# Pottymouth kid gets soap mouthwash-teacher gets suspension. Darn her all to heck! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 11, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751 "2004-06-11T01:30:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/1 "2004-06-11T01:30:11Z")
Title kinda says it all. [Linky-dink here.](http://http://cbsnewyork.com/nynews/NY--Teacher-SoapSuspe-on/resources_news_html) Talk nice, now, y’hear? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/2 "2004-06-11T01:44:01Z")
Your linky-dink’s busty-wusted. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/3 "2004-06-11T02:24:03Z")
Try it longhand. [http://cbsnewyork.com/nynews/NY--Teacher-SoapSuspe-on/resources\_news\_html](http://cbsnewyork.com/nynews/NY--Teacher-SoapSuspe-on/resources_news_html) Dagnabit! ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/4 "2004-06-11T02:39:07Z")
Meh… you can foam at the mouth all you want about child abuse, but this seems to me quite harmless. ---
**Author:** ![verbenabeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@verbenabeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/verbenabeast)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/5 "2004-06-11T03:31:47Z")
welp… first time my Momma caught me cussin’ I got Ivory soap… second time I Tide detergent… she promised me bleach fior the third time,… that was almost 30 years ago and she ain’t caught me cussin again… yet. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/6 "2004-06-11T04:08:56Z")
I stand shoulder to shoulder with the teacher on this one. A raise, not a suspension! ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/7 "2004-06-11T04:33:01Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > A raise, not a suspension! Wouldn´t that be a rinse? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/8 "2004-06-11T10:10:40Z")
> [@AskNott](#): > > I stand shoulder to shoulder with the teacher on this one. A raise, not a suspension! I disagree. It is not the teacher’s place to do something like that. To be honest, I don’t think parents should either. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/9 "2004-06-11T10:16:44Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Meh… you can foam at the mouth all you want about child abuse, but this seems to me quite harmless. Cute joke, but yes, I think this child abuse and that the teacher should be kept away from kids for it. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/10 "2004-06-11T10:21:34Z")
It’s not her place to discipline her students in that manner. She overstepped her bounds and I have no real sympathy for her. ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/11 "2004-06-11T11:29:54Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > It’s not her place to discipline her students in that manner. She overstepped her bounds and I have no real sympathy for her. Of course not. We turn hordes of children over to these people for care and teaching for 6 - 8 hours per day. God knows, we can’t allow them to _discipline_ the poor dears. I mean, if children were disciplined during school, all hell might stop breaking loose. ---
**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/12 "2004-06-11T12:44:54Z")
While we’re at it, why don’t we wash behind our kids ears with S.O.S pads if they don’t do a satisfactory job of it themselves? (Who, me? Nah, I don’t have a scar behind my ear from that. Nuh-uh… my dad would never do that :rolleyes:) The worst part was that they were dirty from wearing an old printer cartridge (Remember, the ones with the ribbon, lol) as a necklace. Never did get the soap, though… I learned to control my mouth. Something I can’t say of other small kids now. Oh well. Wow, reading that, it makes it seem like I’m old. Only 17, guys, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/13 "2004-06-11T12:53:06Z")
> [@Beelzebubba](#): > > I mean, if children were disciplined during school, all hell might stop breaking loose. You, sir, are a genius. Thank you. Why can’t people see the causal link between the prevaling “nobody must upset or discipline the dear children” attitude and the hordes of disresepctful, mouthy hoodlums that now roam the western world? Give her a raise, and suspend the child, I say. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/14 "2004-06-11T12:54:48Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > … prevaling … disresepctful … Sorry, I seem to be suffering from Delayed Gaudere’s Law after ranting about language in another thread :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/15 "2004-06-11T12:55:15Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > Why can’t people see the causal link between the prevaling “nobody must upset or discipline the dear children” attitude and the hordes of disresepctful, mouthy hoodlums that now roam the western world? Those darn kids today… 😛 I guess there’s no line between discipline and washing the kid’s mouth out with soap?? She couldn’t have sent him to the principal or done something that didn’t come so close to (if not cross) the ‘abuse’ line? ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/16 "2004-06-11T13:02:53Z")
Seriously, I clicked on this thread expecting the OP to show that the thread title was sarcastic. How anyone can pit this teacher is beyond me. You have to remember (and my tongue IS in my cheek here) - kids are evil, mmkay? Quite frankly anyone that can work with them and not commit mass infanticide has my respect. And let’s be honest here: **(Non-exhaustive) list of things that do and do not constitute child abuse:** Child abuse: beating, starvation, emotional deprivation, rape, torture Not child abuse: “a dab of soap” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/17 "2004-06-11T13:07:09Z")
This has got me wound up. And this quote from the linked story winds me up even more: > [@](#): > > `I wish we could have handled this more expeditiously too,'' acknowledged Joanne Giuffrida, personnel chief in the 6,000-employee school district. `It’s just a question of apportioning our resources.’’ Here’s a handy hint: when people start bandying about phrases like “expeditiously” and “apportioning our resources”, it’s a fair bet that they have allowed management training to fill that part of their brain previously allocated to common sense. :rolleyes: I say again: it’s just soap, goddammit! It’s not going to have done the foulmouthed brat any harm! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/18 "2004-06-11T13:28:53Z")
Remember, heck is where people go when they don’t believe in gosh. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/19 "2004-06-11T13:33:22Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > **(Non-exhaustive) list of things that do and do not constitute child abuse:** > > Child abuse: beating, starvation, emotional deprivation, rape, torture > > Not child abuse: “a dab of soap” I’m pretty sure the box of soap says something like ‘not to be taken internally.’ The teacher should’ve taken the freaking hint. 😉 And we have only her word that it was a small amount of soap. By the way, those complaining about how teachers aren’t allowed to discipline kids may have missed this: “The boy had frequently been sent home for unruly behavior minutes earlier, he tried without success to pick a fight with another boy, Thomas said. But rather than let him get his way and earn another one-week suspension, Thomas decided to try something her mother taught her.” And so she came up with this ingenious idea instead of letting his parents handle it. ---
**Author:** ![kilyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c67d28/32.png) [@kilyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kilyth)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751/20 "2004-06-11T13:53:42Z")
I have worked with kids for the last 6 years and if I thought I could possibly get away with it I’d wash their mouths out with soap. If I was _sure_ I could get away with it about 30% of them would get a slap across the head, and so would their parents for raising disobedient, smart alec, nasty children. I was smacked with a copybook by a teacher once and I never complained, I was being a pain and I deserved it and I knew it, so did this kid by the sound of it. Kilyth [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pottymouth-kid-gets-soap-mouthwash-teacher-gets-suspension-darn-her-all-to-heck/249751.md?page=2)