# Pre-Poll Data Collecting -- FEMALE Westerns Stars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 3, 2015, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520 "2015-06-03T10:54:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/21 "2015-06-04T01:40:48Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Gail Davis as _Annie Oakley_.

Why not the real Annie Oakley herself? As a performer in Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show she helped to \*invent \*the Western genre.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/22 "2015-06-04T01:53:59Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Why not the real Annie Oakley herself? As a performer in Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show she helped to \*invent \*the Western genre.

Interesting prospect!

[Annie Oakley (1860–1926)](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0643007/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)

FWIW: Betty Hutton was Annie for me.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/23 "2015-06-04T03:36:46Z")

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More:

[Debra Paget](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0656428/?ref_=nv_sr_6)  
[Faith Domergue](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0231409/?ref_=tt_cl_t2)  
[Susan Cabot](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0127693/?ref_=tt_cl_t3)  
[Anne Baxter](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000879/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Felicia Farr](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0268012/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Jeanne Crain](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002022/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Julie Adams](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0011105/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Patricia Neal](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0623658/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Claire Bloom](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001954/?ref_=tt_ov_st)  
[Barbara Rush](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0750640/?ref_=tt_cl_t6)

I sort of cheated on this list by thinking of some of my favorite **guys** and checking the Westerns they made to see who their **co-stars** were! 😃

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/24 "2015-06-04T14:05:52Z")

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[Pamela Reed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GSZwG_s-8A) as Belle Star in The Long Riders

[Robin Weigert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKEZbgaqJWo) as Calamity Jane in Deadwood

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/25 "2015-06-04T14:12:21Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> [Pamela Reed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GSZwG_s-8A) as Belle Star in The Long Riders
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> [Robin Weigert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKEZbgaqJWo) as Calamity Jane in Deadwood

Yes, indeed! Outstanding choices!

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/26 "2015-06-04T14:13:07Z")

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[Cathrine Ross](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0008494/?ref_=tt_cl_t3)  
[Laura San Giacomo](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0023707/?ref_=tt_cl_t2)  
[Mary Steenburgen](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0456447/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_97)

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/27 "2015-06-04T14:31:34Z")

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Whaddayaknow! We’re already over 50 names in just over 25 posts!

Updated list:

+++++++++ Female Westerns Stars – Movies and TV +++++++++

Julie Adams  
Jean Arthur  
Anne Baxter  
Amanda Blake  
Claire Bloom

Susan Cabot  
Tantoo Cardinal  
Jeanne Crain  
Joan Crawford  
Linda Darnell

Gail Davis  
Dana Delany  
Angie Dickinson  
Marlene Dietrich  
Faith Domergue

Joanne Dru  
Dale Evans  
Linda Evans  
Felicia Farr  
Rhonda Fleming

Jane Fonda  
Jodie Foster  
Susan Hayward  
Betty Hutton  
Katy Jurado

Madeline Kahn  
Sondra Locke  
Virginia Mayo  
Mercedes McCambridge  
Vera Miles

Marilyn Monroe  
Elizabeth Montgomery  
Mildred Natwick  
Patricia Neal  
Maureen O’Hara

Joanna Pacula  
Debra Paget  
Jean Peters  
Pamela Reed  
Katharine Ross

Barbara Rush  
Jane Russell  
Laura San Giacomo  
Jane Seymour  
Jean Simmons

Barbara Stanwyck  
Mary Steenburgen  
Sharon Stone  
Madeleine Stowe  
Gene Tierney

Robin Weigert  
Raquel Welch  
= 52  
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What’s going to be too cool is if we wind up with more women than men in the Final Poll!

Thing is, which woman can rival Clint Eastwood, or even John Wayne?

About time for a poll, don’t you think? I’ll give it a few more days to see what shakes out.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/28 "2015-06-04T14:43:06Z")

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I thought Kim Darby kicked ass in **True Grit**!

Katharine Ross ( **Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid** )

I’m a little on the fence about whether to include Annie Oakley. An Ohio girl, she never went out west except as a performer. But, that describes most actresses as well, so…

If we’re including Sharon Stone, we should include Lucy Liu ( **Shanghai Noon** ) as well.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/29 "2015-06-04T14:58:26Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> Mustn’t leave out [Tantoo Cardinal](https://youtu.be/997bQhO7ez4)!

Watching this clip has reminded me of

[Mary McDonnell](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001521/?ref_=tt_cl_t2) from Dances with Wolves [Dances with Wolves (1990) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099348/?ref_=nv_sr_1) (1990)

[Sacheen Littlefeather](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0514693/?ref_=fn_nm_nm_1) who did some acting but may best be known for delivering Brando’s refusal note for his Oscar!

[Rita Coolidge](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0177643/?ref_=tt_cl_t14) from Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070518/?ref\_=nm\_flmg\_act\_6](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070518/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6) (1973)

… among others.

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**Author:** ![bunyupp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bunyupp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bunyupp)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/30 "2015-06-04T15:07:23Z")

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[Melody Patterson](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0666321/) from **F Troop**.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/31 "2015-06-04T16:51:35Z")

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I’m trying to remember a performance like [The Legend of Walks Far Woman (1982)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084239/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1) (Raquel Welch) that was similar in theme and intensity to Robert Redford’s [Jeremiah Johnson (1972).](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068762/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

The main character had to face all manner of hardship and peril and it made the faint-of-heart want to curl up on the Barcalounger with a six-pack or a group of Martinis.

Does that sort of thing ring any bells? Which woman would be good at that sort of sustained stamina and determination?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/32 "2015-06-04T17:29:39Z")

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I’d like to modestly propose that you cannot be a western STAR if you’ve only appeared in ONE western. So the various one-offs provided just prove that they may be talented actresses, but with no real relationship to the genre. That will thin things out a little…

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/33 "2015-06-04T18:32:50Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> I’d like to modestly propose that you cannot be a western STAR if you’ve only appeared in ONE western. So the various one-offs provided just prove that they may be talented actresses, but with no real relationship to the genre. That will thin things out a little…

It is my hope that when it comes time to vote on these actresses, criteria such as the one you’ve mentioned will affect voters’ choices. I’d prefer not to drop names from the slate based on my own judgment of their long-term Westerns status.

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/34 "2015-06-04T20:50:49Z")

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Susanne Pleshette, in one of the Support Your Local \_\_\_\_ movies.

Dianne Lane, in _Lonesome Dove_

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**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/35 "2015-06-04T21:35:12Z")

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Patricia Blair, in both _ **The Rifleman** _ and _ **Daniel Boone** _.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/36 "2015-06-05T13:01:30Z")

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To get a feel for which of these nominees are actually popular I’ve started

> **[First pass at Your Favorite Westerns FEMALE Stars](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=758650)**
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> Just to test the water with the input we’ve gotten at … Pre-Poll Data Collecting – FEMALE Westerns Stars … let’s see what your TOP TEN from this group would look like: Honor System Anonymous Poll. Mention any others not on the list, either here...

First pass at Your Favorite Westerns FEMALE Stars  
06-04-2015, 09:00 PM

Please continue to add names – either here or in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-female-westerns-stars/721520/37 "2015-06-09T07:16:50Z")

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A follow-up poll is also now up at

> **[Second Pass -- Your Favorite Westerns FEMALE Stars](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=759045)**
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> Background for this poll has come from Pre-Poll Data Collecting – FEMALE Westerns Stars 06-03-2015, 05:54 AM Zeldar First pass at Your Favorite Westerns FEMALE Stars 06-04-2015, 09:00 PM Zeldar (specifically this post) Please vote for...

Second Pass – Your Favorite Westerns FEMALE Stars  
06-09-2015, 01:55 AM

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