# Prayers Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 7, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976 "2010-02-07T01:00:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/1 "2010-02-07T01:00:15Z")

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Not sure where to put this, so mods can feel free to move.

Put any sort of prayer-personal or formal- and of whatever religion, sect, denomination, and cult in here.

The Lord’s Prayer:  
Our Father in heaven,

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    hallowed be your name,
    your kingdom come,
    your will be done,

        on earth as in heaven.

Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us our sins

    as we forgive those who sin against us.

Save us from the time of trial

    and deliver us from evil.

```

Amen.

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/2 "2010-02-07T01:10:20Z")

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\<mod\>

Great Debates is for witnessing.

Moved.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/3 "2010-02-07T01:10:58Z")

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Will they have Mogen David in heaven  
Dear Lord, we’d all like to know  
Will they have Mogen David in heaven, Sweet Jesus  
If they don’t, who the hell wants to go.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/4 "2010-02-07T01:11:45Z")

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> [@Rico](#):
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> \<mod\>
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> Great Debates is for witnessing.
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> Moved.
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> \</mod\>

But it’s not religious witnessing.

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**Author:** ![RedWood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f08c70/32.png) [@RedWood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedWood)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/5 "2010-02-07T01:19:19Z")

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Oh God!!! Let me pass this test and I SWEAR I’ll never go out partying during Finals Week Again!

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/6 "2010-02-07T01:21:36Z")

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No sarcastic/insincere prayers please.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/7 "2010-02-07T01:23:07Z")

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\*\*Agnostic’s Prayer : \*\*

Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/8 "2010-02-07T01:23:20Z")

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“Why won’t you heal amputees?”

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/9 "2010-02-07T01:23:57Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> No sarcastic/insincere prayers please.

Define prayer.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/10 "2010-02-07T01:26:20Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Define prayer.

> [@](#):
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> A practice of communicating with one’s God.

or any sort of deity.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/11 "2010-02-07T01:28:51Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> or any sort of deity.

Then I don’t see how any prayer can not be insincere, absent the existence of any deity.

Or, if you insist that deities do exist, how can you tell if someone praying to the God of Snotburgers really means it?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/12 "2010-02-07T01:30:13Z")

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That’s not prayer; no one can “communicate with a deity” since they don’t exist, and more importantly for this, don’t respond. All you can do is talk and pretend something is listening.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/13 "2010-02-07T01:33:56Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> But it’s not religious witnessing.

Very well. And I agree that, by a strict definition of witnessing, it’s not. It isn’t a debate, either. It’s a purposeless list of stuff. So I’m sending this to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/14 "2010-02-07T01:35:06Z")

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I mean when the person who’s praying believes he’s trying to communicate with his deity.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/15 "2010-02-07T01:36:15Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> I mean when the person who’s praying believes he’s trying to communicate with his deity.

Again, how can you make that judgment? Who are you to say what is sincere and what isn’t?

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/16 "2010-02-07T01:37:31Z")

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“Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub!”

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/17 "2010-02-07T01:38:59Z")

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> [@Oni no Maggie](#):
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> “Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub!”

“Good God good meat; good God let’s eat!”

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/18 "2010-02-07T01:40:53Z")

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“It is by my will alone that I set my mind in motion.”

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/19 "2010-02-07T01:45:40Z")

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Also, I’d like to add that I find the “modern English” versions of the Lord’s Prayer to be aesthetically displeasing.

I mean, compare the OP with this:

> [@](#):
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> Our Father Who art in heaven,  
> Hallowed be Thy name.  
> Thy kingdom come, Thy Will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.  
> Give us this day our daily bread.  
> And forgive us our trespasses, as we have forgiven those who trespass against us.  
> And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.  
> For Thine is the Kingdom, and the Power, and the Glory, forever.

I mean, that version has some poetry to it!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prayers-thread/527976/20 "2010-02-07T01:47:23Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> “It is by my will alone that I set my mind in motion.”

I call foul, the mentat’s mantra is not a prayer.

I will add, however “Oh God, please stop the room from spinning and I promise I will never, ever, ever drink again.”

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