# Preacher -- The New Show / Old Comic Now Airing on AMC **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371 "2016-05-22T16:15:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/121 "2016-06-06T15:53:07Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I think it’s because Genesis likes where it is. > > My conjecture is that Jessie didn’t blow up like the Christian Reverend in Africa, the Satanist Priest in Russia, and Tom Cruise, because, unlike those three, he was having a crisis of faith. His duality (a Bad Man[sup]TM[/sup] trying to be Good) reflects Genesis’ nature. Interesting… ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/122 "2016-06-06T16:16:31Z")
I found it oddly refreshing that the ritual didn’t include Latin chanting. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/123 "2016-06-06T16:25:23Z")
And a quick search tells me he sang a [lullaby published in 1889](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wynken,_Blynken,_and_Nod). ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/124 "2016-06-06T20:14:42Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I think it’s because Genesis likes where it is. > > My conjecture is that Jessie didn’t blow up like the Christian Reverend in Africa, the Satanist Priest in Russia, and Tom Cruise, because, unlike those three, he was having a crisis of faith. His duality (a Bad Man[sup]TM[/sup] trying to be Good) reflects Genesis’ nature. I didn’t know the name of the ‘force’ - thanks. But I agree with your conjecture - as it is functionally what I told SimWife when we were discussing this yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/125 "2016-06-06T22:20:46Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I don’t think he’s torn as much as confused at this point. I think he’s torn. He’s all out of faith. This is how he feels. He’s cold and he’s ashamed, lying naked on the floor. Nothing’s fine, he’s torn. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/126 "2016-06-07T01:43:12Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I think he’s torn. > > He’s all out of faith. This is how he feels. He’s cold and he’s ashamed, lying naked on the floor. > > Nothing’s fine, he’s torn. > > 😉 Not only is he torn, but now he’s got an angel and a demon living inside him too. Well, half-angel, half-demon. The perfect superhero. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/127 "2016-06-07T14:40:41Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > I’m digging this so far and I’m sure most of my questions will be answered eventually but I have one big question after last night’s episode: > > When the two “government” guys came to find Jesse unconscious and did their ritual, I’m pretty sure it was to rid him of this “spirit” that also possessed the other holy men in Russia and Africa, right? OK, but it didn’t work - was that because Jesse was under the influence of that drink he took from Cassidy’s flask? I think that whatever reason that Jesse was able to take the spirit and not explode is the same reason that the guys couldn’t get the spirit out of him. Could be the crisis of faith, could be Jesse is just more suitable for some reason. But that was an awesome fight scene between Cassidy and the agents. And I loved the cut off arm holding onto the chainsaw and heading towards Jesse, and Cassidy slipping around in the blood and then grabbing it. I hope that something more happens soon with Tulip’s story, since it’s a bit repetitive with her bugging Jesse about how he needs to get in on the job and how he really is a bad man, although the “kidnapping” scene was fun. But I do like the Tulip character and how she’s written and played. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/128 "2016-06-07T14:55:37Z")
Was bored and watched the 2d ep last night (after cancelling my series recording). I would appreciate the weird, if it weren’t just so ugly. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/129 "2016-06-07T15:03:32Z")
That was pretty comical how Jesse told Cassidy he didn’t want any _more_ trouble and Cassidy is all, “okay.” Then Jesse is passed out while Cassidy has a huge fight with supernatural chainsaw wielding bad guys, spatters the whole church with blood and has to clean the whole mess up before Jesse wakes up. Yup, everything’s fine! No trouble! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/130 "2016-06-07T15:53:19Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > That was pretty comical how Jesse told Cassidy he didn’t want any _more_ trouble and Cassidy is all, “okay.” Then Jesse is passed out while Cassidy has a huge fight with supernatural chainsaw wielding bad guys, spatters the whole church with blood and has to clean the whole mess up before Jesse wakes up. > > Yup, everything’s fine! No trouble! I would have enjoyed the fight scene a lot more if it were better lit. It might just be my TV screen, though… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/131 "2016-06-07T15:55:15Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > I would have enjoyed the fight scene a lot more if it were better lit. It might just be my TV screen, though… No. I was going to say the same thing. Couldn’t see a damn thing that was going on. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/132 "2016-06-07T16:34:18Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I found it oddly refreshing that the ritual didn’t include Latin chanting. I thought that was really cool. Who says a spell or incantation has to be some Latin shit? Why couldn’t it be a song? There is a lot of power in song, of all kinds. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/133 "2016-06-07T18:23:46Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I thought that was really cool. Who says a spell or incantation has to be some Latin shit? Why couldn’t it be a song? There is a lot of power in song, of all kinds. I am wondering if they are going to go anywhere with that. As I posted above, the lullaby/poem was published in 1889 and that cowboy flashback at the beginning was 1881. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/134 "2016-06-07T19:03:50Z")
“You made him make a bunny noise!” This ep really sold me on the casting of Cassidy. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/135 "2016-06-07T19:32:15Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I thought that was really cool. Who says a spell or incantation has to be some Latin shit? Why couldn’t it be a song? There is a lot of power in song, of all kinds. but how in the holy hell did they come up with this one? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/136 "2016-06-07T23:12:39Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > I would have enjoyed the fight scene a lot more if it were better lit. It might just be my TV screen, though… I haven’t been able to see anything on TV since the premiere of the X Files. > [@simster](#): > > but how in the holy hell did they come up with this one? I guess your mom didn’t recite Wynken, Blynken, and Nod to you. You had to be there. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/137 "2016-06-08T13:53:04Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > … and that cowboy flashback at the beginning was 1881. What was that flashback all about? Did I miss one of the characters in it? Was the silent wandering cowboy\*\* someone we know? If so, I didn’t recognize him. \*\*(reminded me of various Clint Eastwood characters from his spaghetti western days) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/138 "2016-06-08T13:58:43Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > What was that flashback all about? Did I miss one of the characters in it? Was the silent wandering cowboy\*\* someone we know? If so, I didn’t recognize him. > > \*\*(reminded me of various Clint Eastwood characters from his spaghetti western days) He’s a character in the comics who hasn’t otherwise been mentioned in the show. Presumably more will be explained soon and he’ll intersect with the other characters we’ve seen, but you haven’t missed anything, it was just setting up his character and the mood. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/139 "2016-06-08T14:17:10Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > He’s a character in the comics who hasn’t otherwise been mentioned in the show. Presumably more will be explained soon and he’ll intersect with the other characters we’ve seen, but you haven’t missed anything, it was just setting up his character and the mood. Ah. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371/140 "2016-06-08T15:33:04Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > What was that flashback all about? Did I miss one of the characters in it? Was the silent wandering cowboy\*\* someone we know? If so, I didn’t recognize him. > > \*\*(reminded me of various Clint Eastwood characters from his spaghetti western days) I don’t know but I suspect, because the proximity of time with the lullaby’s creation, we might get some background on the birth of Genesis as that flashback continues. Also, I am pretty sure that the tree with all the hanging scalped people from the flashback was the same tree Cassidy was burying the body parts box under. Eta: I haven’t read the comics, so I’m totally guessing based on what I’ve seen on the show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/preacher-the-new-show-old-comic-now-airing-on-amc/755371.md?page=8)