurred in the past 4+ months, though two of them received a lot of attention. The first was the Sihk Temple shooting. The second was the ex-husband of a salon employee going to the business and killing three (?) people before killing himself. The third just occurred a few days ago. A rookie police officer was found dead after multiple gun shots. She hadn’t responded to calls from I assume the precinct hq, so other officers tracked her down. Yesterday, her husband was brought into custody, and today he’s been charged. This will be interesting because he’s a former Marine who served at least two tours in Iraq, and it wouldn’t be surprising at all to hear he’s had severe ptsd. > **[Husband is charged in shooting death of Tosa officer](https://archive.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/husband-of-slain-tosa-officer-to-be-charged-officials-say-ek8614b-184926151.html/)** > > Benjamin Sebena, a wounded Iraq war veteran who told investigators he had been stalking his wife for days, was charged Thursday with the Christmas Eve shooting death of his wife, Wauwatosa Police Officer Jennifer L. Sebena. ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/7 "2012-12-27T21:10:32Z")
Police: Woman Shot Intruder 9 Times In Self Defense [http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/police-woman-shot-intruder-9-times-in-self-defense/nFB7g/](http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/police-woman-shot-intruder-9-times-in-self-defense/nFB7g/) Shooting death of ex-boxer called self-defense > **[FOX 5 Atlanta](https://www.fox5atlanta.com)** > > Atlanta breaking news, weather, and sports from FOX 5 Atlanta, WAGA, FOX 5, Atlanta news, Atlanta weather, Atlanta sports, Georgia news, Good Day Atlanta, FOX 5 Storm Team, FOX 5 I-Team, FOX 5 News, High 5 Sports. Atlanta police: Robbery suspect shot and killed by intended victim [http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/atlanta-police-robbery-suspect-shot-and-killed-by-/nTfk2/](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/atlanta-police-robbery-suspect-shot-and-killed-by-/nTfk2/) Police: Man killed in self-defense shooting [http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/police-man-killed-self-defense-shooting/nPjGd/](http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/police-man-killed-self-defense-shooting/nPjGd/) Now, this being Atlanta, we have plenty of murders, robberies, rapes, and more, all using firearms. Let’s focus though, on the one area of Atlanta where criminals know their victims **will not be armed**. Georgia Tech is a large university situated within the city limits of Atlanta, GA. It’s not located in what you might call a “nice neighborhood”. As a school property in Georgia, only LEO are allowed to carry or possess firearms. Period. Tech students are generally well off. Plenty of laptops, Iphones, Ipads, money, and more are there for the taking. All one needs to do is accost any given student or group of students with a gun, and you’ve got some good loot, guaranteed. It’s easier than shooting fish in a barrel, because fish move a little, the refraction of light and so forth… Robbing Tech students on or near campus is so easy a child can do it. [http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=152021](http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=152021) [http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=176571](http://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=176571) > **[Georgia Tech student robbed at gunpoint Wednesday](https://patch.com/georgia/midtown/georgia-tech-student-robbed-at-gunpoint-wednesday)** > > Victim allegedly held up outside a student resident hall in one of two campus crimes reportedly committed Wednesday that Georgia Tech police is investigating. > **[Georgia Tech student robbed at gunpoint in campus dorm room](https://patch.com/georgia/midtown/georgia-tech-student-robbed-at-gunpoint-in-campus-dorm-room)** > > Victim awakened early Sunday morning to find two suspects tampering with his laptop [http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/3-georgia-tech-students-robbed-at-gunpoint/nQWjy/](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/3-georgia-tech-students-robbed-at-gunpoint/nQWjy/) [http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/08/two-ga-tech-students-robbed/](http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/03/08/two-ga-tech-students-robbed/) [http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/3-teens-arrested-in-attack-on-tech-student/nQHK7/](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/3-teens-arrested-in-attack-on-tech-student/nQHK7/) It’s an almost daily occurrence, and has been for years. Guns are a common tool, but not the only one. Atlanta’s crime problem is fueled by a culture of violence, acceptance, and apathy in the black community. This is what needs to be addressed, not the tools. ---
**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/8 "2012-12-29T02:13:22Z")
Wake Forest, N.C. — Authorities said Friday that a 12-year-old Tarboro boy who was killed while hunting with his family in Wake Forest was accidentally shot by his uncle. …preliminary findings show 30-year-old Jason xxxxxx accidentally shot his nephew, James, with a 12-gauge shotgun during the excursion. A spokesman for the agency said Jason had an “improperly acquired” hunting license and had not taken a mandatory free hunting education course. He was not charged Friday. James, who had hunted since he was 4 years old, was about 100 yards in the woods when the shooting occurred. “He loved to hunt. He just went hunting yesterday, actually. He said it was so fun,” said his cousin. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/9 "2012-12-29T02:48:15Z")
In Oakland, about 600 guns were turned in at buy-back operations, for $200 apiece. The event was funded by a $100,000 donation from a local medical marijuana dispensary. http:/ /www.postnewsgroup.com/publishedcontent/2012/12/21/sf-oakland-gun-buybacks-in-wake-of-connecticut-tragedy/ ---
**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/10 "2012-12-29T02:57:23Z")
I live close enough to one of the USA’s top “[murder capitals](http://www.businessinsider.com/what-happens-to-a-city-when-the-money-runs-out-2011-4)” that hearing gunfire is not even noteworthy. There was an incident last year where an elderly woman shot and killed an intruder, and more power to her, I say. However that’s overshadowed by the hundreds of lethal shootings - almost all by people who used unregistered/stolen/illegally owned firearms - around here. Of note: Hunting is _extremely_ common here in SE Michigan and it’s pretty normal for people to own at least a rifle that they use for hunting. Most people I know have guns for hunting, come to think of it. However people who own and use firearms for hunting aren’t typically involved in gun crimes, as far as I know. I didn’t post links to “gun incidents” in my area because they are so common and almost all involve thugs using unregistered/stolen firearms to kill people. Flint, Michigan, yo. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/11 "2012-12-29T04:12:35Z")
Here’s a [fresh](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/25/1-killed-1-wounded-in-seattle-bar-shooting/)one from about a mile away in upscale Bellevue WA (Seattle suburb). One killed, one wounded in some kind of altercation. Alleged perp had been previously convicted in the manslaughter beating death of a street performer when he was a juvenile. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/12 "2012-12-29T16:47:00Z")
[A homicide about two weeks ago.](http://www.sj-r.com/breaking/x1233662491/Dec-16-Brandon-Court-homicide-is-crime-of-the-week) At Springfield’s worst apartment complex, in Springfield’s worst neighborhood. IIRC, Springfield averages about 10-12 homicides per year; most are with guns. Springfield’s most “famous” homicide (it wound up on _Dateline_ or somesuch) involved someone being bludgeoned to death with a hammer. > **[Mark Winger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Winger)** > > Mark Winger (born November 26, 1962) is a former nuclear power plant technician from Springfield, Illinois. He was convicted in 2002 of the 1995 murder of his wife Donnah Winger, an operating room technician, and Roger Harrington (born 1967). Winger had married Donnah Winger (née Brown, born 1963) in 1989. > His Case is featured on the Season 3, Episode 8, titled "Rotten to the Core", from the Show, Deadly Sins. > On August 23, 1995, Donnah Winger was driven from St. Louis International Airport to... ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/13 "2012-12-29T17:09:29Z")
Yesterday, the [500th murder victim in my city for the year](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50310457/ns/local_news-chicago_il/t/mayor-th-murder-unfortunate-tragic-milestone/#.UN8jQazZeSo) was found. Not \*all \*of them guns, but most of them. Doesn’t even make the front page in the local papers anymore. Have to scroll down most of the first page of google to find a local report. So, um. Yeah. Guns are already more or less illegal here. Doesn’t seem to stop a damn thing. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/14 "2012-12-29T18:55:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Police searching for two suspects > The owner of a downtown Landrum business was attacked during the early morning hours of Saturday, March 31, but she fought back, firing a gun at the two suspects. > The owner of Cakes and Confections 4U in Landrum said she was exiting her store around 1 a.m. when she was attacked by two men. > She said the men attempted to sexually assault her before she pulled a gun out and fired at them. The suspects ran away on foot as the owner ran to the police station nearby. > Landrum Police Chief Tim Edgens said the department called for the help of the Spartanburg County Dog Tracking Team, which tracked the suspects for about ¼ of a mile before losing the scents. > The business owner, who wishes to remain unnamed, said she was working on an order late Friday night, left the store in her car and remembered she forgot her umbrella. She said she turned around, pulled up to the back of the store and left the car running, with her purse and briefcase still inside. She said she had her 32-caliber pistol in her purse, but when she put items in the trunk, she retrieved it and put in the front passenger seat. She said she doesn’t know why, but she grabbed the gun when re-entering the store and put it in her back pocket. > “Thank God I put that gun in my back pocket,” she said. > She said she then got the umbrella, which was on the front porch landing, and said she remembers seeing flashes of shadows, but didn’t think anything of it. > “I locked the door and when I turned around they were right on me,” she said. “One hit me in the jaw three times.” > She said the two kept saying for her to go in the building but she refused and kept asking what they wanted. The suspects ripped her necklace and earrings out and tried to pull her ring off her finger, she said. At some point, she hit one of her assailants with the umbrella and must have held onto the umbrella through the attack because she was still carrying it when she arrived at the police station a little later. > She told them she would do whatever they wanted, and one of them grabbed her shirt, she said. After fighting with the two for eight to 10 minutes, she said she remembered she had the gun in her pocket. She told them if they wanted money she had some in her back pocket and reached around and grabbed the gun, she said. One assailant grabbed at the gun but stepped back, she said. > “I just aimed and fired,” she said. “If I hit him, it was from the waist down.” > The two took off running, she said. > She said she ran to the police station shaking with the gun in her hand and officer Tony Snow, “who was awesome,” she said, took her inside the station before trying to locate the suspects. From [Landrum business owner shoots at assailants | The Tryon Daily Bulletin](http://www.tryondailybulletin.com/2012/04/02/landrum-business-owner-shoots-at-assailants/) ---
**Author:** ![dexter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dc4da7/32.png) [@dexter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dexter)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/15 "2012-12-29T19:50:40Z")
More of a “lack of” story. The result might have been just as bad if the woman had armed herself, but without it, she was at the mercy of a madman. [http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/slain-woman-predicted-her-own-death/nTgj4/](http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/slain-woman-predicted-her-own-death/nTgj4/) ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/16 "2012-12-29T21:55:57Z")
Is this a local gun incidents thread or cherry pick successfully used a gun against attackers or would have successfully used a gun against attackers if laws on ownership we’re not restricted? I can certainly cherry pick kid brings a gun to school and accidently shoots a classmate or guy goes crazy with a gun and blows away a few people at random. (Both by the way happened in the Seattle area in the past year). ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/17 "2012-12-29T22:24:32Z")
I thought it was a “post ‘positive’ uses of firearms,” as in, people using them in self-defense or to stop a greater crime, but on rereading the OP, it specifically says: > [@](#): > > What I would like to see posted here is your local gun incident, the event that probably doesn’t make the national news but occurs near enough to make a difference in your neck of the woods. So, instead of what I posted (which was about as positive a story as I could find for the Bay Area), I should have posted the link instead where the police busted up a funeral for a gang kid who got shot in San Francisco; they found two people on parole who were armed with handguns and others who were performing a variety of crimes just by being out in public. Oh, and race. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/18 "2012-12-29T22:54:15Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > Is this a local gun incidents thread or cherry pick successfully used a gun against attackers or would have successfully used a gun against attackers if laws on ownership we’re not restricted? > > I can certainly cherry pick kid brings a gun to school and accidently shoots a classmate or guy goes crazy with a gun and blows away a few people at random. (Both by the way happened in the Seattle area in the past year). I picked a story that is emblematic of just about every gun-related story that has ever happened in Springfield, for as long as I can remember. There has doubtless been the odd tragedy (someone shoots their self accidentally; someone goes psychotic and murders innocent people; etc.), but as far as I can tell, 99.8% gun-related incidents in Springfield since I’ve lived here have been your typical urban, bad-neighborhood type thing. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/19 "2012-12-29T22:56:18Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > Is this a local gun incidents thread or cherry pick successfully used a gun against attackers or would have successfully used a gun against attackers if laws on ownership we’re not restricted? > > I can certainly cherry pick kid brings a gun to school and accidently shoots a classmate or guy goes crazy with a gun and blows away a few people at random. (Both by the way happened in the Seattle area in the past year). This is destined to be a cherry-picking thread. You can identify the ideology of the poster simply by what they post. Did you expect anything else from a gun-related thread? ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296/20 "2012-12-29T22:57:20Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > This is destined to be a cherry-picking thread. You can identify the ideology of the poster simply by what they post. Did you expect anything else from a gun-related thread? Can you tell me mine, please? 'Cause I honestly can’t figure it out myself. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-your-local-gun-incident-here/645296.md?page=2)