# POTUS Promotes Lead Poisening? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904 "2011-08-24T15:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rekd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Rekd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rekd)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/1 "2011-08-24T15:39:46Z")
Well, may not “promote” it, but he damned sure didn’t do anything to keep millions of kids from be at risk of lead poisoning… From the National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council (NOHVCC) > [@](#): > > On August 12th, President Obama signed a law into effect that exempts youth ATVs and dirt bikes from the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, better known as “the lead law.” The exemption was good news. But it felt like the entire OHV industry had just been released from a 30-month prison sentence. Let’s not forget: dealers closed their doors, people lost their jobs, sales of youth protective gear, parts and accessories were virtually nonexistent, and the industry lost billions in retail economic value They’re all worried about those poor rich people loosing a few billion and could give two shits about the safety of kids. Don’t they realize that lead is poison? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/2 "2011-08-24T15:42:58Z")
That is literally what he did. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/3 "2011-08-24T15:45:15Z")
I hope my kid doesn’t eat his ATV. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/4 "2011-08-24T15:46:40Z")
I’d say a kid old enough to ride an ATV who somehow ingests part of the lead battery probably wasn’t going to safely make it to adulthood anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/5 "2011-08-24T15:47:24Z")
What’s the source of lead exposure for the end user in this industry? ETA: The lead acid battery, huh? How, exactly, does the user end up being physically exposed to the lead? ---
**Author:** ![Silophant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Silophant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silophant)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/6 "2011-08-24T15:49:19Z")
You’re an idiot. Did you do any [research](http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban-Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx) at all, or did you just troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about. Children’s motor vehicles contain lead, just like every other motor vehicle, in the _battery._ Your kid’s school bus contains lead, your car contains lead. As long as your kid doesn’t lick the fucking battery, he’ll be just fine. If your kid does start licking the battery terminals, the electric shock he’ll take through his tongue will hurt him a lot more than the lead will. Dipshit. Edit: Overly ninja’d. This post was in response to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/7 "2011-08-24T15:55:58Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > ETA: The lead acid battery, huh? How, exactly, does the user end up being physically exposed to the lead? You chew on the battery terminals. Somehow, I think this is somewhat less of an issue than lead paint dust, and lead paint/parts in toys for the very young. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/8 "2011-08-24T15:56:58Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > You’re an idiot. Did you do any [research](http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban-Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx) at all, or did you just troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about. He wuz gowing to do the reesurch, but he wuz sow upset about Obama poisening all theyz kids that he loosed track ov time. ---
**Author:** ![Rekd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Rekd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rekd)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/9 "2011-08-24T16:04:57Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > Did you do any [research](http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban-Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx) at all, or did you just troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about. The NOHVCC sent me the notice so no, I didn’t go looking for it. And to be honest, I sure as fuck wouldn’t have to “troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about”. You almost can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something Obama has fucked up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/10 "2011-08-24T16:08:32Z")
Another train-rekd thread… What about those EVIL Republicans who passed the bill in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/11 "2011-08-24T16:08:48Z")
> [@Rekd](#): > > The NOHVCC sent me the notice so no, I didn’t go looking for it. > > And to be honest, I sure as fuck wouldn’t have to “troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about”. You almost can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something Obama has fucked up. 😃 ]Well if you’re stupid and prone to hysteria you can be angry at anything. Have you been right since you made that account? Every single claim you’ve made has been wrong? Doesn’t that suggest to you, that you’re horribly misinformed about a lot of stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/12 "2011-08-24T16:09:13Z")
The GOP: We swing dead cats. It has a ring to it, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/13 "2011-08-24T16:11:55Z")
Loose the poisen! Moran. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/14 "2011-08-24T16:14:46Z")
> [@Rekd](#): > > You almost can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something Obama has fucked up. Why not post about one of those then, instead of garbage like this? ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/15 "2011-08-24T16:23:32Z")
And the worst part is, it overturned [years of Bush-administration efforts](http://the-health-gazette.com/274/epa-sued-for-ignoring-lead-poisoning-hazards/) to reduce exposure to lead! ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/16 "2011-08-24T16:26:25Z")
Spewing garbage is this guy’s schtick. The ban can’t come soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/17 "2011-08-24T16:27:18Z")
> [@Rekd](#): > > The NOHVCC sent me the notice so no, I didn’t go looking for it. > > And to be honest, I sure as fuck wouldn’t have to “troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about”. You almost can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something Obama has fucked up. 😃 So why are you posting about it here? Are you expecting some sort of massive wave of anti-Obama feeling to be unleashed by your poorly-researched, bullshit posts? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/18 "2011-08-24T16:37:21Z")
I fully support this. The problem here isn’t this reasonable move, but the fact that the “lead law” in question was written far too broadly. Of course, this mess of a bill flew through with bipartisan support, as nobody wanted to be branded by a future political opponent as being Pro-Lead Toy. That didn’t mean that the law was at all thoughtfully written. President Obama himself probably would have voted for it as well had he not been on the campaign trail. He didn’t, though, and that’s a mark in his favor. President Bush signed the thing - that’s a mark against. All of this could have been accomplished by reasonably enforcing existing regulations - but there were no headlines in that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/19 "2011-08-24T16:51:38Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > You’re an idiot. Did you do any [research](http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban-Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx) at all, or did you just troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about. He’s already got something to be pissed off at Obama about – being a Democrat in the White House. He’s just trolling the internet for something that will get _us_ pissed off at Obama. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolle–OW, MY EYEBALL-ROLLING MUSCLES!!! DAMMIT, **Rekd** , see what you made me do? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/20 "2011-08-24T16:55:22Z")
I bet he doesn’t even care about lead that much, but is simply concern trolling. “Ohhh, i just LOVE the environment I really really do, trust me on this! Here is a cite that says Obama is bad for the environment! And I’m a real environmentalist so you know I’m only posting this because of what I feel about lead!” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904.md?page=2)