# POTUS sends 2,000 National Guard troops to L.A. to handle ICE protests - 6/7/2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 8, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320 "2025-06-08T04:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/21 "2025-06-08T16:52:52Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > BTW, according to LA’s mayor, no national guard troops were actually deployed in LA. [They have arrived](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-news-06-08-25). ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/22 "2025-06-08T16:57:06Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > And heaven help any protester who isn’t a native-born US citizen. This is better expressed “heaven help any protestor who doesn’t look white”, because we’ve seen this admin isn’t super picky about the fine points of credentialism when they want to ship people to El Salvador. Even being white with a conventional haircut may not be 100% foolproof, but for the time being, that’s the greatest predictor of whether somebody gets due process or civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/23 "2025-06-08T18:43:14Z")
> “MASKS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED to be worn at protests. What do these people have to hide, and why???” the president [posted on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114646378582957392). To hide Rubella and other respiratory illnesses that your health department denies are a problem, you orange cad!! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/24 "2025-06-08T18:46:05Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > “MASKS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED to be worn at protests. What do these people have to hide, and why???” the president [posted on Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114646378582957392). Didn’t his stormtroopers wear masks recently? well I’l be darned, they did. [ICE Agents Routinely Mask Up When Seizing People—That’s Wrong | Cato at Liberty Blog](https://www.cato.org/blog/ice-agents-seizing-people-now-routinely-wear-masks-thats-wrong) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/25 "2025-06-08T20:05:03Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > NG troops and their mid-level commanders are largely just everyday Americans, and I don’t think it will be quite so easy to force them to be the tools of fascists. They will obey, essentially to a man, orders to violently oppress the public. Absolute fantasy to think otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/26 "2025-06-08T20:16:28Z")
Cue ICE stormtroopers. Get out there, boys! Must have a scene to defend! > **[National Guard troops ordered to Los Angeles by Trump find quiet streets and...](https://apnews.com/article/immigration-protests-raids-los-angeles-78eaba714dbdd322715bf7650fb543d7?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share)** > > National Guard troops have begun arriving on President Trump's orders in response to immigration protests. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/27 "2025-06-08T20:18:18Z")
Maybe not L.A. proper, but many of the 'burbs? Yup. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/28 "2025-06-08T20:20:50Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > They will obey, essentially to a man, orders to violently oppress the public. Absolute fantasy to think otherwise. Just like soldiers always obey wannabe dictators, right? Especially weekend warriors. Those guys definitely embody the concept of “mindless obedience”. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/29 "2025-06-08T20:29:14Z")
Here’s a livestream of a protest. I have a feeling that most of them didn’t even think about ICE until the troops came. And no, CNN can’t show this live, for reasons that are immediately obvious. > **[Live: National Guard in Los Angeles for anti-ICE protests](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWmyyhi4pH8%2F)** > > The US military is in Downtown Los Angeles Sunday morning, after President Donald Trump's administration said on Saturday (June 7), it would deploy 2,000 Nat... ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/30 "2025-06-08T20:35:12Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > And no, CNN can’t show this live, for reasons that are immediately obvious. It’s not at all obvious. Why would CNN be unable to show it? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/31 "2025-06-08T20:36:21Z")
Did you see some of the signs? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/32 "2025-06-08T20:38:02Z")
This is a dangerous game with optics that are bound to backfire on Trump. For MAGAs looking to the past for a time of greatness, who’d have thought they would have landed on May 4, 1970. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/33 "2025-06-08T20:38:03Z")
No, I didn’t click the link. Was there a “CNN Sucks!” sign? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/34 "2025-06-08T20:39:04Z")
There are a lot of “Fuck ICE” signs. Although I’m sure CNN knows how to blur as well as anyone. Even we can do it here on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/35 "2025-06-08T20:40:50Z")
CNN can show that. And if this goes Trump’s way, there’s bound to be actually terrible things happening that CNN will have no problems showing. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/36 "2025-06-08T20:40:52Z")
If it’s necessary to blur signs containing obscenities. I don’t think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/37 "2025-06-08T20:41:01Z")
I’m about an hour south of LA, but my FB feed is filled with many friends from LA to San Diego. I’m seeing an enormous amount of anger from just about everyone and 90% of the posts on my feed are about this topic. People are getting pissed off, even those that almost never post anything remotely political. I don’t see how this ends well at all. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/38 "2025-06-08T20:43:05Z")
I don’t, either. But I don’t pretend to know or understand the sensibilities of CNN. I don’t watch them. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/39 "2025-06-08T20:47:53Z")
Beyond just the uncertainty of how individual guardsmen and guardswomen will act and react on the ground, for Trump and co to positively engineer an atrocity, think of all the layers of bureaucracy this has to go through - Trump orders SecDef, SD orders senior flag level commanders, senior flag commanders order junior flag level commanders, they order mid-level commanders, and mid level commanders order the units themselves. That’s a whole lot of opportunities to drag one’s feet, slow their roll etc., if any of those commanders fear the orders might be unlawful (and thus subject them to future consequences). Sure, the NG is likely to show up where ordered, but barring an immediate crisis (i.e. protesters pulling guns or bombs), or a low level breakdown like Kent State (which is always possible), a lot of officers would need to obey unlawful orders without question or delay for an atrocity to occur. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320/40 "2025-06-08T20:48:44Z")
So it sounds like the national guard are not actually protecting ICE raids, but just interfering with protests… Is this the case? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potus-sends-2-000-national-guard-troops-to-l-a-to-handle-ice-protests-6-7-2025/1019320.md?page=3)