# Predator (the movie) question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 13, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283 "2005-03-13T03:06:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jeffro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jeffro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeffro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/1 "2005-03-13T03:06:35Z")
So I’m watchin Predator tonight and the monster finaly takes off his mask, Argggggggh!! As always the monsters face reminds me of a crawdads face. Not sure why. Whats it remind you of? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/2 "2005-03-13T03:21:33Z")
Ayn Rand. ---
**Author:** ![Jeffro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jeffro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeffro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/3 "2005-03-13T03:22:07Z")
Mods could you move this to IMHO? Yeash! ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/4 "2005-03-13T03:32:45Z")
**Moderator’s Note:** Moving from GD to IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/5 "2005-03-13T04:11:00Z")
I always thought it had a spider-like quality. ---
**Author:** ![Jeffro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jeffro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeffro)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/6 "2005-03-13T05:16:32Z")
I did a Google search on Ayn Rand and you’re right she does kinda look like the predator. [http://www.isil.org/resources/fnn/2003summer/year-of-ayn-rand.html](http://www.isil.org/resources/fnn/2003summer/year-of-ayn-rand.html) sorry, no html skillz ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/7 "2005-03-13T06:01:11Z")
Yeah, he has a point, arachnids are warmer. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/8 "2005-03-13T08:17:01Z")
It’s a symbolic vagina. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/9 "2005-03-13T19:34:08Z")
While arachnids also have those mouth fingers (IIRC pedipalp is the technical term) the overall shape and structure of the rest of the face, plus the coloration and texture of the skin always seemed crustacean to me. ---
**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/10 "2005-03-14T03:02:45Z")
It definitely seemed crustacean-like to me. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/11 "2005-03-14T03:12:04Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > It’s a symbolic vagina. It’s a cigar. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/12 "2005-03-14T03:15:02Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > It’s a symbolic vagina. Kinda makes that “If it bleeds we can kill it!” line more interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/13 "2005-03-14T09:16:57Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Kinda makes that “If it bleeds we can kill it!” line more interesting… Well, there _are_ all those half-naked musclemen waving enormous phallic guns about, who don’t show the slightest interest in the woman they rescue: face it {pun intended} it’s the _vagina dentata_ all over again - Arnie must symbolically vanquish the castrating female. “Ain’t got time to bleed”, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/14 "2005-03-14T12:50:36Z")
**Silentgoldfish** , Sometimes a horrifying alien killer is just a horrifying alien killer… ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/15 "2005-03-14T14:49:26Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > Well, there _are_ all those half-naked musclemen waving enormous phallic guns about, who don’t show the slightest interest in the woman they rescue: face it {pun intended} it’s the _vagina dentata_ all over again - Arnie must symbolically vanquish the castrating female. “Ain’t got time to bleed”, indeed. Yet you overlook that Arnold discards said “enormous phallic guns” in order to defeat the Predator. The Predator, far from being a symbolic vagina, is in fact itself a symbol of rampant male sexuality. Everything from its hyperpowerful shoulder cannon to its enormous muscular physique to its mask cum helmet bespeaks its phallocentric nature. _Arnold_ is the devouring vagina that symbolically castrates the Predator. The mask/helmet removal scene is only there to emphasize that aspect of the subtext. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/16 "2005-03-14T16:47:45Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Yet you overlook that Arnold discards said “enormous phallic guns” in order to defeat the Predator. The Predator, far from being a symbolic vagina, is in fact itself a symbol of rampant male sexuality. Everything from its hyperpowerful shoulder cannon to its enormous muscular physique to its mask cum helmet bespeaks its phallocentric nature. _Arnold_ is the devouring vagina that symbolically castrates the Predator. The mask/helmet removal scene is only there to emphasize that aspect of the subtext. In other words, it’s a sexual predator. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/17 "2005-03-14T18:34:34Z")
I’m not really sure on the philosophical rammifications of the movie but all I have to say is “GET TO DA CHOPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAA!” ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/18 "2005-03-14T22:34:57Z")
I just think it’s funny that Jesse and Arnold were both in that movie. I wonder if they talked politics on the set. “Stick around!” ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/19 "2005-03-15T00:07:11Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Yet you overlook that Arnold discards said “enormous phallic guns” in order to defeat the Predator. The Predator, far from being a symbolic vagina, is in fact itself a symbol of rampant male sexuality. Everything from its hyperpowerful shoulder cannon to its enormous muscular physique to its mask cum helmet bespeaks its phallocentric nature. _Arnold_ is the devouring vagina that symbolically castrates the Predator. The mask/helmet removal scene is only there to emphasize that aspect of the subtext. Are you _following_ me? ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283/20 "2005-03-15T00:24:21Z")
I’m the cigar-chomping hero, the alien is symbolic vagina, and the rebels are the tyranny of evil men. Or maybe I’m the crustacean-faced alien, and you’re the symbolic vagina, and the phallic gun the tyranny of evil men. But we both know that shit ain’t right, Ringo. The truth is, the cigar-chomping hero with the phallic gun is the good guy, the vagina-faced crustacean alien is the bad guy, and the CIA mole is the tyranny of evil men. But I’m trying real hard to be the shepherd, Ringo. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predator-the-movie-question/294283.md?page=2)