# Preacher -- The New Show / Old Comic Now Airing on AMC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371 "2016-05-22T16:15:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/281 "2016-07-25T23:25:07Z")
In retrospect, I did get a very “protective parent” vibe from the scene where Fiore scolded Genesis and Deblanc told him to stop. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/282 "2016-07-26T04:34:02Z")
Although different from the comic in origin (and how could they film it as the comic origin) I’m cool with the Saint’s recruitment. To be sent on a mission against Jesse from out of HELL works. He’s still about to reign hell and destruction in upcoming episodes, as we can hope! ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/283 "2016-07-26T06:43:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > He’s still about to reign hell and destruction in upcoming episodes, as we can hope! Sunday will be the season finale. EDIT: Oh yeah, and this week I finally upgraded my sound system; now instead of the regular tv speakers I have real speakers and a subwoofer. This episode of Preacher was a perfect way to demo my new sound system. Yummy! ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/284 "2016-07-26T14:25:52Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > If the Saints bullets are lethal, that poses a problem in Ep 9. Technically, I think he’s not the Saint quite yet, just trapped in Hell. But when he gets out… (he did show some aptitude for the job, though) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/285 "2016-07-26T15:54:16Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Technically, I think he’s not the Saint quite yet, just trapped in Hell. But when he gets out… (he did show some aptitude for the job, though) Ah, good point. So the bullets might not actually be absolutely lethal just yet. That might explain why Fiore didn’t freak about DeBlanc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/286 "2016-07-26T19:51:59Z")
I really liked Cassidy’s ‘I can get you an angel hand’, echoing Walter’s ‘I can get you a toe’ from The Big Lebowski, after having been ordered to tell the truth by Jessy in a previous episode and professing his hatred of the film… ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/287 "2016-07-26T21:36:43Z")
> [@Tarwater](#): > > There was plenty of subtext pointing in that direction (one of them being from Hell), and this episode seemed to all but confirm it. Yes, “architect and serial killer” seems like a strong clue. (I wonder what will happen to Fiore’s comics?) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/288 "2016-07-27T01:49:20Z")
IIRC, Garth Ennis, the creator of _Preacher_, said some of the inspiration for The Saint of Killers came from Clint Eastwood’s Western characters like The Man with No Name and William Munny. I think there’s a certain parallel with the Cowboy’s scene in the saloon and the climax of _Unforgiven_. In both cases, the gunfighter walks into a saloon and starts a gunfight, killing a bunch of people. William Munny, however, gives “any man don’t want to git killed, [a chance to] better clear on out the back”; the Cowboy just kills everyone there–man, woman, or child. Proving he is the person who can become the new “Angel of Death”–The Saint of Killers. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/289 "2016-07-27T02:01:59Z")
Too late to add in edit: They both go to the bar to pour a shot after they’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/290 "2016-07-27T02:03:33Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > No, I remember the ‘origins of Genesis’ parents’ conversation; this was something else. But it will take a while to find. > > I did do a quick search to see if the dialogue I’m thinking of is online; I found some Tumblr pages in which people discuss the theory that Fiore is an angel and DeBlanc a demon (and also that they are a gay couple!)—but no one had posted the show-excerpt I’m thinking of. So I’ll leave it for now. I read this post at work today, and was thinking, “That’s totally wrong, and I know just the scene that proves it. As soon as I get home, I’ll watch it, and quote it verbatim to show that person on the internet _just how wrong they are!_” So when I got home, I watched the end of “South Will Rise Again,” the episode where Jesse finally talks to DeBlanc and Fiore, and it has this exchange: Jesse: Where exactly are you guys from? DeBlanc: Exactly? Heaven. _\_ DeBlanc, cutting him off: **Both** of us. And now I’m thinking you’re right. One of those guys is definitely not from heaven. At least, not lately. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/291 "2016-07-27T20:23:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …So when I got home, I watched the end of “South Will Rise Again,” the episode where Jesse finally talks to DeBlanc and Fiore, and it has this exchange: > > Jesse: Where exactly are you guys from? > DeBlanc: Exactly? Heaven. > _\_ > DeBlanc, cutting him off: **Both** of us. > > And now I’m thinking you’re right. One of those guys is definitely not from heaven. > At least, not lately. YES, that was it! (Thanks–now I don’t have to find the time to look for the scene!) (And there’s also the travel-agent scene mentioned a few posts up, in which the agent asks them for their jobs-in-life: “serial killer” for Deblanc and “architect” for Fiore. Those don’t _prove_ Heavenly or Hellish origins, but they are at least suggestive.) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/292 "2016-07-27T20:36:00Z")
I assumed those answers were just what they thought was a good occupation for someone destined for Hell. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/293 "2016-07-30T22:34:44Z")
Looking forward with great interest to the 90 minute season finale tomorrow? Want to see the first five minutes? Check it out: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rmVrXthAHXM/maxresdefault.jpg "Preacher: The First Five Minutes of the Season 1 Finale") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmVrXthAHXM) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/294 "2016-07-31T09:45:18Z")
All day Preacher marathon on AMC Sunday, July 31, leading into the season finale Sunday evening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/295 "2016-07-31T22:58:23Z")
[![](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160731/18519d8b1ebf3007c90188a38e1cb498.jpg) ](http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160731/18519d8b1ebf3007c90188a38e1cb498.jpg) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/296 "2016-08-01T02:32:23Z")
Well, that was good. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/297 "2016-08-01T03:42:24Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Well, that was good. What were some of your favorite parts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/298 "2016-08-01T09:25:35Z")
First thing that occurs to me; Annville’s power was supplied entirely by the methane plant, fed by the waste from Quincannon’s cows, which ignited to cause the fireball that blew the place up. The church was _literally_ destroyed by a mountain of bullshit. I think Ennis would be proud of the effort that went into making that punchline possible. I twigged early on in the scene with “God” that he wasn’t the real God - he seemed to be hamming it up way too much, a la Star Trek V. I thought the twist was going to be that Jesse had gotten one of Deblanc’s hands and called Hell instead - “God” calling himself the bright morning star (I.e. Lucifer) seemed to be pointing in that direction, but I guess not. Fiore returns to Earth alone. Maybe Deblanc truly is dead? It definitely seemed like the Saint of Killers permakilled the seraph in the final scene. (At least his comics were still there.) The music in this episode was spot-on - Johnny Cash’s cover of “Personal Jesus” in the scene with Carlos, Emily playing the church out to “96 Tears”, and the cover of “No Rain” over the scene where the townsfolk start killing each other over learning that God is MIA, and so forth. The Savage and the Prairie Dog hang themselves together from the same tree where the Indians were hung back in the Saint’s day. (Another Easter Egg: Annville was founded in 1882, one year after the Saint massacred the people of Ratwater.) Best quote from the show: “True story - I once smoked some angel dust, drank an 8-pack of Red Bull, and went to a Bieber concert. This is weirder than that.” Overall, season 1 was pretty slow paced and took awhile to get the story moving, but it did its job of setting up the main characters and the reason for their quest, and it gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect in season 2 - Jesse, Tulip, and Cassidy on the road, searching for God, while the Saint of Killers pursues them. A shame we’ll have to wait until next year to find out what happens next. In the meanwhile, I should probably get around to reading the comics. Anyone know if there’s some sort of “Complete Preacher” trade paperback or box set or something? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/299 "2016-08-01T12:43:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Best quote from the show: “True story - I once smoked some angel dust, drank an 8-pack of Red Bull, and went to a Bieber concert. This is weirder than that.” So that’s what he said! Hilarious! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/300 "2016-08-01T14:14:48Z")
I’ll be pissed if Leblanc is really dead, and killed off so nonchalantly after the reveal of his & Fiore’s relationship. All those pictures of lost pets, is Tulip responsible for that? I might have cared that the Savage guy hung himself if he’d played a part in the show before this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371.md?page=16)