# Prager U: Vitamin N
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [March 17, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625 "2020-03-17T02:59:09Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/1 "2020-03-17T02:59:09Z")
Here’s a dose of The Painful Truth:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3cgUhtRUbE)
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### Author:  [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/2 "2020-03-17T03:02:47Z")
Well he sure thinks he’s cute, doesn’t he? I wonder if he has actually raised children.
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### Author:  [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/3 "2020-03-17T03:05:16Z")
Ironic considering he doesn’t think no means no.
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### Author:  [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/4 "2020-03-17T03:10:10Z")
Religious extremists discussing the importance of accepting loss gracefully is really insulting.
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### Author:  [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/5 "2020-03-17T07:14:17Z")
I wish I hadn’t clicked on that stupid-ass link. I endured nearly 10 seconds of it before hitting thumbs down and closing the browser tab. It would have been preferable for the OP to include some actual information about it so we would know in advance if it were worth clicking on or not. In fact, I thought OPs presenting video URLs with little or no information were deprecated around here.
I actually googled “vitamin N” first in an attempt to puzzle out what the OP was talking about, and the only thing found is somebody unrelated promoting nature hikes, making the URL falsely seem innocuous.
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### Author:  [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/6 "2020-03-17T12:10:05Z")
“Prager U. Vitamin N”
Here’s a thing Wikipedia has to say about the guy who made that video:
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> Rosemond has received criticism for his recommendations on toilet training[3] and spanking[4] because they contradict other parenting experts’ recommendations as well as the official evidence-based policy of the American Psychological Association.[5] Rosemond’s statements on attention deficit hyperactivity disorder also have been criticized for being inaccurate;[6] Rosemond says the disorder does not exist.[7]
If “Prager U” wasn’t enough of a warning, maybe this will keep you from clicking the link and giving them the YouTube money and algorithm boost they want.
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### Author:  [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/7 "2020-03-17T12:16:47Z")
From the end of the video:
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> This also explains why children who get too much of what they want rarely take proper care of anything they have. Why should they? After all, experience tells them that more is always on the way.
That explains a lot! Why invest in a proper healthcare system if your peasants – I mean, if OTHER PEOPLE - will just keep breeding anyways?
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### Author:  [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/8 "2020-03-17T15:18:29Z")
[quote=“Enola\_Straight, post:1, topic:849625”]
Here’s a dose of The Painful Truth:
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A clickbait one-liner and an anonymous youtube link isn’t going to get you very far.
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### Author:  [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/9 "2020-03-17T20:45:20Z")
> [@Johanna](#):
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> I wish I hadn’t clicked on that stupid-ass link.
For future reference, Prager U is a propaganda mill for some reactionary conservatives. Not worth a thinking person’s time.
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### Author:  [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/10 "2020-03-17T20:56:38Z")
Yeah, there was no way in hell I was going to click on a YouTube link to Prager U. Even I don’t hate myself _that_ much.
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/11 "2020-03-17T21:28:50Z")
> [@begbert2](#):
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> Yeah, there was no way in hell I was going to click on a YouTube link to Prager U. Even I don’t hate myself _that_ much.
I think OP’s like that are against the rules.
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### Author:  [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/12 "2020-03-17T21:51:07Z")
I lost all respect for Mike Rowe the moment I learned he did work for good ol’ PU.
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/13 "2020-03-17T22:18:58Z")
> [@begbert2](#):
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> Yeah, there was no way in hell I was going to click on a YouTube link to Prager U. Even I don’t hate myself _that_ much.
I clicked on it just long enough to downvote it. But then I stayed just long enough to hear about the dad who bought his five year old an electric guitar and a lap top, as one does for one’s five year old.
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### Author:  [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/14 "2020-03-18T03:21:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I think OP’s like that are against the rules.
That’s what I mean. Even if not explicitly against the rules _yet_ (I looked), it’s definitely deprecated and roundly scorned and hated by this community. An OP who would flout the community standards like that has only themself to blame when they lose everyone’s respect.
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### Author:  [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/15 "2020-03-18T14:04:27Z")
Just so I get it…is everybody hatin’ on the _message,_ or the _source?_
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/16 "2020-03-18T14:42:52Z")
We’re mainly “hatin’” on both the source and an OP with a link to a video and little or no explanation of what the video contains, why it is being linked to or what the OP’s views about the topic are, but the “message” is patronizing, simplistic and not grounded in reality. It’s a hat trick of dislikability.
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### Author:  [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/17 "2020-03-18T14:43:24Z")
> [@Enola\_Straight](#):
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> Just so I get it…is everybody hatin’ on the _message,_ or the _source?_
Few people have actually seen the message, since it’s a shitty source we don’t want to give advertising money. Apparently the specific messenger in this video is also controversial. And you, the OP, supplied no context or real commentary.
Of course, even a blind chicken occasionally finds a grain, but why discuss whatever this is based on a video from a known crank on a ultra-conservative propaganda channel?
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/18 "2020-03-18T15:59:26Z")
[quote=“Enola\_Straight, post:1, topic:849625”]
Here’s a dose of The Painful Truth:
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I would appreciate having some kind of indication to any link, such as a brief description or summary. I’m not going to click on a bare link.
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### Author:  [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/19 "2020-03-18T17:23:34Z")
If Prager U says the sky is blue, you’d better look outside and check. Everyone would do well to avoid them if possible, and ignore everything they say if you’re somehow in a situation where it’s impossible to avoid them.
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### Author:  [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prager-u-vitamin-n/849625/20 "2020-03-18T18:01:45Z")
> [@Enola\_Straight](#):
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> Just so I get it…is everybody hatin’ on the _message,_ or the _source?_
As far as I’m concerned there is no message. You provided us with a link to a garbage delivery service, essentially feeding us a shit sandwich. You’re not going to get a lot of commentary on the flavor of the sauce when nobody is dumb enough to take a bite of the shit in the first place.
If you want us to critique some message, tell us what message you want critiqued. Yourself. in your own words.
Though seriously, sneak preview: garbage delivery services deliver garbage. So your message is, almost certainly, garbage.
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