# Predict:  Will Scotland vote to secede?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 17, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705 "2014-09-17T03:03:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/41 "2014-09-18T00:14:30Z")

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So when do the polls open, and when do they close? Both local time and “What’s that mean to me?” time (i.e. Eastern Daylight Time).

(I voted _No_.)

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/42 "2014-09-18T00:23:00Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> So when do the polls open, and when do they close? Both local time

07:00 - 22:00 local (I’m sure you can work out your own local time). Result? Possibly 7 or 8 hours after polls close.

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/43 "2014-09-18T00:31:12Z")

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Is local time GMT? That would make it from 3 am to 6 pm here. Do they use daylight savings time?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/44 "2014-09-18T00:31:51Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> 07:00 - 22:00 local (I’m sure you can work out your own local time). Result? Possibly 7 or 8 hours after polls close.

I believe they are 5 hours ahead of Eastern Time, folks. We in the Eastern US should know by bedtime tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/45 "2014-09-18T00:34:25Z")

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Oh, and I don’t know if this poll will close in time, so let’s not vote past the end of polling time in Scotland tomorrow, right? I’d like to have an actual prediction of what we thought at the time.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/46 "2014-09-18T00:36:42Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> 07:00 - 22:00 local (I’m sure you can work out your own local time). Result? Possibly 7 or 8 hours after polls close.

Which means the results in North America will be available by about midnight tomorrow, I believe.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/47 "2014-09-18T00:51:00Z")

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[Here is Gordon Brown speaking pretty clearly about the vote. I think he makes some seriously valid points.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39bBV7CBJk#t=10)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/48 "2014-09-18T01:18:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Here is Gordon Brown speaking pretty clearly about the vote. I think he makes some seriously valid points.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39bBV7CBJk#t=10)

My God, that was a phenomenal speech: almost Kennedyesque. Wonderful!

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/49 "2014-09-18T01:52:45Z")

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> [@Namkcalb](#):
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> I think the ‘Yes’ vote will win due to postal ballots

I’m curious as to why “yes” would win because of postal ballots. Why would that be the case?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/50 "2014-09-18T01:54:08Z")

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> [@Namkcalb](#):
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> I think the ‘Yes’ vote will win due to postal ballots

That would have to be an enormous number of ballots.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/51 "2014-09-18T02:21:22Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> My God, that was a phenomenal speech: almost Kennedyesque. Wonderful!

I know. I don’t remember Gordon Brown every giving such a great speech before.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/52 "2014-09-18T02:34:59Z")

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I voted “yes.” I don’t know very much about the entire issue, but a yes victory would make the news interesting for a few days.

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**Author:** ![BrassyPhrase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea666f/32.png) [@BrassyPhrase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrassyPhrase)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/53 "2014-09-18T02:55:56Z")

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I hope the vote is no, they won’t separate. But I picked ‘yes’ in the poll because people like to make change. I think many people in Scotland will feel very empowered by this decision and people will come out of the woodwork to vote that maybe didn’t before.

I’m very interested, but I have no dog in the fight, really.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/54 "2014-09-18T03:00:08Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I know. I don’t remember Gordon Brown every giving such a great speech before.

How does one share that on Facebook? I have an account but don’t do much with it.

ETA: Never Mind: Figured it out.

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**Author:** ![manila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@manila](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manila)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/55 "2014-09-18T03:04:13Z")

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I think yes.

And why not? Can’t see a downside for an individual. They will keep their UK passports for themselves and the next generation so they will have all the travel rights of member of the EU.

If it goes pear shaped they can amble off across the border.

It won’t however go pear shaped as the surrounding countries will be better off with a healthy Scottish neighbour so will bail them out as necessary.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/56 "2014-09-18T03:20:09Z")

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There’s going to be so many “No True Scotsman” wisecracks when the voting is over.  
\*“No True Scotsman would vote yes!”

“No True Scotsman would vote no!”\*

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/57 "2014-09-18T04:11:36Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> I would have guessed no just a couple of days ago but Scotland has captured the world’s attention and the vote has come to represent a larger geopolitical point around governance. I think the historicity of the occasion will give the yes people the slight bump they need to prevail in the polls.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/58 "2014-09-18T04:48:00Z")

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[Conversation](http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2014/09/17/scotland-s-first-minister) with Scotland’s First Minister, Alex Salmond on the subject.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/59 "2014-09-18T05:04:57Z")

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> [@Subterraneanus](#):
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> Huh?

I think he’s saying that voting “yes” is a chance to be part of something big so that might draw a few votes.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-will-scotland-vote-to-secede/698705/60 "2014-09-18T05:29:15Z")

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I wanna yes but reckon it’ll be no, 51% or 52%.

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