# Posters you can't stand. Pit rules f\*\*\*ing apply!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003 "2008-12-20T00:14:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 20

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Apex\_Rogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@Apex\_Rogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apex_Rogers)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/381 "2008-12-22T06:40:35Z")

</div>

**Least Original User Name Ever** , for his performance in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=495578). Simply mind boggling how he could so completely miss the point and so adamantly advocate an inadequate solution to the OP’s complaint.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/382 "2008-12-22T07:27:42Z")

</div>

This is kinda weak, but **Anaamika** , you’re Indian. We get it. No need to mention it every other thread. Other than that, you’re a dear. 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/383 "2008-12-22T07:39:09Z")

</div>

> [@brazil84](#):
>
> * * *
> 
> **another poster, talking about marriage and mental illness** :
> 
> OF COURSE mental illness can _and should_ be a dealbreaker for some people. More so than other illnesses, in fact.
> 
> **me** :
> 
> I agree 100%. Marriage is difficult enough with someone who’s sane.
> 
> * * *
> 
> Gosh, what a terrible, horrible distortion! What a filthy lie!!! How can anyone bear this terrible horrible misinformation!!
> 
> :rolleyes:

I was going to let it pass, but since you bring it up again, fine, here’s the full volley.

1. The discussion of the thread is about whether the OP’s boyfriend is **crazy**.

2. People bring up that there are a variety of mental illness (or problems, since you love nit-picking on the actual phrase) that are not classified as crazy.

3. A poster chips in that mental illness is a **bigger** deal-breaker in marriage than ’ normal’ illness.

4. You agree with that 100%, comparing two group - sane vs…another group. The ‘another group’ (we call it that for now) would have bigger problems with marriage, which is the claim of the poster in point 3, and you agree with it 100%

5. The poster in point 3 could be, very likely to be (hey, he didn’t quantify) be all sort of issues like depression and other chemical imbalance on psychotic drugs. Hence:

6. From reading, you are claiming that “people with mental illness (such as depression, etc.) are harder to work with in a marriage than those with other ‘physical’ illness)”

7. When I ask you about it, you say that mental illness means ‘significant’ mental problems; whereas the word significant never appears at all [ETA - in the original thread] and you seem to be claiming (repeated) - “people with mental illness (such as depression, etc.) are harder to work with in a marriage than those with other ‘physical’ illness)”

8. That is the cite I want. Do you have stats to show that marriage with problems with say, two-timing, affairs and etc. are better than those with marriage involving depression?

9. Seeing that you tag a ‘significant’ later on (also significant mental issues == mental illness, which you never did quantify in the original thread), you seem to be redefining terms to justify yourself. Hey, I define depression, even shyness, as mental illness too. My definition doesn’t gels with you. So when do you want the cage fight? Weapon of choice?

ETA: Eh, this is officially falling into the ‘not worth my time’ category. Here’s how I see it; have fun!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/384 "2008-12-22T07:45:38Z")

</div>

Just for completion sake, point 8 should read:

1. That is the cite I want. Do you have stats to show that marriage with problems with say [ETA - and with heart disease, terminal cancer] are better than those with marriage involving depression?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/385 "2008-12-22T09:40:12Z")

</div>

> [@Ogre](#):
>
> Actually, over the years, I’ve discovered that I can’t stand 3/4 of the people who are willing to spend days and days of their precious lives arguing about stupid shit on the internet. I definitely used to be one of those people, but I eventually realized that it takes a pretty arrogant, self-important son of a bitch to try to drive his or her opinion into other people’s skulls through sheer will and a keyboard.
> 
> I suppose that means I now can’t stand most of the SDMB.
> 
> Such is life.

Oh, I’d much rather they do it on the internet than in real life, like most of them do!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/386 "2008-12-22T12:22:09Z")

</div>

> [@CrazyChop](#):
>
> 1. That is the cite I want. Do you have stats to show that marriage with problems with say, two-timing, affairs and etc. are better than those with marriage involving depression?

Actually, the cite you should be reasonably asking for is whether marriages where one of the partners is mentally ill are less stable, in general than marriages where on partner has a a chronic physical problem – an amputated hand or foot, for example.

If you agree that this is the issue, I will try to find a cite. When I made my statement, I was going by my general knowledge of human relations and dealings with people who are crazy (or insane. or mentally ill. or whatever term you prefer.) However, it’s an interesting question to me and I will try to see if there’s any research out there.

> [@](#):
>
> 1. Seeing that you tag a ‘significant’ later on (also significant mental issues == mental illness, which you never did quantify in the original thread), you seem to be redefining terms to justify yourself.

That’s nonsense. You seemed to be questioning my use of the word “sane,” so I offered a definition. I used the word “significant” the first time I defined it and have not waivered from that position.

But let’s do this: Ignore everything I said in this thread about “significant” and “mental problems.” I will define “sane” to mean “lacking in mental illness.” My points stand.

> [@](#):
>
> Hey, I define depression, even shyness, as mental illness too. My definition doesn’t gels with you.

So what? For purposes of discussion, you can define “mental illness” any way you like.

> [@](#):
>
> ETA: Eh, this is officially falling into the ‘not worth my time’ category. Here’s how I see it; have fun!

Bye.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/387 "2008-12-22T14:36:00Z")

</div>

> [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](#):
>
> You are being a complete dick to continue doing this when asked not to and it’s childish.

This is completely ridiculous. You are the one being childish.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/388 "2008-12-22T14:47:40Z")

</div>

no u

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/389 "2008-12-22T16:16:43Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Meanwhile, all the best to you and yours…hate off!  
[/QUOTE]

The hate was never on Red, least not from my perspective. And the best to you and yours as well. 🙂

-XT

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/390 "2008-12-22T16:43:25Z")

</div>

Now, isn’t that just Christmas! A horn-handed son of the proletariat and a running dog jackal of the ruling class, getting along nicely! Hey, Santa! Maybe time for an upgrade for these two, put then on the “nice” list, or at least to “naughty” and off the “shoot on sight!” list.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/391 "2008-12-22T16:55:43Z")

</div>

> [@elucidator](#):
>
> Actually, to address the point: Yeah, **Rev** , there are times when I post for no other purpose than to hand somebody a giggle. Usually, I have a point. Mostly. Sometimes, anyway.  
> ’  
> I don’t see anything wrong with that. I’m not gonna see anything wrong with that.

'Sfine by me. At least (unlike a certain feline-monickered Doper) you don’t post catpix links. 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/392 "2008-12-22T17:01:32Z")

</div>

> [@elucidator](#):
>
> Can’t remember who it was, but he was some guy putting together an anthology of American humorists (Volume one is Twain, volume two is everybody else…) and he wrote a **forward** about why he didn’t include Dorothy Parker, because he was expecting to, but when he read her stuff he couldn’t find anything that was actually funny.

Oh, now you’ve done it! Just when I was feeling all warm and fuzzy about you, you done gone and committed one of my petulant peeves. Shoulda oughta been “foreword” ya ex-Texan icicle!

You may now commence to hate on me for pitpickery.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/393 "2008-12-22T17:06:39Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=ETF]  
Sfine by me. At least (unlike a certain feline-monickered Doper) you don’t post catpix links  
[/QUOTE]

God, no! I _hate_ cute! “Cute” is a perversion of the instinctual affection mechanism that the Goddess installed to keep us from roasting our kids on a spit. I mean, if we didn’t have that “awwwww! adorable!” hard-wired into our brains, the little shits would never make it past the “sleep through the night” phase.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/394 "2008-12-22T17:22:42Z")

</div>

> [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](#):
>
> Until this thread, I’ve always read it as **pseudotron ruber ruber** , and thought perhaps it was something sci-fi. If nothing else, this thread’s been educational.

Oh. Wow. I come in here to see if anybody’s talking about me me me me me, and I actually learn something. Who’da thunk it?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/395 "2008-12-22T17:26:56Z")

</div>

> [@Q.E.D](#):
>
> 8 pages and not one mention? This is total bullshit!

Ditto. Unless I _was_ mentioned, since I’m not reading 8 pages.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/396 "2008-12-22T17:45:27Z")

</div>

> [@elucidator](#):
>
> God, no! I _hate_ cute! “Cute” is a perversion of the instinctual affection mechanism that the Goddess installed to keep us from roasting our kids on a spit. I mean, if we didn’t have that “awwwww! adorable!” hard-wired into our brains, the little shits would never make it past the “sleep through the night” phase.

Heh. Then you’re probably still pissed at me for explaining lolcats to you with links. 😛

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/397 "2008-12-22T19:46:20Z")

</div>

> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
>
> This is kinda weak, but **Anaamika** , you’re Indian. We get it. No need to mention it every other thread. Other than that, you’re a dear. 😉

Sorry. Really, I always worry about it, so I’m glad you said something. I can’t help it, sometimes, it’s a core part of my persona, but I’ll definitely try to rachet it back a lot.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/398 "2008-12-22T19:50:28Z")

</div>

[QUOTE=ETF]  
Heh. Then you’re probably still pissed at me for explaining lolcats to you with links  
[/QUOTE]

Hardly matters, really. My beemish boy, the Err Apparent, delights in informing me of “cultural developments”.

“Hey, Dad, cool car commercial music, huh? One of your old-timey bands, right?”

“Called ‘The Who’, son, now be quiet, I’m trying to find some clean coal for your Christmas stocking…”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/399 "2008-12-22T19:58:06Z")

</div>

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
>
> I really would like to go into more detail regarding some of the other things you’ve said. I’ll try to get back later and do so.

Oh, god. Please don’t. Truly, seriously, I implore you to not do so. I really don’t need to bang my head against a wall right now. I don’t agree with you; I will never agree with you; 99.99999% of the posters here and the free world don’t agree with you. I wish you happy holidays and all that, but I will not go farther into the crazy and am sorry I stuck my hand in at all.

Gah. What’s a girl got to do around here to get out of the crazy? Call 911 someone, please!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/400 "2008-12-22T20:04:57Z")

</div>

> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
>
> One word:Lions.
> 
> You’re done.
> 
> 🙂

They are not my fault. I ran out of gas. I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. My friend came in from out of town.Someone stole my car.There was an earthquake, a terrible flood,locusts.They are not my fault. I swear to god.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=19)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=21)
