# Poster on tips to avoid sexual assault. Does it provide good advice, or does it blame the victim? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 9, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835 "2013-08-09T20:44:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/101 "2013-08-13T20:50:39Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Best to be viewed as a parody, since women seem to want more rights to wear less and at the same time stricter laws on sexual assault. :smack: Right. But, if you are in a strip club that has a no touch policy, you can have a completely naked stripper right in front of you and touching her is still assault and can get you arrested and/or thrown out of the club. Even if a stripper is naked right in front of you, it is still your responsibility to control yourself like a human being. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/102 "2013-08-13T23:23:00Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > And also to not invite strangers into their house, especially if you’re intoxicated. How did he know she wasn’t planning to do something to him that was worse than stealing from him? He didn’t. “You might become a victim anyway” or “you can’t be careful all the time” is a really bad argument against being careful. If someone tould you to beware of pickpockets in an area would you reel off a long list of all the different crimes you could become a victim of anyway, or do they expect you to hide in a cave all your life? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/103 "2013-08-14T00:01:50Z")
Ladies (and some men?) all i’m saying is what cop friends keep telling me and my wife, and the whole neighborhood, maybe twice a week at least: for a crime to be committed, there must be **desire and opportunity.** So treat both equally, meaning deprive the perp of both as much as you can. I didn’t come here to argue about women’s need (or wanting) to look desirable. If rapists have a problem with the way women dress, imagine the problem most women face. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/104 "2013-08-14T01:15:17Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Ladies (and some men?)… [In its latest report on sexual assault, the Pentagon estimated that 26,000 service members experienced unwanted sexual contact in 2012, up from 19,000 in 2010. Of those cases, the Pentagon says, 53 percent involved attacks on men, mostly by other men.](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/us/in-debate-over-military-sexual-assault-men-are-overlooked-victims.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/105 "2013-08-14T01:46:42Z")
There are more potential victims who are male in the service, that’s not surprising. But man-to-man mechanics are somewhat different. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/106 "2013-08-14T02:56:35Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > [In its latest report on sexual assault, the Pentagon estimated that 26,000 service members experienced unwanted sexual contact in 2012, up from 19,000 in 2010. Of those cases, the Pentagon says, 53 percent involved attacks on men, mostly by other men.](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/us/in-debate-over-military-sexual-assault-men-are-overlooked-victims.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) That’s because those service women are dressed _so_ sexily, don’t ya know. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/107 "2013-08-14T10:26:43Z")
It sounds like the boys are long overdue for some posters in the john. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/108 "2013-08-14T10:49:43Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > It sounds like the boys are long overdue for some posters in the john. Since someone mentioned how the poster was condescending on women, and someone compared it to the cartoons aimed at kids about preventing fire and crime… I think they should be put in boys’ locker rooms and bathrooms in schools, private or public, beginning at least in middle school, if not earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835/109 "2013-08-14T14:14:12Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Since someone mentioned how the poster was condescending on women, and someone compared it to the cartoons aimed at kids about preventing fire and crime… I think they should be put in boys’ locker rooms and bathrooms in schools, private or public, beginning at least in middle school, if not earlier. Probably. We teach our little kids about good touch/bad touch - but we really drop it quickly. Then we let them loose in a middle school culture that has a lot in common with Lord of the Flies. We reward our girls for being nice to everyone (while at the same time being backstabbing bitches to anyone lower down the totem pole) and we reward our boys for being crude. Or rather, they reward each other and we really don’t take steps to stop it. Then we are surprised when eighteen year olds join the military and sexually abuse each other. Shocked! At that point, posters in the ladies room are too little, too late. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poster-on-tips-to-avoid-sexual-assault-does-it-provide-good-advice-or-does-it-blame-the-victim/665835.md?page=5)