# Pot smoking neighbors - what to do?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808 "2010-11-16T01:13:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/161 "2010-11-19T21:22:43Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Thought you were gonna go with [this one](http://www.conelrad.com/daisy/index.php)…

[Or](http://waffyjon.blogspot.com/2007/06/genre-movie-image-of-day-frankenstein_02.html) [these](http://www.conelrad.com/daisy/images/frankenstein_plays_along.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/162 "2010-11-19T21:26:49Z")

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Oh **come on**.

I haven’t had neck bolts for _years_.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/163 "2010-11-19T22:25:11Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> I think neither is all that common - when I smoked, I never had anyone _tell_ me my clothes stunk of smoke, and I _know_ that they did.
> 
> I suspect most people would be even more reluctant to tell a person that they stink of weed, for the very reason that smoking it is illegal, and so it is effectively an accusation of criminal behaviour - and one which cannot easily be proved.
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> But just because people aren’t telling you that your clothes smell, doesn’t mean that they don’t smell. Those who smoke themselves, or who are otherwise habituated to it, are simply that - habituated. They don’t notice it unless the smell is really extreme. The un-habituated are _considerably_ more sensitive.
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> When I was a teen, and pretty well all of my friends lived in tiny basement apartments, the "thing’ was to disguise the smell of pot by - burning incense. This did not really work, what you got was a sickly mixture of stale pot and incense, but it provided plausible deniability. 😃

OMG, that reminds me of when I was around 13 and it seemed like all the cool kids were lighting incense and talking about it and so I thought it’d be cool too. It always just smelled like burning and flowers, so I gave up quickly. I just totally forgot about this phase and because no one does it anymore I never made the incense/pot connection until this post.

Now I know why Mom wasn’t keen on the idea of me using incense in my room. I was so naive, I just went down the list of ‘cool’ kids in my head and yeah they were all totally pot smokers.

I’m so happy **PSXer** is here now to re-route the totally innocent and unworldly vibe off of me.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/164 "2010-11-19T22:31:20Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> OMG, that reminds me of when I was around 13 and it seemed like all the cool kids were lighting incense and talking about it and so I thought it’d be cool too. It always just smelled like burning and flowers, so I gave up quickly. I just totally forgot about this phase and because no one does it anymore I never made the incense/pot connection until this post.
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> Now I know why Mom wasn’t keen on the idea of me using incense in my room. I was so naive, I just went down the list of ‘cool’ kids in my head and yeah they were all totally pot smokers.
> 
> I’m so happy **PSXer** is here now to re-route the totally innocent and unworldly vibe off of me.

Well, to be fair your mom may have been worried more about you burning the house down. 🆒

Funny story though =)

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/165 "2010-11-19T23:28:02Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> OMG, that reminds me of when I was around 13 and it seemed like all the cool kids were lighting incense and talking about it and so I thought it’d be cool too. It always just smelled like burning and flowers, so I gave up quickly. I just totally forgot about this phase and because no one does it anymore I never made the incense/pot connection until this post.
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> Now I know why Mom wasn’t keen on the idea of me using incense in my room. I was so naive, I just went down the list of ‘cool’ kids in my head and yeah they were all totally pot smokers.
> 
> I’m so happy **PSXer** is here now to re-route the totally innocent and unworldly vibe off of me.

My mother had a hilarious story of pot-smoking innocence - she was a ceramic artist in the early 70’s, and probably the only one who didn’t smoke pot - she had a booth on the Yonge St. Pedestrian Mall, which was a major hippie hangout. Her neighbour was a guy who went by the name of “Mr. Together Leather” (me made leather goods), and he ordered a big order of several hundred “beads” of a particular size from my mom …

… which, as it turned out, were _tokestones_. She did not figure this out until many years later.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/166 "2010-11-20T00:23:30Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> So, we’ve had the obligatory opening lines of “Oh noes, it’s the Diogenes Show.” **Guinastasia’s** dug into her archives (or is that stalker-chives) with links. Sigh, just let me know when my cue comes up to hear the fantasized sexual positions regarding myself and Dio. I’ll be in my trailer until then.

Oh, here comes **Dio** ’s #1 Fan. **Hentor** , last time I checked, he’s married.

And if I didn’t post links, you’d tell me I was full of shit and ask for cites. In this case, he’s not exactly an unbiased source.

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/167 "2010-11-20T02:39:33Z")

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I endured that, plus crack or some other chemical that burned my eyes, complained to the property mgmt (owners of hundreds of large apt. complexes like mine). They said they could do nothing unless they had evidence.

They plugged pipe holes in the wall between our and their kitchens (brand new building!) and they had their pinochle rent-a-cops search the smoker’s pad, finding “no evidence”, after the 3rd complaint. They reeked of pot smoke when they knocked on my door late one night (after my last complaint) so I knew I would get nowhere with that. (They searched my place when I was not there, too.)

Five years ago, after 6 years there, I moved out on the same day that the neighbor got evicted after being arrested for dealing. I’m now in a detached single-family house 1.2 miles from work and only the hay fever and pine pollen bother me now. Move to a non-shared dwelling.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/168 "2010-11-20T04:05:05Z")

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> [@Ignatz](#):
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> Move to a non-shared dwelling.

That’s the American Dream for many, and unattainable for many as well. Me included. (Not the OP here but just saying, if someone is living in an apartment building it’s generally because it’s the cheapest way to live, not because they prefer it).

(Because neighbors fucking suck! Even if they’re not rude potheads)

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**Author:** ![Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e57/32.png) [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fried_Dough_Ho)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/169 "2010-11-20T04:09:37Z")

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eGads, don’t come to San Francisco. This whole city reeks of pot-smoke.

I am so glad the law didn’t pass but those abusing the medical marijuana law in this state is rampant (I know that for a fact).

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/170 "2010-11-20T18:46:31Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Oh, here comes **Dio** ’s #1 Fan. **Hentor** , last time I checked, he’s married.
> 
> And if I didn’t post links, you’d tell me I was full of shit and ask for cites. In this case, he’s not exactly an unbiased source.

Look, just because I predict that those suffering from Diogenes Derangement Syndrome will make pathetic and juvenile taunts of homosexual sex and love when someone doesn’t agree with them doesn’t mean you _actually_ have to do them. Or maybe you do. Such is the grip of your mania, I suppose, **Guinastalker**.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/171 "2010-11-20T22:04:28Z")

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> [@Fried\_Dough\_Ho](#):
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> eGads, don’t come to San Francisco. This whole city reeks of pot-smoke.
> 
> I am so glad the law didn’t pass but those abusing the medical marijuana law in this state is rampant (I know that for a fact).

Gee, really? And here I thought California was ground zero for an epidemic of contagious glaucoma.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/172 "2010-11-21T18:36:33Z")

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I do not have glaucoma. I attribute this happy state of wel-being to a strict regimen of preventive care that I have rigorously adhered to for more than forty years. And if I could find my car keys, I would view them in sharp contrast and crystalline clarity. But I don’t _really_ need to go anywhere, got cookies. Kid is going to work, Black Ops is out, eight hours of uninterrupted X-Box, pizza joint right across the street…

What? Oh, yeah, glaucoma. Don’t have it. Nosir!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/173 "2010-11-21T19:14:51Z")

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I understand it’s useful for PMS too. Now, I know what you’re thinking, but I say: why take chances?

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/174 "2010-11-21T19:35:20Z")

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If you’re a tenant and you have a problem with your living conditions you need to call your land lord. If your land lord won’t fix the problem, you either need to move or look at other options.

In this case, where we’re talking about a college town that has a police force that is mostly occupied by arresting unruly drunk frat boys the police may be a very viable option for dealing with something like this. In my experience police in those towns _love_ pot busts, because it’s like an episode of NYPD Blue compared to the more boring stuff they’re usually dealing with.

Plus, my experience is police in those towns are always gunning for the chance to bust some petty pot dealers.

Landlord-tenant relations and the laws behind them are one of those things that are widely different from state to state. However, in some states that I’m familiar with _if your land lord was inclined to fix the problem_ it would be very easy. In many states land lords can enter any rental unit without notice, and in many state you can stipulate in the lease that any illegal drugs or drug related activity in a rental unit is grounds for eviction. So if you had a diligent land lord and are in a state where what I just described is permissible it’d be very easy to start eviction proceedings against the people in question.

A lot of land lords suck and don’t care about anything other than getting their monthly rent payment. If you have that situation and the police are unconcerned, then just move. Don’t worry about breaking the lease, unless you’re really anal retentive about your credit report the land lord is essentially powerless to do anything to you in retaliation for breaking a lease.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/175 "2010-11-21T19:44:34Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I didn’t say it was. That’s not my sentence. Kind of moving the goal posts there, aren’t you?

At first I thought you made a mistake and meant to quote yourself.

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**Author:** ![Dennis3240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eada6e/32.png) [@Dennis3240](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dennis3240)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/176 "2010-11-22T03:22:02Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> I think if you’d hit this thing a couple of times you wouldn’t be so uptight…

LMOA very funny

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/177 "2010-11-22T03:52:27Z")

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My neighbors scream, beat each other, pull knives out on each other, have five pit bulls that bark all the livelong day and night, let their dogs run loose and shit in front of my door, and threaten me if I complain, along with many, many other annoying, illegal, and uncomfortable things. I wish that my neighbor problems consisted of them just smoking pot, and I will trade the OP in a hot second. And then I will go smoke pot with his (my new) neighbors.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/178 "2010-11-22T15:25:01Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> … which, as it turned out, were _tokestones_.

What the hell is a tokestone?

> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> (Not the OP here but just saying, if someone is living in an apartment building it’s generally because it’s the cheapest way to live, not because they prefer it).

I know people who live in apartments because we prefer it–myself included.

> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> My neighbors scream, beat each other, pull knives out on each other, have five pit bulls that bark all the livelong day and night, let their dogs run loose and shit in front of my door, and threaten me if I complain, along with many, many other annoying, illegal, and uncomfortable things. I wish that my neighbor problems consisted of them just smoking pot, and I will trade the OP in a hot second.

Oh yeah? Well my neighbors killed my mom, and my dad, and my brother, and my husband, and my baby, and punched me in the abdomen until I miscarried the other baby I was pregnant with. One-up _that_.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/179 "2010-11-22T15:48:20Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> What the hell is a tokestone?

It’s like a cigarette holder, only for a joint. They look sort of like very fat beads.

The amusing part is that she had no idea she was making a big order of druggy supplies.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pot-smoking-neighbors-what-to-do/560808/180 "2010-11-22T17:03:43Z")

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Nice. I’ve always wished my Pet Rock could get high with me.

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