# Prediction: Romney landslide win **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 14, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655 "2012-09-14T02:26:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/121 "2012-09-14T18:29:11Z")
> [@PandaBear77](#): > > As much as I’d like to see you turn out to be right, **Klaatu** , I don’t see a landslide happening. I think we’ll have a repeat of 2000. > > I think Romney has a decent shot, so far, anyway. I _hope_ this country is bright enough to vote out Obama but I’m losing faith that it is. No. This country is bright enough to give him four more years. Bush had eight years to make the mess, and it’s going to take that long to clean it up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/122 "2012-09-14T18:31:50Z")
Shit. If we’re lucky, maybe only ten to twelve years. And that is assuming the cheerful and complete cooperation of the Republicans! ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/123 "2012-09-14T18:34:00Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Yes it would. I also find it laughable all of those states will go to Romney. I know you realize that but I would enjoy hearing **Klaatu’s** reasoning of how Romney could pull that off. He would also have to explain how [RealClearPolitics no toss ups map](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html) has Obama winning 332 to 206, meaning that they think that almost every toss up state will break for Obama. I’ve been saying this for a long time, but I keep hedging by adding “barring a meteor strike” - a metaphor for an event that wipes out all the previous polls and changes everything. There’s always a nonzero chance of that, although it’s never happened in any real presidential election. The Akin mess in Missouri is the closest thing we’ve seen in years. But a meteor strike wipes out all predictions. You don’t get to say, see, I told you Romney would win. Although if anyone is a time traveler with foreknowledge of the election, a poster named Klaatu would be the best bet. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/124 "2012-09-14T18:37:05Z")
They down ticket races are going to be far more interesting on election night than the Presidential race. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/125 "2012-09-14T18:49:19Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > They down ticket races are going to be far more interesting on election night than the Presidential race. I agree with this. A few nail-biters as well. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/126 "2012-09-14T19:19:57Z")
> [@BDBoop](#): > > No. This country is bright enough to give him four more years. Bush had eight years to make the mess, and it’s going to take that long to clean it up. Longer. The best economist estimates when the smoke cleared in 2008/2009 were at least 12 years for the real estate markets to recover, if then. Yeah, it was _that_ fucking bad. ---
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/127 "2012-09-14T19:21:59Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Longer. The best economist estimates when the smoke cleared in 2008/2009 were at least 12 years for the real estate markets to recover, if then. Yeah, it was _that_ fucking bad. Oh, I agree! But the Republicans, as Clinton pointed out, are saying “He couldn’t do it it in four years, give it back to us.” Also, in a fair nod to the other side, ALL the damage didn’t just take place between 2000-2008. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/128 "2012-09-14T20:22:01Z")
> [@BDBoop](#): > > Also, in a fair nod to the other side, ALL the damage didn’t just take place between 2000-2008. That’s true. Republican obstructionism in 2009 bears some of the blame. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/129 "2012-09-14T20:24:42Z")
> [@PandaBear77](#): > > As much as I’d like to see you turn out to be right, **Klaatu** , I don’t see a landslide happening. I think we’ll have a repeat of 2000. Election goes to the SCOTUS? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/130 "2012-09-14T20:25:11Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I’m really disappointed **Klaatu** and **moonshot925** can’t be bothered to share with us how they think the Electoral College vote will break down by state to reach the ridiculous numbers they both have suggested. > > I could really use the laugh. Be nice. They are Republicans, for them math is hard. It shows in their economic policy also. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/131 "2012-09-14T20:32:24Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Obama is up by 7 points in Ohio, 5 in Pennsylvania, 5 in Florida, 5 in Virginia. Virginia! Romney cannot afford to lose even half of those states and win the election. Frankly losing just Florida and Ohio and winning the election is almost unthinkable. > > Romney can still win, but the poll numbers are going in the wrong direction for him. And in any case, neither candidate will win in a landslide. For Romney to win he’d have to turn it around now or really do a great job in the debates. Given that he couldn’t really beat the horde of morons he was debating against in the primaries (they beat themselves mostly) the debate path is not too likely. For the other, the convention is a good indicator of how their campaign is going. They take some of the most valuable time they have and give it to a guy talking to a chair. Now Romney takes one of the first weeks of the real campaign and wastes it on yet another foreign policy gaffe. QE3 isn’t going to help him either. Maybe the Fed knows they won’t have to deal with Romney in the White House? ---
**Author:** ![BDBoop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@BDBoop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BDBoop)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/132 "2012-09-14T20:44:03Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > That’s true. Republican obstructionism in 2009 bears some of the blame. Yeah. 😉 I meant pre-2000. Some of what we have in place was decades in the making. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/133 "2012-09-14T20:50:42Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > For Romney to win he’d have to turn it around now or really do a great job in the debates. I was actually just reading a piece that says the debates don’t shift the polls very much anyway, historically. If the race is really tight they might matter, but they generally don’t produce big swings. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/134 "2012-09-14T20:55:04Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Things are looking worse and worse for Obama. The chickens are coming home to roost. I don’t see a landslide for Romney but I do predict that Obama will be soundly beaten. The Democrats on this board and in the country have been in denial about the situation for a long time. They cannot even conceive that their hero could lose. Are you kidding me? Before the Republican primary, we had all but lost hope of Obama’s reelection. I didn’t really get optomistic and enthusiastic about his chances until the DNC. > [@Voyager](#): > > For Romney to win he’d have to turn it around now or really do a great job in the debates. Given that he couldn’t really beat the horde of morons he was debating against in the primaries (they beat themselves mostly) the debate path is not too likely. For the other, the convention is a good indicator of how their campaign is going. They take some of the most valuable time they have and give it to a guy talking to a chair. Now Romney takes one of the first weeks of the real campaign and wastes it on yet another foreign policy gaffe. > QE3 isn’t going to help him either. Maybe the Fed knows they won’t have to deal with Romney in the White House? The fed doesn’t (or at least shouldn’t) do politics. I think we are in danger of underestimating Romney on the debates. Obama’s not the only one that heard of the rope-a-dope. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/135 "2012-09-14T20:56:16Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Are you kidding me? Before the Republican primary, we had all but lost hope of Obama’s reelection. Please speak for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/136 "2012-09-14T21:23:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Reagan-Mondale, four years later, was a much more emphatic landslide. Mondale won just 13 electoral votes (as Dennis Miller cracked, “I didn’t even run, and I almost tied him”) and beat Mondale by 18% in the popular vote, about twice his margin over Carter. In EVs it was the most ever won, and was the greatest popular vote landslide since the 1972 massacre. Vaguely along those lines, I have an amusing anecdote. My parents have friends, Mr and Mrs X, who they have often spent Presidential election nights with and the reason, as Mr X describes it that he likes to spend election night with my parents is that “[jshore’s father] was the only one who on the evening of the 1972 election still thought that McGovern might be able to pull it out.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/137 "2012-09-14T21:23:16Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Are you kidding me? Before the Republican primary, we had all but lost hope of Obama’s reelection. Nonsense. I for one have been saying since January 21, 2009 that Obama’s re-election was in the bag. I’ve never thought otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/138 "2012-09-14T21:24:48Z")
Aha, I think I figured out one possible source of all this Republican optimism: [this.](http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-possible-landslide-indicated-by-polling-data-released-today) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/139 "2012-09-14T21:32:36Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Aha, I think I figured out one possible source of all this Republican optimism: [this.](http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-possible-landslide-indicated-by-polling-data-released-today) That’s _adorable_. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655/140 "2012-09-14T21:33:26Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > For everyone who sees Obama as a failure and a demagogue, there’s at least one other voter who perceives Romney as an unprincipled foot-in-mouth empty suit. Pantleg-in-mouth, you mean. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-romney-landslide-win/634655.md?page=8)