# Preacher -- The New Show / Old Comic Now Airing on AMC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371 "2016-05-22T16:15:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/241 "2016-07-13T17:44:11Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Dark side I’d be OK with, but it seems right now he’s mostly just being a dick, and I have to say it’s dampening my enthusiasm for the show. I think that’s how we’re supposed to feel. After he ran off everybody at the lunch table, he’s not supposed to get any sympathy. Does anybody else thing that Lucy Griffiths sort of resembles Bernadette Peters? I kept thinking she reminded me of somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/242 "2016-07-13T18:08:11Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Or as his name suggests, he subscribes to the Norse gods? Maybe he decided to serve Loki or Thor? Excellent point, actually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/243 "2016-07-13T18:09:23Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Dark side I’d be OK with, but it seems right now he’s mostly just being a dick, and I have to say it’s dampening my enthusiasm for the show. No more of a dick than Walter White. The modern anti-hero is alive and well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/244 "2016-07-13T18:10:31Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I think that’s how we’re supposed to feel. After he ran off everybody at the lunch table, he’s not supposed to get any sympathy. > > Does anybody else thing that Lucy Griffiths sort of resembles Bernadette Peters? I kept thinking she reminded me of somebody. She was also Nora on True Blood. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/245 "2016-07-13T18:19:35Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > I think that’s how we’re supposed to feel. After he ran off everybody at the lunch table, he’s not supposed to get any sympathy. I get that. I’m just not sure I want to watch that. YMMV. > [@Biffster](#): > > No more of a dick than Walter White. The modern anti-hero is alive and well. I never watched Breaking Bad. But ‘anti-hero’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘dick’; an anti-hero may be an interesting character, have believable motivation, show development, and so on; a dick’s just a dick who does dickish things for the dick of it. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/246 "2016-07-13T18:32:28Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > She was also Nora on True Blood. I saw that once I looked her IMDB page up. It’s been a while since I watched TB, I didn’t make the connection. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/247 "2016-07-13T18:47:21Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I never watched Breaking Bad. But ‘anti-hero’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘dick’; an anti-hero may be an interesting character, have believable motivation, show development, and so on; a dick’s just a dick who does dickish things for the dick of it. I think Jesse’s problem right now is that his sense of right and wrong has stopped making sense and he’s trying to rationalize it all. He takes his promise to his dad to “be one of the good guys” very seriously, and he believes that God doesn’t make mistakes and his having Genesis must therefore be part of God’s plan - but he sent a repentant Christian soul to Hell in a fit of rage without even thinking about it. Therefore, he has to tell himself that it was God’s will that he damn Eugene, and that he deserved to go to Hell. He’s probably also angry at himself that he backed out of his plan to use his Bene Gesserit Voice at the Sunday service to tell the entire congregation to “Serve God”, because God obviously gave him this power so he could use it to save people and be one of the good guys, and by not using it, he’s defying God. He’s probably inching towards a breaking point that’s going to snap him out of this dilemma. If what I’ve read about the comics is going to apply here, it’ll probably be something along the lines of the angels telling him that God has gone MIA and hasn’t been planning anything for anyone ever since Genesis showed up that causes him to stop being a dick to his friends. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/248 "2016-07-14T00:39:47Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > _Shite_ is also a popular pronunciation in Australia. > > ETA: Also Ireland, where Cassidy is from, and they don’t often take kindly to being called “Brits” there. Couldn’t care less. I was talking about the angels, and I’m sure the Irish love the alcoholic drunk stereotype. I’m sure Texans love the ignorant redneck trailer park trash stereotype that is the whole town. This isn’t a pretty show. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/249 "2016-07-14T01:30:18Z")
Well, the character was created by an Irishman, so I’m not sure how much room there is to complain, there. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/250 "2016-07-14T02:13:48Z")
Uncle Walter is Irish?? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/251 "2016-07-16T02:27:05Z")
New episode Sunday. Here are the IMDb ratings for the first seven episodes. Not too shabby. [http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160716/ba8fedad903f9afe8c16f970e616ef6e.png](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160716/ba8fedad903f9afe8c16f970e616ef6e.png) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/252 "2016-07-16T12:00:27Z")
I enjoyed the comics long ago and tried to watch the first episode tonight. It was just boring and the characters were speaking drivel. I started fast-forwarding quite a bit and then just turned it off. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/253 "2016-07-16T18:06:57Z")
The comic was the most anti-religious thing I’ve ever read. The TV series reminds me more of those old leprechaun stories where the main character has to deal with an overly literal spirit. I like it, but it makes me wonder why they even bothered to license the comic. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/254 "2016-07-18T16:50:15Z")
“Are you OK, Clyde?” “Not so much. Preacher shot my dick off.” We get some background on Odin in this episode - his family died in a ski lift accident on a vacation he didn’t go on because of work, and that lead him to decide the only real god is “the god of meat”, which is what he’s been serving in accordance with Jesse’s command. Fiore confirms that it’s possible to bring Eugene back from Hell, but after Genesis breaks the coffee can and re-enters Jesse, the pair give up on trying and take off. I assume this means that they’re going with the Saint of Killers as their next best hope to get Genesis out of him for good. I wonder - what _is_ the Eugene that Jesse’s been talking to in this episode? The angels can’t see it. Is it a product of his own guilty conscience, or is it some other form of celestial being? I genuinely teared up a bit when I realized what the whole subplot with Tulip and Brewski the dog was leading to - she fed him to Cassidy to heal his burns. Really felt like she’d formed a bond with him by the time she lead him to his fate, too. Don’t know what to make of the final scene, where we see a man run down into some sort of control room, look at a valve where the needle is up to eleven, and press a “venting” button to lower it before sitting down to read the paper. Feels like some sort of gas explosion is coming up in the season’s denouement. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/255 "2016-07-18T17:22:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I genuinely teared up a bit when I realized what the whole subplot with Tulip and Brewski the dog was leading to - she fed him to Cassidy to heal his burns. Really felt like she’d formed a bond with him by the time she lead him to his fate, too. Have we seen her with that dog before? I didn’t remember the pooch at all. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/256 "2016-07-18T17:38:52Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Have we seen her with that dog before? I didn’t remember the pooch at all. She adopted it earlier in the episode. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/257 "2016-07-18T17:47:22Z")
_(Nevermind, need to refresh window before posting. Duke of Rat covered it._) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/258 "2016-07-19T02:13:25Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Are you OK, Clyde?” “Not so much. Preacher shot my dick off.” > > We get some background on Odin in this episode - his family died in a ski lift accident on a vacation he didn’t go on because of work, and that lead him to decide the only real god is “the god of meat”, which is what he’s been serving in accordance with Jesse’s command. Fiore confirms that it’s possible to bring Eugene back from Hell, but after Genesis breaks the coffee can and re-enters Jesse, the pair give up on trying and take off. I assume this means that they’re going with the Saint of Killers as their next best hope to get Genesis out of him for good. > > I wonder - what _is_ the Eugene that Jesse’s been talking to in this episode? The angels can’t see it. Is it a product of his own guilty conscience, or is it some other form of celestial being? > > I genuinely teared up a bit when I realized what the whole subplot with Tulip and Brewski the dog was leading to - she fed him to Cassidy to heal his burns. Really felt like she’d formed a bond with him by the time she lead him to his fate, too. > > Don’t know what to make of the final scene, where we see a man run down into some sort of control room, look at a valve where the needle is up to eleven, and press a “venting” button to lower it before sitting down to read the paper. Feels like some sort of gas explosion is coming up in the season’s denouement. A very powerful episode I thought—comedic and darkly disturbing at the same time. Apparition Eugene was great. He reminded me of Tommy Gavin’s cousin Jimmy in Rescue Me. He’s real to Jesse and it’s the real actor playing the part. That’s what matters. I believe control board guy is connected to the buildup of methane gas or something that we see every once in a while when those surface vents open up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/259 "2016-07-19T04:51:22Z")
I need more Cowboy than [Cowbell](https://vimeo.com/55624839). Only like two episodes left? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/260 "2016-07-19T14:00:12Z")
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