# Posters you can't stand. Pit rules f\*\*\*ing apply! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003 "2008-12-20T00:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/221 "2008-12-20T22:42:26Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Which lies am I guilty of you sniveling little shit stain on humanity. Lol. I thought you were done with me. Anyway, see my previous post, liar-boy. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/222 "2008-12-20T22:49:22Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Dude, you’re usually sharper than this. You claimed that tighty righties are polite, I provided counter examples. You painted with the broad brush not me. It just so happens that the people you painted were you and your friends. The fact is some are and some aren’t. **Just like some “tighty righties” are smart and some aren’t**. You claimed that they as a group were polite, I disagreed with counter examples. Don’t over think it, it ain’t rocket surgery…I deny that such is the rule so I am obviously not saying that the exception disproves the rule. We could go on all day with example after example it is clear that as a rule \*\*you and your ilk \*\*have no claim to superior politeness just like democrats have no claim to infidelity. \*\*You guys \*\*do seem to have the market cornered on closeted self hating homophobes getting caught in flegrante delicto… > > [bolding mine] Do you not see how you’re being hoist on your own petard here? You claim, in effect, that the behavior of ‘tightie-righties’ can’t be generalized, and then you turn around generalize about us yourself, as shown in the bolded parts above. If there is no distinction that can be drawn about conservatives, why use phrases like ‘tighty-righties’ and ‘you and your ilk’? Now, having said that, I can tell you as a matter of broad experience that people with leftie political alignment are far less concerned with, nor likely to adhere to, conventions of politeness and civilty and manners when out in public or even among themselves than are conservatives. This is a primary reason why conservatives are called tighty-righties. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/223 "2008-12-20T22:52:24Z")
I add XT who is long winded ,spells well and is always wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/224 "2008-12-20T22:53:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But having said that, I can tell you as a matter of broad experience that people with leftie political alignment are far less concerned with, nor likely to adhere to, conventions of politeness and civilty and manners when out in public or even among themselves than are conservatives. This is a primary reason why conservatives are called tighty-righties. Do you really think it’s polite to state, repeatedly, that everything that has gone wrong with America in the last 50 years is the fault of liberals? No, it’s not. It’s rude, insulting, and not based in any demonstrable fact. I don’t know how you can not see that, after a 10 or so page Pit thread about it. It’s ironic that you’re accusing askeptic of painting with a broad brush when you do it pretty much every time you talk about politics. In fact, I think the only brush you possess is about 3 miles wide. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/225 "2008-12-20T23:02:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Now, having said that, I can tell you as a matter of broad experience that people with leftie political alignment are far less concerned with, nor likely to adhere to, conventions of politeness and civilty and manners when out in public or even among themselves than are conservatives. This is a primary reason why conservatives are called tighty-righties. The past campaign season would seem to put the lie to this. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/226 "2008-12-20T23:05:25Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Do you really think it’s polite to state, repeatedly, that everything that has gone wrong with America in the last 50 years is the fault of liberals? It’s neither rude nor impolite; it’s a simple statement of fact. The difference in life culturally then vs. now can pretty much be summed up thusly, and I don’t believe conservatives are responsible for it: [Fifties](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKjL9u6_wSk) [Now](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC8GTmX2G5w&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/227 "2008-12-20T23:07:51Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The past campaign season would seem to put the lie to this. It’s so rude to point out that **Starving Artist** has only a passing acqaintance w/ reality. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/228 "2008-12-20T23:13:01Z")
I don’t think i’d call it hate, but i’m not a fan of **elucidator**. I’m not always a fan of **Shodan’s** driveby postings either, or \*\*Der Trihs’ \*\*automatic contempt for religion, but they do stick around and argue for what they believe. With **elucidator** it seems to be the wit and that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/229 "2008-12-20T23:16:42Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The thing is, most posters, when they sign off, may or may not be returning to the thread. IMO, it’s to the posters to whom they are responding that the “Regards” or whatever are intended, not the board, forum or the thread itself. Frankly, had **Shodan** not already adopted Regards himself I would probably have used it a great deal myself. To \*\*us tighty-righties \*\*(a misnomer if ever there was one), politeness is a virtue…and occasionally a barb. 😉 > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Do you not see how you’re being hoist on your own petard here? I was just using your own term. > [@](#): > > You claim, in effect, that the behavior of ‘tightie-righties’ can’t be generalized, and then you turn around generalize about us yourself, as shown in the bolded parts above. If there is no distinction that can be drawn about conservatives, why use phrases like ‘tighty-righties’ and ‘you and your ilk’? Notice the part you bolded where I said some are and some aren’t that is not most reality based people consider generalizing. > [@](#): > > Now, having said that, I can tell you as a matter of broad experience that people with leftie political alignment are far less concerned with, nor likely to adhere to, conventions of politeness and civilty and manners when out in public or even among themselves than are conservatives. I can see how people dealing with you in real life would tend to dispense with politeness a person can only take so much bull shit… > [@](#): > > This is a primary reason why conservatives are called tighty-righties. No, the primary reason I did it in this instance is because you refered to youself that way. And now we have come full circle… ---
**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/230 "2008-12-20T23:17:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s neither rude nor impolite; it’s a simple statement of fact. Allow me to add **Starving Artist** to my list for not knowing the difference between fact and opinion and for having a tenuous grasp on reality. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/231 "2008-12-20T23:20:19Z")
I think it’s very helpful that several people have stepped up to \*illustrate \*why people don’t like them. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/232 "2008-12-20T23:21:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Gee, I dunno, guys, hell of storm brewing up. Are you sure you have _precisely_ the right port? Graham’s LBV, feller. It can be improved on, but you have to spend a fair chunk o’ change to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/233 "2008-12-20T23:21:36Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The past campaign season would seem to put the lie to this. > [@wring](#): > > It’s so rude to point out that Starving Artist has only a passing acqaintance w/ reality. I can guarantee you that if you were to go to anyplace where large numbers of people hang out (fairs, malls, Wal-Mart, etc.), and somehow have the ability to separate the people there as conservative vs. liberal, you will find the majority of crassness, vulgarity and trailer-trash type of behavior coming from the liberal contingent. You will also find worse, sloppier, and/or intentionally off-putting modes of clothing and a generally more rude, beligerent and entitled attitude coming from the lefties as well. Not every liberal behaves this way of course, but among those who do the pro-liberal lifestyle predominates. Thus my claim that conservatives in general are more polite and well-mannered than liberals, election season or no. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/234 "2008-12-20T23:22:45Z")
I can make assertions without providing evidence, too. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/235 "2008-12-20T23:24:18Z")
So, how many people came in hoping that they’d be mentioned? ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/236 "2008-12-20T23:29:04Z")
Any attention’s good attention. Why, I posted early on specifically to prompt a mention! (Though I couldn’t really expect one; I wasn’t able to even bring myself to apply properly unrelenting snark to my denunciation of **Skald the Rhymer** ) ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/237 "2008-12-20T23:30:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s neither rude nor impolite; it’s a simple statement of fact. It is both rude and impolite, as well as false. Also, your opinion =/= fact. Your uncanny ability to confuse the two makes it so much easier to disregard your arguments. You do your opponents’ work for them. Thanks for that. > [@](#): > > The difference in life culturally then vs. now can pretty much be summed up thusly, and I don’t believe conservatives are responsible for it: How pleasant it must be for you to believe that your side has a complete lock on being righteous, polite, and correct, and that your enemies are to blame for everything. What a relief not to be able to see shades of grey, and to absolve yourself and those who agree with you of responsibility for the way the world is. You’re unable to see the subtleties of life, but I bet you don’t even miss them. After all, they’d require to you to take some responsibility for the world being an imperfect place, and that would be too complex and uncomfortable. Always fun talking to you, SA. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/238 "2008-12-20T23:31:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I can guarantee you that if you were to go to anyplace where large numbers of people hang out (fairs, malls, Wal-Mart, etc.), and somehow have the ability to separate the people there as conservative vs. liberal, you will find the majority of crassness, vulgarity and trailer-trash type of behavior coming from the liberal contingent. You will also find worse, sloppier, and/or intentionally off-putting modes of clothing and a generally more rude, beligerent and entitled attitude coming from the lefties as well. Sorry, but I’ve seen NASCAR fans in their native environment. ---
**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/239 "2008-12-20T23:35:43Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > Why, I posted early on specifically to prompt a mention! (Though I couldn’t really expect one; I wasn’t able to even bring myself to apply properly unrelenting snark to my denunciation of **Skald the Rhymer** ) Here, I’ll bring up something I’ve noticed in your posting that I guess could be described as a vague and mild annoyance. You seem to be unable to get your first post right in your response to a GC thread. You’ll make a post, edit it, and _guaranteed_ you’ll have followed it up immediately to clarify something or the other, possibly editing this second post and sometimes including additional posts. It’s not something I _hate_ per se, it’s more something I found humorous once I noticed the trend. Maybe click preview a few times and iron things out next time? ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/240 "2008-12-20T23:36:37Z")
Surely, you mean GQ? ETA: Or perhaps GD. Damn… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=13)