# Pre-1965 Movies That Hold Up

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**Created:** [June 28, 2009, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-1965-movies-that-hold-up/501252 "2009-06-28T11:54:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-1965-movies-that-hold-up/501252/81 "2009-06-30T11:58:04Z")

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[Das Cabinet des Dr Caligari](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0010323/) original version  
[2005 english language remake](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0441741/)I caught this on instant watch netflix after watching the original. I was amazed at how watchable it was as I normally hate remakes.

I also saw Night of the Hunter, Mockingbird, Rope, lots of the movies mentioned here on netflix instant watch. I really hope they keep up with the old movies.

There is a box set of Fritz Lang movies that I shamelessly plug … [http://eurekavideo.co.uk/](http://eurekavideo.co.uk/)Eureka is a british company, the films are in german [of course] with english subtitles.

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So many great films already named. If you have cable or satellite and have access to Turner Classic Movies, you will find a veritable treasure trove of pre-1965 movies that hold up.

I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned it already, but frankly “The Wizard of Oz,” needs to be included - and my how it’s held up through the years! I’d also had a couple (more) of my own personal favorites: “The Apartment,” with Jack Lemmon (one of my very favorite stars of all time :)) and “The Mis-Fits,” which turned out to be the last picture for both Marilyn Monroe and Clark Gable. She is in a very fragile state but turns out a great performance, imho. I do so love “Some Like it Hot,” too. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-1965-movies-that-hold-up/501252/83 "2009-06-30T13:38:53Z")

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A lot of what I was thinking of are war films… _The Longest Day_, _In Which We Serve_… but maybe not for a teenage girl.

I also love _Rebel Without A Cause_, .

If she likes “cinema” then try the Eisenstein movies, which are a great experience - start with _Alexander Nevsky_. At least it provides evidence that great direction was coming out of other countries and not just Hollywood. Or watch _Seven Samurai_ and _The Magnificent Seven_ back to back.

Some of the epics can be great watching too - so many of my memories of Christmas Eve back in England revolve around being allowed to stay up to watch _El Cid_ or _Ben Hur_.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-1965-movies-that-hold-up/501252/84 "2009-06-30T14:00:16Z")

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I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but I maybe missed it.

Some Like it Hot - My teenagers love it. They quote it all the time.

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Snow White and the Three Stooges

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> _•Metropolis  
> •Gojira  
> •The Bedford Incident  
> •Forbidden Planet  
> •The Trouble With Harry  
> •The Court Jester  
> •The Thing from Another World  
> •Plan 9 From Outer Space  
> •The Agony and the Ecstasy_

What no "war of the Worlds’ . It was the best of the genre and the best of all the War of the World copies.

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Well kids, here are approximately 186 films from the mid-1960’s or earlier that someone at SDMB thinks you’ll like as much as _Iron Man_.

A lot of them have the word or numeral “seven” in the title:  
_Seventh Voyage of Sinbad  
Seven Samurai  
7 Faces of Dr. Lao  
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs  
Seven Men From Now  
Seven Year Itch  
Seventh Seal  
The Magnificent Seven_

For a variety of reasons, I’ll be adding the following to my Blockbuster queue tomorrow:

_Rope  
Dr. Lao  
The Trouble With Harry  
Rio Bravo  
Singing In the Rain  
The Little Foxes  
Red River_

## …with others to follow in the fullness of time.

The list (and please pardon me if I missed your contribution):

Rear Window  
Duck Soup  
Nosferatu  
Casablanca  
Wizard of Oz  
High Noon  
Hard Day’s Night  
Father Goose  
Harvey  
Rope  
The Searchers  
To Kill a Mockingbird  
A Fistful of Dollars  
Ben-Hur  
The Quiet Man  
The Third Man  
Citizen Kane  
Gone With the Wind  
Metropolis  
Gojira  
The Bedford Incident  
Forbidden Planet  
The Trouble With Harry  
The Court Jester  
The Thing from Another World  
Plan 9 from Outer Space  
The Agony and the Ecstasy  
Brigadoon  
Lawrence of Arabia  
Bridge on the River Kwai  
Treasure of the Sierra Madre  
African Queen  
Invasion of the Body Snatchers  
North by Northwest  
To Have and Have Not  
Rio Bravo  
Only Angels Have Wings  
The Hustler  
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon  
Donovan’s Reef  
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance  
The Horse Soldiers  
The Little Foxes  
Twelve O’Clock High  
Seventh Voyage of Sinbad  
Jason and the Argonauts  
The Adventures of Robin Hood  
Arsenic and Old Lace  
Kind Hearts and Coronets  
Operation Petticoat  
The Red Shoes  
7 Faces of Dr. Lao  
Some Like It Hot  
The Grand Illusion  
Singing in the Rain  
The Seven Samurai  
The Lavender Hill Mob  
The LadyKillers  
Rebel Without a Cause  
The Day the Earth Stood Still  
Bride Of Frankenstein  
Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman  
The Wolfman  
Dracula (Transylvania segment)  
Phantom of the Opera  
The Invisible Man  
The Time Machine  
Roman Holiday  
Sabrina  
Wait Until Dark  
The Haunting  
Psycho  
The Guns of Navarone  
Mary Poppins  
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs  
Fantasia  
Cinderella  
Gulliver’s Travels  
Days of Wine and Roses  
12 Angry Men  
Road To Morocco  
Road To Utopia  
My Favorite Blonde  
The Enemy Below  
The General  
Dial “M” for Murder  
Bringing Up Baby  
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (F. March)  
Design For Living  
Trouble In Paradise  
Double Indemnity  
Sunset Boulevard  
The Apartment  
Wait Until Dark  
Cape Fear  
Shane  
Seven Men From Now  
Freaks  
The Magnificent Ambersons  
Now Voyager  
Dark Victory  
How Green Was My Valley  
A Night at the Opera  
I Happened One Night  
Sullivan’s Travels  
Red River  
The Gold Rush  
Desk Set  
Father of the Bride  
Father’s Little Dividend  
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes  
How to Marry a Millionaire  
Stage Door  
Holiday  
My Man Godfrey  
His Girl Friday  
The Thin Man  
The Awful Truth  
Rebecca  
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir  
All About Eve  
Whisky Galore  
Paths of Glory  
It’s A Wonderful Life  
Goodbye Mr. Chips  
A Matter of Life and Deaths  
The 39 Steps  
M  
Fury  
The Life and Death of Col. Blimp  
The Big Carnival  
Shirley Temple Films  
Fred and Ginger Films  
The Crimson Pirate  
Adam’s Rib  
The Girl Can’t Help It  
Seven Year Itch  
The Philadelphia Story  
Balls of Fire  
Funny Face  
Charade  
Pork Chop Hill  
Giant  
Elmer Gantry  
A Face in the Crowd  
The Sweet Smell of Success  
Dr. Strangelove  
Inherit the Wind  
Gentleman’s Agreement  
Chimes at Midnight  
The Wind  
Love Me Tonight  
Footlight Parade  
Man’s Castle  
It’s a Gift  
The Crime of M. Lange  
Only Angels Have Wings  
Pinocchio  
The Shop Around the Corner  
The Lady Eve  
Meet Me in St. Louis  
La Belle et la Bete  
The Big Sleep  
Black Narcissus  
Intruder in the Dust  
Ugetsu Monogatari  
Ordet  
The Man from Laramie  
The Incredible Shrinking Man  
The Seventh Seal  
Vertigo  
Rio Bravo  
Ride the High Country  
The Naked Kiss  
Breakfast at Tiffany’s  
Night of the Hunter  
The Man Who Knew Too Much  
Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari  
The Mis-Fits  
The Longest Day  
In Which We Serve  
Alexander Nevsky  
The Magnificent Seven  
Snow White and the Three Stooge  
War of the Worlds

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That’s a great list and it was nice of you to take the time to put it together. I was taking notes – now I don’t have to!

I assume (hope) that you’ll report back, let us know how the movies went over.

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Awesome list.

Forgive me if these are already on there. I looked but didn’t see them.

Laura  
Shadow of a Doubt  
House of Wax (the original not the awful remake)

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> … I’d say that a lot of people would prefer “High Noon” to “3:10 to Yuma” and if the production values were the same it could gross more money…

Which\* 3:10 to Yuma\*? The recent one was a remake of an oldie with Glen Ford in the bad guy role. I thought it was much better than the Russell Crowe version.

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Not to pick fights, but I have to disagree strongly with a couple of entries on the list:

**Dracula**. Does not hold up well AT ALL to anyone accustomed to modern horror films. The scene in Dracula’s castle where there are 'possums and armadillos roaming the basement will have any bright teenager laughing hysterically. Not to mention the stilted dialogue.  
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Wait Until Dark\*\*. I know this scared the bejeebers out of a generation of baby boomers, but it doesn’t hold up. Having watched it as an adult Gen Xer, I was very underwhelmed. The tension and scares just weren’t there for me. There was one “BOO!” moment and that was it.

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I’d suggest _The Mark of Zorro_, in fact I just got this a few days ago and still enjoy it as much as when I was a kid.

While it’s been a bit since I’ve seen any of them, I’d think some of the _Abbot and Castello_ movies would still hold up. Although I think the target audience is younger than a teenager. I enjoyed them around the 8 - 11 age I think.

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Wait, is that list closed? Because you need some Errol Flynn pirate movies on there! Namely:

Captain Blood  
The Sea Hawk

Your daughter will appreciate it. 🙂

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I saw Notorious for the first time this weekend. Great chemistry between Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergman.

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I didn’t see “The Bad Seed” and “The Miracle Worker”. Another vote for “A Face in the Crowd”.

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**The Oxbow Incident** - 1943, Henry Fonda  
**The Odd Couple** - okay, it’s 1968  
**It’s A Wonderful Life**  
**The Flight of the Phoenix** - 1965, James Stewart  
**Zulu** - 1964, with a VERY young Michael Caine

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> [@pohjonen](#):
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> I didn’t see “The Bad Seed” and “The Miracle Worker”. Another vote for “A Face in the Crowd”.

I thought _The Bad Seed_ was awful. Great story, but Patty McCormack was terribly wooden. Maybe she was supposed to be, being a psychopath and all, but I thought she sucked. I don’t think she had much of a career after this, so maybe I’m right.

Now just wait, somebody’ll pop in with an IMDB list of 50 movies she was in. 😛

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> Well kids, here are approximately 186 films from the mid-1960’s or earlier that someone at SDMB thinks you’ll like as much as _Iron Man_.
> 
> A lot of them have the word or numeral “seven” in the title:  
> _Seventh Voyage of Sinbad  
> Seven Samurai  
> 7 Faces of Dr. Lao  
> Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs  
> Seven Men From Now  
> Seven Year Itch  
> Seventh Seal  
> The Magnificent Seven_
> 
> For a variety of reasons, I’ll be adding the following to my Blockbuster queue tomorrow:
> 
> _Rope  
> Dr. Lao  
> The Trouble With Harry  
> Rio Bravo  
> Singing In the Rain  
> The Little Foxes  
> Red River_
> 
> ## …with others to follow in the fullness of time.
> 
> The list (and please pardon me if I missed your contribution):  
> .  
> .  
> .

Awesome list. However I still haven’t seen one of my favorites mentioned: “Stalag 17”  
(If I have overlooked it, forgive me)

I also want to Nth “My Man Godfrey”. Although set in the depression, I think the amazing dialog and characters make this movie timeless. I keep thinking this would be ripe for a remake…and then thank the stars that they haven’t tried 😉

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