# Praying for Obama's DEATH? Really? That's the depth you nutjobs have sunk to?? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 24, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184 "2010-04-24T06:06:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/81 "2010-04-27T00:35:55Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > \*\*Praying for Obama’s DEATH? Really? That’s the depth you nutjobs have sunk to?? > \*\* > > And of course, nobody on the left prayed for the death of George W. Bush. > > [Redirecting...](http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html) Those sorts of signs and messages are indeed completely out of line and outrageous. Just as these are. (As an aside, the fourth picture on that site is hilarious–I love how the guy on the right has a contemplative expression, like, “_Hmm…truly, his message is a complex and deep one._”) ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/82 "2010-04-27T00:51:38Z")
Kinda sad. If Patrick Swayze was their favorite actor, you think they would have been able to spell his name correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/83 "2010-04-27T01:00:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > \*\*Praying for Obama’s DEATH? Really? That’s the depth you nutjobs have sunk to?? > \*\* > > And of course, nobody on the left prayed for the death of George W. Bush. > > [Redirecting...](http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html) Actually, I’d say these signs are worse than prayers. The signs try to influence people in the earthly realm (which we know for a fact actually exists). ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/84 "2010-04-27T05:12:54Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It’s okay for the rest of us to mock digs, though, right? I vote _No_. Actually, you were defending me (thanks!) from a comment that had been taken as sarcasm, but was actually serious. Una recommended either getting different friends or standing up to them. Both of which I’m working on, as I wade through RightWingGlurge emails… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/85 "2010-04-27T06:52:47Z")
Well I’m going to pray to God that Obama stays alive throughout both his terms of office. We will see who God favors, me or them, by whose prayers he grants! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/86 "2010-04-27T07:54:22Z")
I think Obama is just the means that God used to make Michelle First Lady. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/87 "2010-04-27T11:39:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I think Obama is just the means that God used to make Michelle First Lady. Indeed. If someone doesn’t like or at least admire some things about President Obama, I figure they’re just a regular asshole who may or may not have redeeming qualities (usually not, but hey). But if someone doesn’t like or at least admire Michelle, then I _know_ they’re useless raging dickhead assholes with NO redeeming qualities. In fact, I feel I’m deeply insulting dicks, heads, and assholes by the comparison. There are no words that would or could express my scorn toward their sorry asses. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/88 "2010-04-27T12:40:11Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > And after all, there has been no thread pitting John Wilkes Booth. What do you expect on a left-leaning board like this? Of course the Usual Suspects are silent about an actor (and we all know what those Hollywood types are like) attacking a Republican President. If Lincoln had been a Democrat they’d have been howling like broke-dick dogs and throwing quiches at Rush Limbaugh. It’s so typical of this place. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/89 "2010-04-27T12:49:12Z")
[Missed the edit window] > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I’d guess that everyone who actively wants him dead is, though. [Not everyone](http://www.theonion.com/video/man-attempts-to-assassinate-obama-but-not-because,17220/). ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/90 "2010-04-28T02:40:45Z")
How did this “broke dick dog” thing get started? It’s disgusting and cringe-worthy and gives me horrible, shuddering nightmares. My problems and wishes don’t mean dick, but boy, do I wish people would use something else, like “broke dick teabagger.” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/91 "2010-04-28T03:44:58Z")
Apparently, she was branching out into ursophilia, too. I guess horses were getting boring. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/92 "2010-04-28T04:02:47Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > **Bricker** , if, God forbid, one of these loons assassinates Obama and there is a thread pitting the assassin, would you remind people not to get too upset or charged up since another political fanatic assassinated Lincoln (a Republican)? And after all, there has been no thread pitting John Wilkes Booth. > > I suppose it must be nice to live in a world where there is no injustice or outrage because someone, somewhere, at some point in time, did or said something that might have been similar but on the opposing political side. > > Maybe you could put your legal training to use and write a boilerplate disclaimer that anyone who pits political or politically-motivated actions or speech can simply cut and paste so they can avoid being called a hypocrite by you for not also denouncing other actions that they may or may not know about. The point is not the hypocrisy, but that this stuff has happened before. The OP may have never heard of it. Fine. But the point is, few people took it seriously then. Why take it seriously now? Sure, Bricker can’t help but make a political jab when he gets the chance. But it really bothers me that I didn’t think much of when I heard this stuff about Bush, but I am concerned about Obama. I really wonder why I’m more afraid of his assassination than Bush’s. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/93 "2010-04-28T04:48:09Z")
Is this any different than people threatening Gov. Brewer over her signing SB1070? There are crazies on both sides and all of it is unacceptable, ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/94 "2010-04-28T09:33:22Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > How did this “broke dick dog” thing get started? It’s disgusting and cringe-worthy and gives me horrible, shuddering nightmares. My problems and wishes don’t mean dick, but boy, do I wish people would use something else, like “broke dick teabagger.” It was a deliberate reference to something **Clothahump** said in another thread, of which my point was a mild parody. > [@BigT](#): > > But it really bothers me that I didn’t think much of when I heard this stuff about Bush, but I am concerned about Obama. I really wonder why I’m more afraid of his assassination than Bush’s. Speaking for myself, it’s because some of the people who are making such statements own guns and sometimes actually bring them to the protests while the frothing left-wing, although still capable of violence, don’t tend to favor firearms, preferring mob violence instead. It’s pretty hard to assassinate the President in a riot as there’s usually enough time and plans in place to get him to safety, whereas one lunatic in the crowd with a gun just has to get close enough and lucky enough. [Disclaimer: this is not intended to imply that all or even the majority of gun owners of any political persuasion are not law-abiding folk, only that a loony with a gun is more dangerous than a loony with a cobblestone.] ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/95 "2010-04-28T13:03:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The point is not the hypocrisy, but that this stuff has happened before. The OP may have never heard of it. Fine. But the point is, few people took it seriously then. Why take it seriously now? > > Sure, Bricker can’t help but make a political jab when he gets the chance. But it really bothers me that I didn’t think much of when I heard this stuff about Bush, but I am concerned about Obama. I really wonder why I’m more afraid of his assassination than Bush’s. My guess would be that the Tea Partiers are even angrier than all the more extreme anti-war protesters. Likely because they (the Tea Partiers) believe they will be personally affected financially and in particular have their taxes raised (if they don’t believe that their taxes were raised already). At least with the anti-war protesters, even the more rabid ones, their stake in the issue and having a motive to threaten President Bush was more abstract. They weren’t going to be drafted, nor were any of their friends or family. They likely didn’t have their international calls wiretapped or if they did, they probably didn’t know it. For those like Cindy Sheehan, their family members who served and died volunteered to do so. Another reason may be that even the more rabid Tea Partiers seem much closer to both the mainstream Tea Party messages and the overall conservative mainstream than those who were threatening or in favor of President Bush’s death. Fox News has adopted, organized, and amplified the Tea Party’s message. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/96 "2010-04-28T16:09:50Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Is this any different than people threatening Gov. Brewer over her signing SB1070? There are crazies on both sides and all of it is unacceptable, Which threats of violence or death were those? I searched and all I could find related to the bill-signing were threats of an economic boycott. I see threats were sent in a letter asking her to step down “or they will be removed” _around April 2_ by a group calling themselves the Guardians of the Free Republics, and that the FBI says more than 30 governors received that letter and that they expect _all 50 governors (Democrat and Republican)_ to eventually receive one. The group responsible is known as a generally anti-goverment group, which suggests an ideology more in line with protests and calls for government resistance from organized groups other than those who would normally be against such a bill on human rights basis. I could be wrong about Governor Brewer receiving threats other than threats of an economic boycott over the signing of the bill; I’m willing to read any cites you provide. Link here: [http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/02/20100402extremist-letters.html](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/02/20100402extremist-letters.html) ---
**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/97 "2010-04-28T17:21:28Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > How did this “broke dick dog” thing get started? It’s disgusting and cringe-worthy and gives me horrible, shuddering nightmares. My problems and wishes don’t mean dick, but boy, do I wish people would use something else, like “broke dick teabagger.” I’ve heard the saying all my life. I had assumed it was common everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/98 "2010-04-28T22:53:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Sure, Bricker can’t help but make a political jab when he gets the chance. But it really bothers me that I didn’t think much of when I heard this stuff about Bush, but I am concerned about Obama. I really wonder why I’m more afraid of his assassination than Bush’s. Three words: President Joe Biden. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/99 "2010-04-28T22:55:31Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Is this any different than people threatening Gov. Brewer over her signing SB1070? There are crazies on both sides and all of it is unacceptable, Still no cites, huh? I guess you lied or just thought you’d slip this one past everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184/100 "2010-04-29T15:56:06Z")
Well, from a scriptural point of view, it’s not all that funny. For as you have judged, so shall you be judged. I gotta think praying for death of another, or in fact any sort of misfortune for others is a pretty harsh level of judgment to invoke. I really despised Richard Nixon, and his associates. I felt they had done the Constitution an incredible violence, and were in fact traitors to their oaths. But at my most vituperative, I never wished death on them. Life in prison, maybe, and traditional banishment for the big Dick, since I believe there is merit to the concept that none may raise a hand against the sovereign. But those are secular matters, and not the appropriate subject of prayer. Hating is bad, and leading others in hatred is a vile thing. Taking joy in your hatred is worse, and elevating hatred to the level of religious doctrine seems to me to be utterly dedicated to a faith of evil. Funny? Nah, not so much. Tris [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/praying-for-obamas-death-really-thats-the-depth-you-nutjobs-have-sunk-to/537184.md?page=6)