# POTUS sends 2,000 National Guard troops to L.A. to handle ICE protests - 6/7/2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 8, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320 "2025-06-08T04:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/181 "2025-06-10T01:17:02Z")
We all know this is just to show how lawless California is, right? That if this happened in a Red state, there’d be no federal troops unless requested. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/182 "2025-06-10T01:31:22Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Orangeanus says he supports Newsom’s arrest, weakly. And 700 marines arrive. 🙄 > > [As Trump endorses his arrest, Newsom sees ‘unmistakable step toward authoritarianism’](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-endorses-arrest-newsom-sees-unmistakable-step-authoritarianism-rcna211894) I can’t find the clip now, but a reporter asked Trump what crime Newsom had committed that would warrant his arrest. Trump’s answer was, “he ran for governor.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/183 "2025-06-10T19:19:37Z")
> **[Is Trump authorized to send troops to LA? What to know](https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jun/10/Trump-Newsom-National-Guard-Los-Angeles-Marines/)** > > Following Los Angeles protests over ICE enforcement, the Trump administration sent in the National Guard and deployed Marines. State officials dispute those moves. It’s unusual for the federal government to send troops domestically. _The U.S. president typically cannot order the U.S. military to engage in domestic law enforcement, but there are exceptions._ \*\* The 1807 Insurrection Act allows states to request federal assistance and allows the president, in limited circumstances, to deploy military personnel in the U.S. without a state’s consent.\* \*\* President Donald Trump did not invoke the Insurrection Act in a June 7 memo that deployed the California National Guard to Los Angeles. He cited a federal law that says if the U.S. faces a rebellion, the president may call into federal service the state National Guard.\* This is trumps “justification” > **[10 U.S. Code § 12406 - National Guard in Federal service: call](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406)** ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/184 "2025-06-10T22:34:22Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Here is a map of Los Angeles and the red circle is where the major protest and the Army are and where the freeway was blocked. > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://imgur.com/gallery/riot-area-00ybz4f0) That’s a great antidote to all the “L.A. WOULD BE BURNING DOWN IF NOT FOR TRUMP” the right (FoxNews etc.) is trying to sell. It’s ridiculous, of course. But they never let facts get in the way of a good story. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/185 "2025-06-11T04:58:28Z")
So, which is it? Is the whole L.A. metroplex up in flames, with rioters on every street corner, or is most of the violence so far being committed by the troops and police? So far, I’m going with the latter. Gotta say that the taxicab in flames makes for some good background footage. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/186 "2025-06-11T15:32:44Z")
Santa Barbara County just 32 people to assist > **[Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Office Sends 32 Personnel to Los Angeles](https://www.independent.com/2025/06/10/santa-barbara-county-sheriffs-office-sends-32-personnel-to-los-angeles/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Indy%20Today%3A%20Community%20Rallies%20to%20%20Keep%20ICE%20Out%20%20of%20Central%20Coast&utm_campaign=Indy%20Today%2C%20Wednesday%206%2F11&vgo_ee=rXPMaHDyZYeg%2BlfsAmWSgWqfhgtUah54FbYJ6G1r08ENZsI%3D%3A8ldCvk1Qoq0f%2FhrBZvYNH28n9TwW0ysD)** > > The Governor's Office of Emergency Services asked the Sheriff's Office on Sunday to provide mutual aid during the ongoing protests. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/187 "2025-06-11T15:41:12Z")
Not sure if it’s okay to augment the topic by citing deployment of troops in other protest cities. **“Abbott sends Texas National Guard troops to San Antonio ahead of protests”** (That would be Texas Governor Gregg Abbott) [https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/abbott-deploys-national-guard-san-antonio-protests-20371032.php?utm\_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm\_source=share-by-email&utm\_medium=email](https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/abbott-deploys-national-guard-san-antonio-protests-20371032.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm_source=share-by-email&utm_medium=email) _The governor’s spokesman says soldiers are “on standby.” Protests against immigrant arrests are planned for Wednesday and Saturday in downtown San Antonio._ * * * I have friends who were planning to attend the Saturday protests. They’re old like me, so not sure if they’re rethinking it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/188 "2025-06-11T15:41:24Z")
I’m not sure how many people I’d expect the sheriff’s office of a different county to send. Probably zero. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/189 "2025-06-11T15:54:34Z")
They are helping to guard buildings from being damaged so they are helping the LA sheriffs and specifically not ICE. It’s pretty common to provide mutual aid for disasters and unrest. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/190 "2025-06-11T16:00:52Z")
Santa Barbara in general being pretty quiet, (excluding local college town Isla Vista) perhaps those sheriffs looking for some overtime. Wait till Montecito riots!! ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/191 "2025-06-11T16:31:02Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The protests are in a small fraction of downtown. I drove from Santa Barbara through the San Fernando Valley into Hollywood and back yesterday and if you didn’t follow the news, you’d have no idea anything was going on. Similarly for the West Side where a lot of my family lives. I’m on the Westside, and, yeah, it’s very quiet here. Though I did see on our NextDoor that ICE snatched the fruit vendor who works at the CVS parking lot at Manchester and Sepulveda. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/192 "2025-06-11T17:03:18Z")
I’m from Mar Vista but I left in the early 80s. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/193 "2025-06-11T17:25:40Z")
Clarington at Palms, me. I moved up here in December 2003. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/194 "2025-06-11T17:29:41Z")
Fantastic speech by Gavin Newsom on the situation: > **[Gov. Newsom: ‘Trump chose theatrics over public safety’](https://www.msnbc.com/the-briefing-with-jen-psaki/watch/california-governor-criticizes-trump-sending-national-guard-in-response-to-protests-241311813858)** > > California Gov. Gavin Newsom responded to President Donald Trump deploying the National Guard in response to anti-ICE raid protests. Newsom warned that other states could be next, and said Trump “chose escalation.”  ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/195 "2025-06-11T17:39:56Z")
> [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](#): > > Santa Barbara in general being pretty quiet, (excluding local college town Isla Vista) perhaps those sheriffs looking for some overtime. Wait till Montecito riots!! 🙂 There’s actually a lot of county outside of the City of SB (who has their own cops). Regardless, I am certain that they took volunteers and it’s pretty good pay. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/196 "2025-06-11T17:41:01Z")
Gavin Newsom was, I think, starting his 2028 presidential campaign with his speech. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/197 "2025-06-11T17:51:09Z")
I assumed that was a part of the intent @Dewey_Finn , and while I have people I’d prefer, if (a huge IF) he can generate some wider appeal, and actually make any sort of productive stand against Trump, I won’t begrudge him his personal ambition either. We are in desperate need of someone who can capture the imagination and encourage (non-violent) resistance, rather than the current milling about and/or doom-crying (with cause mind you!) as the Authoritarians remain united under their orange-hued autocrat. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/198 "2025-06-11T17:53:05Z")
Perhaps Newsom can be the one to lead the Democratic Party out of the wilderness. Certainly they need someone to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/199 "2025-06-11T18:02:32Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Gavin Newsom was, I think, starting his 2028 presidential campaign with his speech. I certainly hope so. He hit all the right notes: Lay out the situation and how Trump was at fault Strongly condemn the violence and destruction that did occur, promise consequences Remind everyone that Trump caused this to escalate much further than it would have otherwise Praise the peaceful protestors Denounce Trump again Really, really good speech. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Certainly they need someone to do so. Well, it certainly won’t be DNC chair Ken Martin! ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/200 "2025-06-11T18:06:05Z")
He’s been running for President since before Covid. This is a good opportunity for him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320.md?page=11)