# Predator (1987): a masterpiece of testosterone

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 9, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253 "2009-10-09T23:19:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![2ply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b2d939/32.png) [@2ply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ply)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/41 "2009-10-10T20:00:53Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> [The Making of Predator](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drm4BxZDnuY&feature=related)
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> Full of macho goodness, as the actors are interviewed on and off set. A testosterone treat.
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> It’s rumored that the sweat from their daily workouts in the gym formed a lake which the locals now use for swimming and yachting.

I heard that is the long fabled fountain of youth.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/42 "2009-10-10T20:02:49Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Sounds to me (at the risk of a whoosh) that the film described has nothing to do with the Predator (Alien) universe, but is about a group of “cereal killers” (c.f. Sandman’s _A Game of You_).

The killers are all kidnapped and taken to the Predator homeworld. There they are hunted by a group of Predators in some kind of Thunderdome situation.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/43 "2009-10-10T20:03:27Z")

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The stick around line is pretty good, but any badass can throw a knife. It takes a real badass, John Matrix (Schwarzenneger) in _Commando_ to throw a frickin PIPE into a guy’s chest. It then embeds in the pipes behind him and shoots out a cloud of hot steam.

Arnold’s quip: “Let off some steam.”

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/44 "2009-10-10T20:16:41Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> _Predator 2_ wasn’t that bad a movie - you had the new predator inspiring a similar semi-religious awe in the Jamaican boss as the first did in Billy. It could have done without Maria Conchita Alonso and the “Get your people out of there!” ripoff from _Aliens_, but it wasn’t nearly as fucked up overall as _AvP_.
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> Plus Bill Paxton got killed, completing his Terminator/Alien/Predator trifecta, approached only by Lance Henrickson.

Not to mention you have Gary Busy in all his crazy glory and nd Danny Glover had some pretty good one liners too:  
“Your move pussy-face”.

“Ok…whose next?”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/45 "2009-10-10T20:37:44Z")

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“Lions, tigers, bears… oh, my.”

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/46 "2009-10-10T20:39:58Z")

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You’re all a bunch of “slack jawed faggots!”

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**Author:** ![blainer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@blainer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blainer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/47 "2009-10-10T22:07:26Z")

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This is a great film, but people really don’t appreciate how important it is for folks named Blaine. To a tee, movie and tv characters named Blaine (or Blane or Blain) are either giant pussies (e.g.-Pretty In Pink) or homosexuals (e.g.-Cruel Intentions). With his take on Blain, Jesse the Body gave us a masculine hero to look up to made it ok for real life Blaine, Blane and Blains to be be tough, as is our birthright.

Prior to Predator, I couldn’t even talk to a woman but now I’m a sexual Tryranosauras. Just like Jesse.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/48 "2009-10-10T22:19:27Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Indeed, [this scene](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLKjcOehW_I) is the most perfect depiction of anger I’ve ever seen onscreen.

Heh, I liked the YouTube comment:  
\*  
“Kills 0  
Accuracy 0,0%  
Deaths 0  
Awesomeness﻿ bonus 100/100!” \*

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/49 "2009-10-10T22:24:46Z")

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> [@blainer](#):
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> I’m a sexual Tryranosauras. Just like Jesse.

[The Perfect Master explains it all](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2357/how-did-dinosaurs-have-sex)

> [@](#):
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> The dramatic head-on view depicts a pair of Tyrannosaurus-like critters in a posture that will remind some of a quarterback taking the snap. The male’s expression of bug-eyed ecstasy indicates he has just delivered the goods, while the female’s slightly nettled look suggests he was a couple minutes early, the pig. Nonetheless, the pterodactyls flying in formation overhead, the steamy geothermal glow, and the overall impression of tectonic forces in collision suggest that when dinosaurs had sex, the earth moved no matter what.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/50 "2009-10-10T22:26:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> “Kills 0  
> Accuracy 0,0%  
> Deaths 0  
> Awesomeness﻿ bonus 100/100!”

Is this when The Predator is wounded?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/51 "2009-10-10T22:34:00Z")

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> [@Icerigger](#):
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> Is this when The Predator is wounded?

I was wondering what the comma was doing there in the accuracy..

🙂

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/52 "2009-10-10T22:41:27Z")

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One of the undeniable highlights of parenting was being able to introduce my young son to this film. He will never be the same (we can hope!)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/53 "2009-10-11T01:50:59Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> I was wondering what the comma was doing there in the accuracy..
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> 🙂

If this isn’t a whoosh, think of is as a European period. If it is a whoosh, and it should be, ignore this post.

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**Author:** ![2ply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b2d939/32.png) [@2ply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ply)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/54 "2009-10-11T02:52:13Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> One of the undeniable highlights of parenting was being able to introduce my young son to this film. He will never be the same (we can hope!)

My uncle showed Predator to his six year old. The next morning the little sprout had grown large, ripped muscles, a deep booming voice, and thick, rich chest hair. And the child is a girl!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/55 "2009-10-11T03:18:47Z")

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If I ever somehow found myself in a situation where I had to defend myself with a knife or a crossbow or something, and I used it to pin a guy to a wall, I have no doubt that no matter how scared or traumatized I would be at that moment, that I would be compelled to say “Stick around.”

I just couldn’t not do it.

Similarly I should start carrying a machete with me at all times, so that I can die like Billy. I don’t want to die in some pussy way like getting in a car accident or having a heart attack. I want to rip off my shirt, cut across my chest, and throw down a challenge.

… or possibly firing a minigun. I wonder if they have any of those .223 minigun prototypes left.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/56 "2009-10-11T04:05:06Z")

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The true way to throw down a challenge is to strip off your shirt, cover yourself with mud, spend a few hours rigging a bunch of booby traps, light a big torch and yell “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/57 "2009-10-11T04:26:26Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Heh, I liked the YouTube comment:  
> \*  
> “Kills 0  
> Accuracy 0,0%  
> Deaths 0  
> Awesomeness﻿ bonus 100/100!” \*

Let’s assume the wound the predator got was from one bullet. The M134 minigun used in the film fires 3000 rounds per minute, that’s 50 bullets per second. In the youtube clip posted upthread, the minigun starts firing at 0:03 and stops at 0:46. That’s 43 seconds of firing.

50 \* 43 = 2150 rounds.

Arnold starts shooting his M-16 at 0:10 and stops at 0:46. A M-16 shoots about 800 rounds per minute. With 30 rounds per clip, Arnold goes through one clip every 2 seconds. Add 2 seconds to change clip (it takes him 2 seconds to change clips in vid). Arnold fires 30 rounds every 4 seconds.

36 / 4 = 9 clips = 270 rounds.

The rest start firing at 0:23 and stop at 0:46

23 / 4 = about 6 clips = 180 rounds \* 3 (guys)= 540.

One has a grenade launcher, can’t say how many grenades he fired. Let’s say a dozen.

2150 + 270 + 540 + 12 = 2972  
1 / 2972 ≈ 0.0337% Accuracy.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/58 "2009-10-11T04:30:54Z")

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Actually, he hits the predator with his M60 a few seconds before the youtube clip shows. Presumably no one hit anything actually in that clip.

Also, I think it’s an XM-214 minigun rather than an M134.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/59 "2009-10-11T05:18:22Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> [The Perfect Master explains it all](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2357/how-did-dinosaurs-have-sex)

Tears. On cheeks. Heading southward. In mirth.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-1987-a-masterpiece-of-testosterone/513253/60 "2009-10-11T05:41:52Z")

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I’m right with you. This movie is perfect, and it’s one of the movies that I’ll watch any time anywhere and from any point.

It’s eminently quotable. The next time it’s on, I must make my girlfriend watch it.  
Also, Predators sounds almost like The Running Man.

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