# Prediction: The UHC shooter will develop a following of young women groupies (like Bundy and Tsarnaev) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 10, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425 "2024-12-10T00:19:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/21 "2024-12-10T08:45:41Z")
Well yeah, duh. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/22 "2024-12-10T12:48:23Z")
Well, I guess, if he’s the killer, he’ll have a long time alone to think about all the women he could have dated. But he threw all that away, for…? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/23 "2024-12-10T13:20:38Z")
Slightly off-topic: The 2007 Michael Moore film “Sicko” is about the lack of socialized medicine in the US (since then, only partly ameliorated by Obamacare). A memorable stunt is Moore’s attempted visit (by speedboat) to Guantanamo Bay with a sick person, to underline how at least the Gitmo prisoners were getting free health care. The current episode would make for an interesting post-script to that film. I wonder how Moore would have handled it. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/24 "2024-12-10T13:42:03Z")
I’d also suggest a nexus with Moore’s “**[Bowling for Columbine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_for_Columbine)**:” > The film explores what Moore suggests are the primary causes for the Columbine High School massacre and other acts of gun violence. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/25 "2024-12-10T14:23:02Z")
[Taylor Tomlinson’s take…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ln5INNxIso) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/26 "2024-12-10T16:52:59Z")
To close out the category, Ken, I’ll also take “[**Roger & Me**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_%26_Me).” > [@](#): > > Disguised as a TV journalist, Moore interviews some auto workers in Flint and discovers their strong disgust for GM chairman Roger B. Smith. Moore begins seeking out Smith himself to confront him about the closing of the Flint plants. He repeatedly tries to visit Smith at the GM headquarters in Detroit, yet he is blocked by building security. Over the course of the film, Moore attempts to track down Smith at the Grosse Pointe Yacht Club and the Detroit Athletic Club, only to be told either that Smith is not there or to leave by employees and security guards. > > From there, Moore begins to explore the emotional impact of the plant closings on his friends. He interviews Ben Hamper, an auto worker who suffered a nervous breakdown on the assembly line and is residing at a mental health facility. Moore also talks to the residents of the affluent suburb of Grand Blanc, who display classist attitudes about Flint’s hardships. I suspect Moore would have some thoughts on this shooting. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/27 "2024-12-15T17:26:00Z")
“WILL?” Within hours after Luigi was identified there were Reddit posts where a woman writes that she is offering unlimited sex, any hole, any position, any time, no protection,yada yadda. It is much longer then I paraphrased. ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/28 "2024-12-15T17:38:58Z")
Someone who (allegedly) shot this particular CEO could look like Sloth from the Goonies and he’d still have legions of female admirers. Someone who looked like Luigi Mangione could have strangled 20 innocent victims and he’d still have legions of female admirers. Dude has the best of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/29 "2024-12-15T21:29:19Z")
i think we’ll settle for “had” … ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/30 "2024-12-16T00:28:47Z")
Depends on your / their / his taste for jail porn. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/31 "2024-12-16T16:16:38Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > In other breaking news, there will be a sunrise tomorrow. Thanks, Annie! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/32 "2024-12-16T19:55:57Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Too old; just shoot me. Are _you_ a CEO? No? Hardly worth the effort. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/33 "2024-12-17T05:25:40Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I suspect Moore would have some thoughts on this shooting. And Moore speaks: [A Manifesto Against For-Profit Health Insurance Companies — by Michael Moore](https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/a-manifesto-against-for-profit-health) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/34 "2024-12-17T13:34:28Z")
That did _not_ disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/35 "2024-12-17T15:57:11Z")
The woman who fixated on Kenneth Bianchi (one of the Hillside Stranglers) may hold the title of [worst prison groupie ever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Bianchi). > [@](#): > > In 1980, Bianchi began a relationship with Veronica Compton, a woman he had met while in prison. During his trial, she testified for the defense, telling the jury a false, vague tale about the crimes in an attempt to exculpate Bianchi. She also admitted to wanting to buy a [mortuary](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortuary) with another convicted murderer for the purpose of [necrophilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrophilia). She was later convicted and imprisoned for attempting to strangle a woman she had lured to a motel in an attempt to convince authorities that the Hillside Strangler was still on the loose. Bianchi had allegedly given her some [semen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen) during a prison visit to plant on the planned victim to make it look like a rape/murder committed by the Strangler. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/36 "2024-12-21T16:47:03Z")
[Here](https://nypost.com/2024/12/21/us-news/meet-the-besotted-groupies-sending-love-letters-commissary-money-to-accused-united-healthcare-ceo-assassin-luigi-mangione/) is a NYP article on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/37 "2024-12-24T00:38:44Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > Someone who looked like Luigi Mangione could have strangled 20 innocent victims and he’d still have legions of female admirers. He has plenty of male admirers too. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prediction-the-uhc-shooter-will-develop-a-following-of-young-women-groupies-like-bundy-and-tsarnaev/1011425/38 "2024-12-24T00:58:43Z")
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