# POTUS Promotes Lead Poisening?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 24, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904 "2011-08-24T15:39:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/81 "2011-08-25T02:46:58Z")

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This MAY be the fastest burst of stupidity to make my ignore list ever. And that’s beating OMG Black Conservadork, which is saying something.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/82 "2011-08-25T02:48:40Z")

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> [@Rekd](#):
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> Yeah, I saw that after I posted and hoped nobody would notice. :smack:

Would you care to admit, then, that your OP was full of shit?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/83 "2011-08-25T02:50:10Z")

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> [@Rekd](#):
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> I LOLed. 😃

Well, do better next time. Obama-bashing is lame anyway for its unoriginality - Fox News is on it constantly as are an infinite supply of glurgy e-mails circulating the internet like unchecked histamines. Bash somebody less overexposed, but whose work attracts the interest of numerous dopers, like Dan Harmon or Tera Patrick.

Well, maybe “less overexposed” wouldn’t apply to Patrick, but no matter.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/84 "2011-08-25T03:18:53Z")

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If I had not read this thread, I might never have known that a film entitled _Moaning of Virgin Ghost_ had ever been made. My life is just that much richer.

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/85 "2011-08-25T04:21:59Z")

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This thread has to go into the SDMB HOF as one of the all-time stupid posts. Really, this thing is almost unbelievable in it’s ignorance, trolling and bias on the part of the OP.

Mod’s, time to lock it. I’ll also vote for a banning but that’s not my decision.

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**Author:** ![REDEYZZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@REDEYZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/REDEYZZ)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/86 "2011-08-25T04:24:01Z")

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Tough crowd OP. This might add to his 38% approval rating. ?? 😕

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/87 "2011-08-25T04:50:15Z")

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If the OP has a 38% approval rating, I am the Queen of Romania.

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**Author:** ![Rekd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Rekd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rekd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/88 "2011-08-25T07:09:49Z")

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Yeah, tough crowd. I think I got off on the wrong bar-stool by bagging on POTUS like that. He prolly didn’t deserve it just like Bush didn’t deserv… wait, Bush DID deserve it. Nevermind.

/shrugs/

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/89 "2011-08-25T07:25:02Z")

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To the ignore list, Robin!

Buh-bye, **Rekd**.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/90 "2011-08-25T14:51:46Z")

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> [@Rekd](#):
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> Man, you guys really blow things out of proportion here don’t you? Anything to make a point, eh? 😉

This from a guy who starts a thread about how “Obama is in favor of poisening children OMGWTFBBQ”

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/91 "2011-08-25T15:07:32Z")

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> [@Rekd](#):
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> Yeah, tough crowd. I think I got off on the wrong bar-stool by bagging on POTUS like that. He prolly didn’t deserve it just like Bush didn’t deserv… wait, Bush DID deserve it. Nevermind.
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> /shrugs/

prolly?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/92 "2011-08-25T15:14:43Z")

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So your contention, Rekd, is that when these regulations were unsettled and being debated, Obama cost the industry billions\*. And when they were settled, Obama wanted to poison our children\*\*. That about sum it up?

Tell me, was there any possible way in the scenario you’ve set up that Obama could have done the right thing?  
\*[citation needed]  
\*\*[citation needed]

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/93 "2011-08-25T15:26:27Z")

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> [@Rekd](#):
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> Well, may not “promote” it, but he damned sure didn’t do anything to keep millions of kids from be at risk of lead poisoning…
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> They’re all worried about those poor rich people loosing a few billion and could give two shits about the safety of kids. Don’t they realize that lead is poison? :smack:

> [@Rekd](#):
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> I’m not defending the cite of how much it cost the industry, I just quoted it.
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> However, this has been going on for what? 2 years? I first talked about it in Sept of 2009. The bill got delayed in Jan 2011 and has now been overturned.
> 
> For nearly that entire time sales were stopped. Including the sale of ATVs and Dirtbikes and I believe many different types of helmets and other safety equipment/accessories.
> 
> I imagine in that span of time there were many many millions of lost dollars, possibly into a billion? Could be but I’m not going to research it.

So first you are upset with Obama for signing an exemption, then you are upset with him for not signing it fast enough? Please keep your stories straight. Sure we understand that you hate Obama and have a knee jerk reaction against anything he does right or wrong, but it would be nice to know which of your woefully ill informed opinions we should trash.

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**Author:** ![Rekd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Rekd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rekd)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/94 "2011-08-25T15:52:24Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> So your contention, Rekd, is that when these regulations were unsettled and being debated, Obama cost the industry billions\*. And when they were settled, Obama wanted to poison our children\*\*. That about sum it up?
> 
> Tell me, was there any possible way in the scenario you’ve set up that Obama could have done the right thing?  
> \*[citation needed]  
> \*\*[citation needed]

Close, but no. My contention was that Obama was allowing something that has (a now obviously remote) chance that a kid could get lead poisoning by allowing this bill to be killed.

However, (and you guys are gonna kill me for this…) when you consider the broad brush the bill was created with and how idiotic it was for the Consumer Product Safety Commission to enact such a bill in the first place.

It was thrown together in haste and caused a bunch of hyperbole and misinformation about the whole thing.

The worst part is what would happen when kids couldn’t get youth ATVs and would likely be riding more dangerous adult sized ATVs. (Yes, suddenly eating an ATV doesn’t seem like such a bad thing) Injuries from youth ATVs are pretty high and the majority of them are from kids riding bigger ATVs and not wearing helmets.

Had this bill passed it could have been very bad for kids who want to ride but cant get an appropriate sized quad.

I’m really glad I brought this up here, it pushed me to consider other sides of the story I hadn’t heard and it actually changed my mind. Thanks for the lumps and lessons. 😃

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/95 "2011-08-25T20:08:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> POTUS Promotes Lead Poisening?

I’ll admit to skimming the thread so I’m not sure whether OP finally decided the bill Obama signed was idiotic, or the bill it overturned was idiotic. He does seem adamant that there’s some idiocy in this thread; and I think we can all agree with that.

> [@Rekd](#):
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> And to be honest, I sure as fuck wouldn’t have to “troll the internet to desperately find something to be pissed off at Obama about”. You almost can’t swing a dead cat without hitting something Obama has fucked up. 😃

Yeah, it sure is easy to get pissed off when we have a damn Nigger as President.

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Another train-rekd thread…
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> What about those EVIL Republicans who passed the bill in the first place?

This I think is a key point. The Federal Government is a big place but morons think everything that goes wrong is that damn Nigger’s fault. If anyone had blamed GWB for a bill OP disapproves of that passed the Democrat Congress, OP would have soiled his diapers.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/96 "2011-08-25T20:50:38Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Sure we understand that you hate Obama and have a knee jerk reaction against anything he does right or wrong

Oh, I don’t think it’s established Rekd hates Obama reflexively. Rather, I think Rekd wants _us_ to hate _him_ reflexively.

Or at least that’s how I figure the troll mentality works.

Well, “works”…

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/97 "2011-08-25T20:59:23Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’ll admit to skimming the thread so I’m not sure whether OP finally decided the bill Obama signed was idiotic, or the bill it overturned was idiotic.

The OP decided that he’s upset with Obama and whether that’s because Obama is a damn socialist who’s killing business with excessive regulation or an inhuman monster intent on poisoning our precious children is just nitpicking.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/98 "2011-08-25T21:38:48Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Another train-rekd thread…
> 
> What about those EVIL Republicans who passed the bill in the first place?

Um, the bill was written by Mark Pryor. He isn’t a Republican last time I checked. And the bill passed with overwhelming support from both parties, so the Democrats can hardly be excused if it is too broad in its application.

In my statement above I give President Obama a pass for this mess - this by no means lets other Democrats (or Republicans) skip out on their obligation to pass responsible legislation.

I know you were making a point to an idiot, but let’s keep things straight here.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-promotes-lead-poisening/593904/99 "2011-08-25T22:32:49Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Nobody got my Pb& J joke ☹

These lead jokes are plumbing the depths of humor.

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