# Predict: Likelihood Palin will show for the debate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866 "2008-09-30T16:17:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/161 "2008-10-02T19:49:06Z")

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> [@Auntbeast](#):
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> My vote is he calls her “cupcake.”

That’s “Governor Cupcake” if you please.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/162 "2008-10-02T21:49:37Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No, you are wrong…No, he didn’t…  
> Those claims are not the same thing as you originally said. And neither of them support your earlier assertions…Nice try…Thank you; come again.

You have a limiting fixation on so-called “facts”, which means you can’t grasp the more creative ideas of posters like **Shodan**.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/163 "2008-10-02T22:13:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You have a limiting fixation on so-called “facts”, which means you can’t grasp the more creative ideas of posters like **Shodan**.

True, but you have to admit the “Yes he did” “No he didn’t” argument is refreshing in its simplicity.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/164 "2008-10-02T22:41:28Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> True, but you have to admit the “Yes he did” “No he didn’t” argument is refreshing in its simplicity.

Sometimes you just have to keep things at their level. 😃

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/165 "2008-10-02T22:51:35Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No, you are wrong.
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> No, he didn’t.
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> Those claims are not the same thing as you originally said. And neither of them support your earlier assertions.
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> Nice try.
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> Thank you; come again.

See, this is why there’s no point debating **“Regards, Shodan”** – he’s a fundamentally dishonest person. He will twist and spin things just to fit his distorted HannityRushCoulter worldview, in some cases flat out lying. If he were at least a little clever he would be able to mask it somewhat, but since he’s not it’s just laughable.

Don’t waste your time, mate.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/166 "2008-10-03T09:06:35Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Obama also claimed
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> > “Both as a consequence of living in Indonesia and traveling in Pakistan, having friends in college who were Muslim, I was very clear about the history of Shia-Sunni antagonism”

I am confused. How does a quote in which he says he lived in Indonesia and traveled in Pakistan supported your assertion that “Obama says he has foreign policy experience because he lived in Kenya and Hawaii when he was a kid”? Is Indonesia a town in Hawaii or something?

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/167 "2008-10-03T13:52:47Z")

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Y’know, **Shodan** , after reading all of your posts in this thread, I have to ask you:  
Is your mother’s name Eliza?  
Because I am seeing a family resemblance here.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-likelihood-palin-will-show-for-the-debate/465866/168 "2008-10-03T13:54:31Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> My spread:
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> **50%: She is able to parrot her talking points with only a few head-scratchers. Biden will win on the merits, but Palin’s performance will be sufficiently competent to make McCain’s supporters and a few GOP-leaning swing voters say, “Good enough.”**
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> 20%: She just looks awful, and no amount of spin can save her. The best the pundits can do over the next few days is hope that it didn’t hurt McCain’s chances too badly and speculate about how she could get off the ticket.
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> 15%: She looks awful, but in the middle of an otherwise eloquent answer Biden says something stupid. The spin is that both candidates did poorly.
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> 10%: Palin is reasonably competent, but she wins, either because she got off a few memorable zingers or because Biden looked bad.
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> 4%: Family emergency forces her to fly home to Alaska, and the busy campaign season means it’s unlikely they’ll be able to reschedule the debate.
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> 1%: Wildcard

I think we can pay this one. Always kind of a letdown when the favorite comes in.

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