# pre-poll baker's dozen Dem candidates for 2016

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 25, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-bakers-dozen-dem-candidates-for-2016/653879 "2013-03-25T01:42:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-bakers-dozen-dem-candidates-for-2016/653879/81 "2013-04-06T23:39:36Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> . . . national polling already shows support for many of those proposed measures is now below 50%. About the one major gun control proposal right now that enjoys massive support _still_ is universal background checks (which I don’t see how any reasonable person opposes.) [This is from a CBS poll, in late march only 47% of Americans supported stricter gun control measures, down from 57% in December just after Newtown]. . .

Really?

[http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/04/polls-find-continued-support-for-stricter-gun-laws-and-a-path-to-citizenship/](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/04/polls-find-continued-support-for-stricter-gun-laws-and-a-path-to-citizenship/)

April 4, 2013:

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> A Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday found majority support for a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. An overwhelming majority (9 in 10) favors universal background checks, even though nearly half of voters think the government will use that information to confiscate legally owned guns.
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> Similarly, an inaugural Morning Joe/Marist poll found that nearly 9 in 10 Americans support background checks for gun owners, nearly 6 in 10 support legislation banning the sale of assault weapons, and 6 in 10 support stricter laws over all concerning the sale of firearms.

This kind of thinking on the part of the NRA is not going to win their cause a lot of adherents. True, it’s a fake, but not one part of it disagrees with NRA doctrine which is very simple. “More guns are always better.”

[![](https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/432975564-0b95d69722709d0751e8db68757ceede668ec4508b4558cc750efa403557031e-d?f=webp "Your Daily Gun") ](https://vimeo.com/62917871)

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-bakers-dozen-dem-candidates-for-2016/653879/82 "2013-04-06T23:50:21Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Really?
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> [Polls Find Continued Support for Stricter Gun Laws and a Path to Citizenship - The New York Times](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/04/polls-find-continued-support-for-stricter-gun-laws-and-a-path-to-citizenship/)

Yes, only 47% of Americans feel we should have stricter gun laws than we do now, down from 57% a few months prior by the same polling organization. [cite](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324883604578398843653264474.html#project%3DGUNSTATES20130404%26articleTabs%3Darticle) Anyway the AWB is a dead issue, Feinstein pushed it and it’s been rejected. Her own majority leader didn’t make it part of the legislation and only left it up as a possible amendment that he knew could never get enough votes. In Harry Reid’s own words he said the banning of those types of weapons (the AWB) not only doesn’t have the 60 votes it needs to clear a filibuster it “probably doesn’t have 40 votes in the Senate.” It’s not a realistic political issue at this time.

Anyway, my comment was in relation to how it might effect the politics of the Democratic primary in 2016, not an invitation to turn this thread into a gun control debate, which your post that was solely focused on the gun issue does.

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