# Pre-Poll Data Collecting -- Westerns Stars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 2, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651 "2015-04-02T20:10:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/21 "2015-04-03T14:52:47Z")

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Dean Martin  
L. Q. Jones  
Earnest Borgnine  
Strother Martin  
William Holden  
Ben Johnson

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/22 "2015-04-03T14:56:58Z")

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Jack Palance  
Dustin Hoffman

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/23 "2015-04-03T15:03:44Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Hey, you left Lee Marvin’s horse off the list. The horse shared an Oscar - he needs to be represented!
> 
> _In his Oscar acceptance speech, Lee Marvin concluded by saying, “I think, though, that half of this belongs to a horse somewhere out in San Fernando Valley,” a reference to the horse Kid Shelleen rode, which appeared to be as drunk as Shelleen was_.

So let it be written; so let it be done! (said by Yul Brynner, who ought to be on this list anyway, and which should usher in other such quadrupeds as folks are prone to mention – but I won’t! 😃 )

I’ll repost the updated list after more new arrivals. The count (not including dupes) is now at over 60 as of my previous post. Keep 'em coming!

We may have to resort to a bracket instead of a big old poll to do this list justice.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/24 "2015-04-03T15:09:08Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> We may have to resort to a bracket instead of a big old poll to do this list justice.

I’d advise bracketing so John Wayne and Clint Eastwood square off in the final.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/25 "2015-04-03T15:15:53Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’d advise bracketing so John Wayne and Clint Eastwood square off in the final.

Yes, indeed! I’m not all that good at brackets, so if somebody else would like that chore – whenever the time comes – I would not only not object, I would be happy!

My idea was to wait until the thread has been idle for a few days (5 maybe) before launching into whatever voting we do.

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ETA: It might help if we add to this short list those who ought to be in the Top Ten so they’re not up against each other in the early rounds.

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/26 "2015-04-03T15:21:56Z")

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I’m surprised no one has mentioned:

Sam Elliott

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/27 "2015-04-03T15:30:03Z")

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Terence Hill  
Bud Spencer  
Franco Nero

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/28 "2015-04-03T15:36:43Z")

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Kevin Kostner  
Val Kilmer  
Wes Studi

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/29 "2015-04-03T15:51:48Z")

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Here’s another old thread on the general topic that may provide some help coming up with names not yet mentiond:

[The LAST Great Western?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=196566) which was active from 07-10-2003, 06:50 AM through 07-10-2003, 06:01 PM and which has to have been one of my earliest threads! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/30 "2015-04-03T16:03:42Z")

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Steve McQueen  
Yul Brynner  
Charles Bronson  
James Coburn  
Johnny Mack Brown

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/31 "2015-04-03T16:14:02Z")

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Here’s an update as of **Chefguy** ’s Post #30:

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Broncho Billy Anderson  
James Arness  
Gene Autry  
Parley Baer  
Tom Berenger

Ward Bond  
Richard Boone  
Earnest Borgnine  
Walter Brennan  
Charles Bronson Charles Bronson

Johnny Mack Brown  
Yul Brynner  
Smiley Burnette  
Yakima Canutt  
Hopalong Cassidy

James Coburn  
Chuck Connors  
William Conrad  
Gary Cooper  
Kevin Costner

Russell Crowe  
Ken Curtis  
John Dehner  
James Drury  
Robert Duvall

Clint Eastwood  
Jack Elam  
Sam Elliott  
Henry Fonda  
Glenn Ford

James Garner  
Chief Dan George  
Graham Greene  
Clu Gulager  
Gene Hackman

William S. Hart  
Terence Hill  
Dustin Hoffman  
William Holden  
Arthur Hunnicutt

Ben Johnson  
L. Q. Jones  
Tommy Lee Jones  
Val Kilmer  
Alan Ladd

Burt Lancaster  
Lash LaRue  
Dean Martin  
Strother Martin Strother Martin  
Lee Marvin

Lee Marvin’s horse  
Joel McCrea  
Steve McQueen Steve McQueen  
Tom Mix Tom Mix Tom Mix  
Clayton Moore Clayton Moore

Audie Murphy  
Franco Nero  
Paul Newman  
Warren Oates Warren Oates  
Jack Palance

Slim Pickens  
Robert Redford  
Burt Reynolds  
Roy Rogers  
Randolph Scott

Tom Selleck  
Jay Silverheels Jay Silverheels  
Bud Spencer  
Charles Starrett  
Bob Steele

Jimmy Stewart  
Woody Strode  
Wes Studi Wes Studi  
Dub Taylor  
Lee Van Cleef

Clint Walker  
Eli Wallach  
John Wayne  
Dennis Weaver

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/32 "2015-04-03T16:45:42Z")

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Jeff Bridges  
Josh Brolin

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/33 "2015-04-03T16:55:34Z")

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Ken Maynard

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/34 "2015-04-03T17:05:13Z")

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Guy Madison (Wild Bill Hickock)  
Duncan Renaldo (The Cisco Kid)  
Dean Martin

A few more sidekicks and regulars:  
Harry Carey, Jr.  
Chill Wills  
Gabby Hayes  
Andy Devine

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/35 "2015-04-03T17:36:08Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> We may have to resort to a bracket instead of a big old poll to do this list justice.

Or is it possible to set up a poll where people get to spread ten votes among as many candidates as they choose? Then you could have several rounds of voting, eliminating the lowest vote-getters in each round.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/36 "2015-04-03T17:45:21Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Or is it possible to set up a poll where people get to spread ten votes among as many candidates as they choose? Then you could have several rounds of voting, eliminating the lowest vote-getters in each round.

Yes, we’ve done that sort of thing before and it might be a good option here.

I had even entertained the idea of breaking the list into decades or periods so that it might be more of an apples to apples thing. That would let some of the old-timers (30s-50s) be on a level field and not competing against the newer crowd.

Other options are still worth considering. Let’s hear some more ideas.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/37 "2015-04-03T20:33:17Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Yes, we’ve done that sort of thing before and it might be a good option here.
> 
> I had even entertained the idea of breaking the list into decades or periods so that it might be more of an apples to apples thing. That would let some of the old-timers (30s-50s) be on a level field and not competing against the newer crowd.
> 
> Other options are still worth considering. Let’s hear some more ideas.

Some of these guys were more TV cowboys than movie cowboys, so that may be a division. Chuck Connors and James Arness come to mind immediately, along with Guy Madison and Richard Boone.

Nick Adams was another TV star with Johnny Yuma, The Rebel. I think Johnny Cash sang the theme song.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/38 "2015-04-03T20:40:50Z")

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[Whatever happened to Randolph Scott](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h30MPb62eXE)  
Whatever happened to Johnny Mack Brown  
And Alan Rocky Lane  
Whatever happened to Lash Larue  
I’d love to see them again  
Whatever happened to Smiley Burnett  
Tim Holt and Gene Autry  
Whatever happened to all of these  
Has happened to the best of me

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**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/39 "2015-04-03T21:16:50Z")

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If you’re doing a TV division then Michael Landon should be added to the list.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pre-poll-data-collecting-westerns-stars/716651/40 "2015-04-03T21:21:50Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Yes, we’ve done that sort of thing before and it might be a good option here.

My only objection to that is that in all other incarnations of that kind of polling, simple math shows that few people rarely stick to this model. I’d prefer one-person/one-vote and that will thin out the lower-grade candidates easily.

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> I had even entertained the idea of breaking the list into decades or periods so that it might be more of an apples to apples thing. That would let some of the old-timers (30s-50s) be on a level field and not competing against the newer crowd.

I agree, this is a more fair way to approach things, IMHO.

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