# Predict the wingnuttery to come **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903 "2008-11-03T19:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/1 "2008-11-03T19:07:51Z")
(Too weak for a Pit rant…but no real Debate. I throw myself on the mercy of the mods.) Presuming (knock wood, turn around 3 times and spit) that we’re heading into 4 years of Democratic hegemony, the right wing will have to go into Loyal Opposition mode. I’m not concerned about actual Republican leadership; they’ll be fine. I’m thinking about Talk Radio, and conservative blogs, and anonymous e-mail campaigns…the kind of people who, during the Clinton administration, gave us the “Who murdered Vincent Foster?” crap. Having Obama as president could raise this to a whole 'nother level. What can we expect to hear? I’ll throw out a few for starters: Changing the national motto to “In Allah We Trust” The “War on Christmas” meme goes wild. Funneling government funds to ACORN A flood of illegal aliens from Africa, all Obama’s relatives ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/2 "2008-11-03T19:09:58Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > ( > Changing the national motto to “In Allah We Trust” I bet you hear this one – in conjunction with ‘they’re going to ban religion’. ---
**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/3 "2008-11-03T19:26:05Z")
> [@UnwrittenNocturne](#): > > I bet you hear this one – in conjunction with ‘they’re going to ban religion’. …and guns - don’t forget the gun ban. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/4 "2008-11-03T19:34:14Z")
> [@ASAKMOTSD](#): > > …and guns - don’t forget the gun ban. How is that nuttery? I’ll bet you here and now $1,000 in cash that the Democrats will, sometime in the next 4 years, try to pass some sort of comprehensive gun legislation effecting an entire classification of weapons. That’s not nuttery, that’s a certainty. In fact, it is so much a certainty that two of the last three Democratic Presidents passed comprehensive gun bans (Johnson and Clinton, only Carter failed to). In that time not a single Republican has done so, unless you count the Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986, which strictly speaking wasn’t a ban at all. Care to take me up on my bet? ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/5 "2008-11-03T19:44:40Z")
What about the Brady Bill? (honestly, I’m not sure what it does, but I know it passed under Reagan) No, I won’t take that bet. But “they’re coming to take your guns” is wingnuttery. “They’re coming to take your assault rifles and restrict gun show sales”…that’s just a policy discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/6 "2008-11-03T19:46:37Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > What about the Brady Bill? (honestly, I’m not sure what it does, but I know it passed under Reagan) [Nope.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_bill) ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/7 "2008-11-03T19:48:10Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > How is that nuttery? > > I’ll bet you here and now $1,000 in cash that the Democrats will, sometime in the next 4 years, try to pass some sort of comprehensive gun legislation effecting an entire classification of weapons. I’m pretty sure a gun ban in this context means…a ban on all guns. Hence it being nutty. I think we’ve heard most of the more nutty attacks on Obama already. He’s a communist/muslim/terrorist/black-militant who hates plumbers. People in right-wing blogs seem pretty married to these ideas, so I think they’ll continue to hit on them for at least the first year or two. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/8 "2008-11-03T19:52:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > What about the Brady Bill? (honestly, I’m not sure what it does, but I know it passed under Reagan) > > No, I won’t take that bet. But “they’re coming to take your guns” is wingnuttery. “They’re coming to take your assault rifles and restrict gun show sales”…that’s just a policy discussion. Back in the 90s we were told that there wouldn’t be any big push for same-sex marriage, and now we’re being told anyone who opposes same-sex marriage is some kind of homophobic monster. Ted Kennedy promised us that the 1965 immigration reform bill wouldn’t change America’s racial and ethnic demographics. Perhaps you’ll understand why I’m a mite skeptical of the promise that the left isn’t going for a complete ban on all private gun ownership. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/9 "2008-11-03T19:53:13Z")
Right out of the gate I expect some wingnuttery about how the election was stolen by “voter fraud.” :rolleyes: Strictly blogosphere material, though. **Limbaugh** wouldn’t touch it. ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/10 "2008-11-03T19:54:13Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > He’s a communist/muslim/terrorist/black-militant who hates plumbers. Yeah but I’m sure he’ll change his mind when they decide to stop that arse-crack nonsense ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/11 "2008-11-03T19:57:31Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I’m pretty sure a gun ban in this context means…a ban on all guns. Hence it being nutty. > > I think we’ve heard most of the more nutty attacks on Obama already. He’s a communist/muslim/terrorist/black-militant who hates plumbers. People in right-wing blogs seem pretty married to these ideas, so I think they’ll continue to hit on them for at least the first year or two. Oh, don’t worry. When they bring back the Fairness Doctrine and institute hate speech laws like Europe and Canada, you won’t have to worry about anyone saying anything in public that you don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/12 "2008-11-03T19:57:32Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > …Care to take me up on my bet? Oh, hell! Just keep the God-damned things, and much good may it do you! _Muzzle tov!_ ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/13 "2008-11-03T19:58:09Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Presuming (knock wood, turn around 3 times and spit) that we’re heading into 4 years of Democratic hegemony, the right wing will have to go into Loyal Opposition mode. I’m not concerned about actual Republican leadership; they’ll be fine. I’m thinking about Talk Radio, and conservative blogs, and anonymous e-mail campaigns…the kind of people who, during the Clinton administration, gave us the “Who murdered Vincent Foster?” crap. Throughout a lot of Bush’s presidency we heard ‘why don’t you support the president in wartime’ and all sorts of other ‘if you don’t agree with the president 100% of the time you’re against us’ type bullshit. Anyone wanna bet money that Obama will not be receiving the unquestioning support of the right wing during wartime? ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/14 "2008-11-03T19:59:09Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Oh, hell! Just keep the God-damned things, and much good may it do you! _Muzzle tov!_ Nice pun, and I’ll probably steal it from you, but you are aware that firearm sales have been spiking recently, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/15 "2008-11-03T20:01:54Z")
> [@hotflungwok](#): > > Throughout a lot of Bush’s presidency we heard ‘why don’t you support the president in wartime’ and all sorts of other ‘if you don’t agree with the president 100% of the time you’re against us’ type bullshit. Anyone wanna bet money that Obama will not be receiving the unquestioning support of the right wing during wartime? And does anyone doubt Obama and his supporters will be accusing everyone who questions or opposes him of racism? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/16 "2008-11-03T20:02:45Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Nice pun, and I’ll probably steal it from you, but you are aware that firearm sales have been spiking recently, aren’t you? I wasn’t. Do you have any theory as to why? Because if it’s based on fear of Obama-Admin gun confiscation, we suddenly have a much larger number of the armed and stupid. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/17 "2008-11-03T20:02:48Z")
“America Held Hostage: Day 1” ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/18 "2008-11-03T20:03:37Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Oh, don’t worry. When they bring back the Fairness Doctrine and institute hate speech laws like Europe and Canada, you won’t have to worry about anyone saying anything in public that you don’t like. I also predict we’ll see a lot of insinuations that Obama will bring back the Fairness doctrine and use hate speech laws to trample over free speech. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/19 "2008-11-03T20:04:24Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I wasn’t. > > Do you have any theory as to why? > > Because if it’s based on fear of Obama-Admin gun confiscation, we suddenly have a much larger number of the armed and stupid. ☹ The radio report (NPR) said it was due to fears that Obama would outlaw assault rifles and other types of firearms. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/20 "2008-11-03T20:05:11Z")
Some possibilities that occur to me: “We had [terrorist guy/group] in our sights, but Obama refused to give the order to finish him/them off.” “Obama ordered [terrorist suspect] released from secret detention and flown to a terrorist state.” “This one high school somewhere is offering a comparative religion class, in which students will read excerpts from several religious texts, including the Koran. Obama is persecuting Christians.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903.md?page=2)