# Posters you can't stand. Pit rules f\*\*\*ing apply! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 20, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003 "2008-12-20T00:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/541 "2008-12-31T05:59:00Z")
Okay. (So, are you busy this weekend? 🆒) ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/542 "2008-12-31T06:15:23Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > I thought so too and jumped in, ready to dispute **BlueCanary** ’s use of it too; however, I left my mind open and looked around first and almost every cite I found (see later ones posted) that characterized general usage agreed with him(?). > > It didn’t seem to have anything to do with it being a Britishism either. > > I’m back out. **mind snapped ignorantly shut like a fucking bear trap** No. I cannot accept this. Bible thumper is the term that general usage agrees with, and I shall assert this doing not a single iota of research. I shall, however, consider the idea that it is perhaps a Britishism. The fact that I would disagree with you on this so vehemently, despite having trusted your judgment in matters far more important to me, should tell you just how stubborn I aim to be on this, 5. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/543 "2008-12-31T06:50:28Z")
Wait
Did someone change the Wiki entry for [‘bible basher’](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-onVffkthSY)? I notice it says last updated on Dec. 21, and this thread was started Dec. 19. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/544 "2008-12-31T08:51:45Z")
> [@Vox Imperatoris](#): > > But I’m not having a face-to-face conversation with you. I’m sending you the equivalent of letters over the internet. Wow, you’re incredibly dense, aren’t you? Try reading this again: > [@me](#): > > By the way, Vox Imperatoris, there’s a reason signatures are only allowed once per thread. Using a signature in your posts is deliberately skirting that rule and reeks of an unrealistically high sense of self-esteem on your part. (“I know they don’t want annoying signatures popping up over and over, but mine must be OK because I came up with it!”) Do you have a response to this, or will you just concede that you’re being a dick by deliberately antagonizing a substantial portion of the board with an annoying habit? > [@Vox Imperatoris](#): > > In return, Starving Artist, I must say that you have elaborated out on what I have vaguely thought in my mind for a long time, but I’d probably take it back even further than that, to the Victorian Era. I mean sure, it wasn’t all sunshine and roses, and there have been countless improvements (I sure as heck wouldn’t want to actually be forced to live there with that period’s technology), but at least people who went wild and crazy, like Benjamin Franklin (and, yes, I know that he is not actually in the Victorian Era), had the sense to keep it private. How strange; you decry the lack of high technology in the Victorian era and then praise the suppression of impropriety in that time period, a side effect of that very lack of technology. Pop quiz: Why didn’t Ben Franklin have a Blogspot account or cruise craigslist for kink partners? They didn’t have Blogspot or craigslist in his day. Sorry, that was a tough one. > [@brazil84](#): > > I actually don’t engage with this poster any more because of his or her dishonest conduct. I am male, if that helps. > [@brazil84](#): > > In a debate over high speed rail in California, I expressed skepticism that the proposed high speed rail line in California would attract a lot of customers. Hostile Dialect insisted I had expressed certainty that the rail line would be unsuccesful. I pointed out that I had clearly indicated I was “skeptical,” and asked Hostile Dialect to back up his or her claim with a quote. Of course he or she could not, and instead made vague references to the “tone and timbre” of my arguments. I suppose this fits some strange definition of not-engaging with me. Anyway, I’m not playing this game. I’m going to pull off my underwear and do the exact same thing, except that in my case, I’ll have a little something to show for it when I’m done. > [@Starving Artist](#): > > Nor are they typical. > > The women in the first photo look like modern day girls dressed up in what they think was typical of women in the sixties, and the women in the second photo look like models (not that there’s anything wrong with that ) in casual European dress. **ivan astikov** is British, not that you’d know that from his location tag or anything, and fashion is probably a little different over there. Of course, in order to accept this explanation, you’d have to concede that the world extends east of Maine and west of Hawai’i. > [@Vox Imperatoris](#): > > Yes, I thought it was quite vulgar. _badum-chi_ For what it’s worth, I laughed out loud. But then, I would. > [@guizot](#): > > But it’s important that English didn’t have an “official” dictionary until long after places like Spain and France. Am I missing something? I’ve never heard of an English-language analogue to Madrid’s Royal Academy, and even if “the Queen’s English” is a much more literal turn of phrase than I thought, it seems to have no real effect on modern usage. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/545 "2008-12-31T09:33:13Z")
I feel like I’m hijacking the thread here, but for what it’s worth: \*\* Der Trihs\*\*, I think you are capable of decent conversation and I’d like to sit down with you and have one some time–coffee, drinks, whatever. But I don’t ever–_ever_–want to talk to you on the subject of religion. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/546 "2008-12-31T12:00:16Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > \*\* > Der Trihs\*\*, I think you are capable of decent conversation and I’d like to sit down with you and have one some time–coffee, drinks, whatever. But I don’t ever–_ever_–want to talk to you on the subject of religion. Me neither. And I agree with the basic premise of his position–without all the bpbpbpbpbpbp. ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/547 "2008-12-31T12:39:58Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#): > > > [@brazil84](#): > > > > I actually don’t engage with this poster any more because of his or her dishonest conduct. He does that to you too? He does it to me too. I didn’t realize I was not the only one on his list. I’ll post several cites showing what he posted is dead wrong and all he has to say is he won’t engage me. Like that is going to make what I just posted go away. What a moron. > [@What is a US Representative doing running a blockade anyway? (Gaza)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-us-representative-doing-running-a-blockade-anyway-gaza/479224/42): > > > [@What is a US Representative doing running a blockade anyway? (Gaza)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-a-us-representative-doing-running-a-blockade-anyway-gaza/479224/38): > > > > For reasons expressed elsewhere, I don’t engage with this poster. > > Who cares? It seems he can get around the “don’t tell who is on your ignore list” rule as long as he doesn’t use the word “ignore” and uses “engage” instead but the idea is the same. > [@Protesting my warning](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-my-warning/455049/36): > > > [@Protesting my warning](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-my-warning/455049/35): > > > > Just to finish this thought, I’m pretty much outta here. Not 100% sure, but anyway, I’ll give it a shot. > > I’m pretty sure I speak for everyone when I say, you’re a fucking failure, a genuine imbecile and a worthless contributor to this message board. Please never come back. 😃 What a tease. He won’t keep a promise either. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/548 "2008-12-31T15:33:09Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > I feel like I’m hijacking the thread here, but for what it’s worth: > \*\* > Der Trihs\*\*, I think you are capable of decent conversation and I’d like to sit down with you and have one some time–coffee, drinks, whatever. But I don’t ever–_ever_–want to talk to you on the subject of religion. Funny, while I could talk religion with him (and I am not even an atheist, just an agnostic) I could not talk military matters or American History with him. His anti-American and anti-military rants make this veteran ex-Republican’s blood boil. I actually enjoy his fluffy contributions to the board though in forums like cafĂ©. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/549 "2008-12-31T17:13:32Z")
And I’m an atheist that agrees America’s done just as much bad as good in the world, but he angers me with his broad brush on both religion and our history. He does a good job of pissing off pretty much everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/550 "2008-12-31T17:40:39Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Tell you what, I have no idea if the moderators are able to look at user searches, or if only admins can do that sort of thing, but assuming that someone can, I hereby grant them permission to do so, and to publicly announce when and what I searched for. If they can and will do so, I’ll bet you **five hundred dollars** that they will find that I searched for your stance on communism, McCarthy, and liberalism between **Guinistasia** and my posts. SDMB staff does not have ready access to this type of information (Jerry keeps the logs), and even if we did we don’t wish to be dragged into a dispute between posters. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/551 "2008-12-31T18:02:29Z")
Look, folks, I hate to beat folks in the head with the one topic in this thread that no one cares about except me, but I have to fix the link in my last post because it goes to a you tube link for some reason. I tried to look up ‘bible basher’ in wiki. It came up [with this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_thumper). I just wanted to fix the link in case anyone is interested in coming back to defend this idea that ‘bible basher’ is the same as ‘bible thumper’. I maintain that in the U.S., bible thumper is what the term is called. Come and get me, 5-4-Fighting!! ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/552 "2008-12-31T19:08:36Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Look, folks, I hate to beat folks in the head with the one topic in this thread that no one cares about except me, but I have to fix the link in my last post because it goes to a you tube link for some reason. I tried to look up ‘bible basher’ in wiki. It came up [with this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_thumper). > > I just wanted to fix the link in case anyone is interested in coming back to defend this idea that ‘bible basher’ is the same as ‘bible thumper’. I maintain that in the U.S., bible thumper is what the term is called. Come and get me, 5-4-Fighting!! I’m not sure how your link disproves anything I’ve posted, including the preponderant evidence of several different cites. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/553 "2008-12-31T19:15:10Z")
I also find it interesting that the wiki entry I originally posted was amended to delete the synonymity of bible basher and bible thumper _after this discussion began_. I don’t have a dead horse in this hunt to bash or thump, I just posted what I found after seeing the original issue raised and posted cites supporting what I found and stated, as the Dope likes to see – wiki was not the only one, nor was UrbanDictionary. And, 'Zinga – I HATE YOU!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/554 "2008-12-31T19:24:25Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > I’m not sure how your link disproves anything I’ve posted, including the preponderant evidence of several different cites. Alright! You are here. Good to see you, my friend. I don’t cite wiki because I think it is a terrific cite, I only cite it because it has been cited. But if bible basher is the more accepted term, then why does the wiki article change it to bible thumper? That is actually an honest question, I have to admit. I am honestly admitting that I am too dim to understand why they would do that, unless bible thumper is the more common term. Also, when you said there are no indications of it being a britishism, I decided to look at the other cite you posted. Urban dictionary seems to agree that ‘bible thumper’ is the more accepted term (way more responses, way more thumbs up for the that term meaning religious zealot). Bible basher in UD does come up with thumbs up, but if you read the entries, there is some brit talk going on. One of the entries even mentions that ‘most Americans are bible bashers’. So I think that indicates it is more of a British thing. The bad news is, I have no doubt you are going to eat me alive in this debate, huh? The good news is, I did open my mind the teensy bit to do at least the tiny amount of research to actually read the links provided. So there’s that. ETA: 5, I hate you too, daddy! Listen, I admitted that the wiki link was last updated on the 21, after your original posts. I am so freakin’ proud of my research skillz on this thing! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/555 "2008-12-31T19:25:21Z")
Well, just use your commone sense. Bashing is typically associated with inflicting harm, as in “gay bashing”. Thumping is typically associated with proud strutting, as in “thumping his chest”. Jesus, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/556 "2008-12-31T19:42:22Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Well, just use your commone sense. Bashing is typically associated with inflicting harm, as in “gay bashing”. Thumping is typically associated with proud strutting, as in “thumping his chest”. Jesus, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist. Discussed already. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/557 "2008-12-31T19:43:13Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > Discussed already. Then why are you still blathering about it? ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/558 "2008-12-31T19:47:26Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Then why are you still blathering about it? Errr
I actually brought it back up. I wanted to be right. I literally called him by name to come discuss it. I was having fun. So calm the fuck down. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/559 "2008-12-31T19:47:46Z")
Tradition! ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003/560 "2008-12-31T20:16:50Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Errr
I actually brought it back up. I wanted to be right. I literally called him by name to come discuss it. I was having fun. So calm the fuck down. Exactly. And so did **Spectre of Pithecanthropus**. > [@Liberal](#): > > Then why are you still blathering about it? Have you read the thread? If not and you don’t know what’s going on, you’re out of line. And fuck you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/posters-you-cant-stand-pit-rules-f-ing-apply/478003.md?page=29)