# Predict the wingnuttery to come **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903 "2008-11-03T19:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/41 "2008-11-03T20:31:22Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Back in the 90s we were told that there wouldn’t be any big push for same-sex marriage . . . Told by whom? > [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Ted Kennedy promised us that the 1965 immigration reform bill wouldn’t change America’s racial and ethnic demographics. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/42 "2008-11-03T20:33:54Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > So? Probably both sides are going to scream “No fair!” if the other side wins. I don’t see your point. The difference is that there’s plenty of credible evidence of Pub voter suppression and none of Dem voter fraud, especially not in connection with this [ACORN](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=486871) flap; but I was responding to **Sinaijon’s** snarkpost. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/43 "2008-11-03T20:35:46Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Have you been living in a cave on Mars for the past two years or something? No, but I am rational and I do see and hear things that are actually there instead of just thinking people do what I think they should do, so that might be why I haven’t heard Obama calling everyone who disagrees with him a racist. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/44 "2008-11-03T20:39:25Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Ted Kennedy promised us that the 1965 immigration reform bill wouldn’t change America’s racial and ethnic demographics. BTW, **Lonesome,** I was surprised you never participated in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=489382) recent thread (based on posts of yours). ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/45 "2008-11-03T20:41:56Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > [They’re certainly doing it in Canada.](http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/o_stalinoid_canada_1.html) I don’t find it hard to believe that the left would love to have the same power to suppress speech here. No. Speaking for the left, we much prefer to let in all of the Brown People so that us white folks are bred out of existence. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/46 "2008-11-03T20:45:17Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > [They’re certainly doing it in Canada.](http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/o_stalinoid_canada_1.html) I don’t find it hard to believe that the left would love to have the same power to suppress speech here. [Mark Steyn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn) is “Canada’s greatest gift to the contemporary world of letters”?! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/47 "2008-11-03T20:50:14Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Oh, yeah, the left’s profound respect for the Constitution will protect free speech. :rolleyes: Oh, the irony! It buuuurns! ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/48 "2008-11-03T20:50:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > In the distance…(…crunch, crunch, crunch…) > Drawing ever nearer, moment by moment! (…crunch, crunch, crunch…) > The dread tread of liberal jackboots! (…crunch, crunch, crunch…) > > Its necessary, **LP!** How the hell are we going to force Eagle Scouts into gay marriages unless we take all the guns first? Is that the sound of a Civilian National Security Force that is just as powerful, just as strong and just as well funded as the military? ---
**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/49 "2008-11-03T20:50:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > See post #5. Ok, I did. I’ll spell it out a bit better this time. Should those who by your words are stupid and now armed simply disregard the anti-gun past of Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, Kennedy, Kerry, et al, as well as the 2008 Democrat Party Plank? Are the so-called stupid to now think that after owning both branches of government, the Democrats will not proceed with the existing bills to start banning guns? Or if only _some_ guns are banned, they should just be glad it’s not _all_ guns? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/50 "2008-11-03T20:55:22Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Ah, I get it. You’re allowed to mock, but when someone doesn’t play along you get to act like you’re exasperated, like it’s some sort of confirmation that you were right the whole time. > > Well, not at my expense. Have fun with your sausage fest. Like I would have expected honest conversation in a thread titled “Predict the wingnuttery to come” a day before the election. Silly me. Despite my best efforts, you insist that our relationship be defined by hostility. So be it. That is my honest opinion! We have wasted far too much effort on this, and it just ain’t practical. There are millions of the cursed things out there, and no law within human purview will make them go away. They’re metal, and they don’t rot. Hell, my Texas daddy had a 1911 Colt, and it could still kill a mugger. Or a stupid child, just as easily. Don’t much mind rifles, you want to take a case of beer and a .22 down to the _arroyo_, I’m your huckleberry. (Back when Pearl Beer was still around, we used to call it “knocking the P out of Pearl”…we were quite the sophisticates…) But I stone hate handguns, because I hate fear. Fear is the mortal enemy of joy, and I will not cooperate. I’ve been robbed at gunpoint three times, and my best guess is that all three of them are dead, in prison, or leading lives so miserable that no punishment I might inflict would matter. And I endure, and love is mine. And let me go further! I trust myself. I probably am responsible enough to own a handgun. But I’ve been drunk, I’ve been angry, and I’ve been unreasonably afraid. And under those conditions, I’m no smarter than my peckerwood relatives. (Plus, I hardly need one, being a master of Cringing Mantis Kung Fu!) You gonna stand there and tell me that you don’t know anybody who owns a gun that you’d rather not? That they are all sterling examples of reason and humanity, and can be trusted to possess lethal force? But there is nothing to be done, they are there, and they ain’t going away. So I consider anti-gun crusades futile and pointless. You’ll either catch on, or you won’t. We may not have bigger fish to fry, but at least we can stick to the one’s we can actually do something about. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/51 "2008-11-03T20:59:18Z")
> [@JXJohns](#): > > Ok, I did. > > I’ll spell it out a bit better this time. Should those who by your words are stupid and now armed simply disregard the anti-gun past of Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, Kennedy, Kerry, et al, as well as the 2008 Democrat Party Plank? Are the so-called stupid to now think that after owning both branches of government, the Democrats will not proceed with the existing bills to start banning guns? Or if only _some_ guns are banned, they should just be glad it’s not _all_ guns? I honestly don’t know. I think that the Democratic constituency is also changing, given the performance we are likely to see in heretofore red states. I think it would be a considerable political mistake to continue to restrict gun ownership lest we on the left see this newfound support erode. Many of the Democratic congressmen elected as anti-Republican candidates in these redder states are certainly not going to be anti-gun, so there is also little reason to believe a consistently anti-firearm regime would survive the legislature. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/52 "2008-11-03T21:00:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Mark Steyn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn) is “Canada’s greatest gift to the contemporary world of letters”?! You mean out of that entire article the only thing you could focus on was that? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/53 "2008-11-03T21:01:24Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Oh, yeah, the left’s profound respect for the Constitution will protect free speech. :rolleyes: You do get newspapers where you live, do you not? I’m stunned that you believe that the recent/current Republican administration has even a modicum of respect for the constitution. Habeas corpus? Illegal wiretapping? Secret prisons in foreign lands? Torture? Hello? Beuller? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/54 "2008-11-03T21:03:17Z")
That’s different! They’re protecting us from our enemies, who hate our freedoms! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/55 "2008-11-03T21:03:31Z")
> [@JXJohns](#): > > Ok, I did. > > I’ll spell it out a bit better this time. Should those who by your words are stupid and now armed simply disregard the anti-gun past of Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, Kennedy, Kerry, et al, as well as the 2008 Democrat Party Plank? Are the so-called stupid to now think that after owning both branches of government, the Democrats will not proceed with the existing bills to start banning guns? Or if only _some_ guns are banned, they should just be glad it’s not _all_ guns? The last one. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/56 "2008-11-03T21:04:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > That’s different! They’re protecting us from our enemies, who hate our freedoms! Our brown-skinned, foreign enemies who threaten to destroy our culture and outbreed us, at that! ---
**Author:** ![meanoldman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@meanoldman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meanoldman)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/57 "2008-11-03T21:04:31Z")
From the wingers I’ve heard…it seems the libruls will be -forcing- women to have abortions. \ Tastes of baby \ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/58 "2008-11-03T21:05:08Z")
[QUOTE=JJ] Our brown-skinned, foreign enemies who threaten to destroy our culture and outbreed us, at that! [/QUOTE] We have a culture? Loud, shiny crap is a culture? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/59 "2008-11-03T21:06:19Z")
> [@meanoldman](#): > > From the wingers I’ve heard…it seems the libruls will be -forcing- women to have abortions. > > \ Tastes of baby \ And gay marriages. All heterosexuals will be required to divorce their current spouse and marry someone of the same sex. Penetration (either penile or digital)will be required by both parties and checked for the day after. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903/60 "2008-11-03T21:07:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We have a culture? Loud, shiny crap is a culture? I dunno. Ask Shunned Weasel up there, it’s his philosophy… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-the-wingnuttery-to-come/470903.md?page=4)