# Pregnancy at age 11 called rare, risky; uncle charged **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543 "2003-07-19T04:12:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sylphishone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sylphishone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylphishone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/1 "2003-07-19T04:12:04Z")
Here is the link I think the “uncle” needs to be executed.:mad: ☹ :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/2 "2003-07-19T04:12:43Z")
…so where was that link again? ---
**Author:** ![sylphishone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sylphishone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylphishone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/3 "2003-07-19T04:17:14Z")
[http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0718pregnantgirl18-ON.html](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0718pregnantgirl18-ON.html) OOOPss! I guess I am getting tired. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/4 "2003-07-19T04:34:00Z")
😕 :dubious: :eek: :mad: Yeah. Okay, I could vote for execution… ---
**Author:** ![skyzoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e480ec/32.png) [@skyzoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skyzoo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/5 "2003-07-19T04:42:31Z")
“Tiredness wraps its’ arms around us, we reach out through it’s old sleeve…” How sad this is, **sylphishone**. Sad, sadder, saddist… _when will the outrage collectively scream?_ No wonder sorrow glues us and moves us to become angry at the horrible. Yes, **Wang-Ka!** ---
**Author:** ![sylphishone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sylphishone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylphishone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/6 "2003-07-19T04:49:20Z")
It happens more than we like to admit. Protect your children. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/7 "2003-07-19T04:49:30Z")
This is so sad, I cry for this 11 year old. I am not only sad because she is so young, but I am sad that she didn’t have someone to talk to when this all began with her uncle. He is a sick individual that needs help. ---
**Author:** ![sylphishone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sylphishone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylphishone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/8 "2003-07-19T04:50:49Z")
He doesn’t need help. Pedophiles don’t get better. I KNOW. He needs to die. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/9 "2003-07-19T05:56:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sylphishone \* > \*\*He doesn’t need help. Pedophiles don’t get better. I KNOW. He needs to die. \*\* Just wondering … is 16 or 17 year old boy having sex with a 10 or 11 year old girl technically considered a “pedophile” as he was apparently a minor himself when this occurred. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/10 "2003-07-19T07:05:14Z")
**astro** , I’m fairly sure that the term pedophile refers to anyone who has a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. If this little girl is pregnant, though, she’s not prepubescent, even if she is only 11. Jeez, and I thought it was horrible that a girl I went to school with, who got pregnant at 13, is now about to be a grandmother at the age of 27. This woman and her daughter weren’t being molested, though; they just have an appalling lack of judgement and parental control. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/11 "2003-07-19T07:42:41Z")
Another ‘story’ of sorts. When I was a kid, my mum would provide care and protection for girls who were in some sort of danger or distress. One of the girls who came to live with us had been the victim of one of her mother’s ‘boyfriends’. Apparently the mother had given the boyfriends/clients free sexual access to her daughter in order to assure her continued business. Nicky\* was just 12 years old when she gave birth to her first child. Her mother denied all knowledge (of course) and blamed Nicky for stealing her boyfriends!! Some things are just incredibly sad. \*Name changed. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/12 "2003-07-19T10:28:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \* > \*\*Jeez, and I thought it was horrible that a girl I went to school with, who got pregnant at 13, is now about to be a grandmother at the age of 27. This woman and her daughter weren’t being molested, though; they just have an appalling lack of judgement and parental control. \*\* Holy mother of God, a grandmother at 27! I’d have to say that _something_ was going on or not going on in her family of origin (not necessarily molestation) to make this possible. That is just sad and wrong. At this rate, she could be a great-grandmother by the time she’s 40! A great-great grandmother before she’s even eligible for a senior citizen’s discount! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/13 "2003-07-19T10:54:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by astro \* > Just wondering … is 16 or 17 year old boy having sex with a 10 or 11 year old girl technically considered a “pedophile” as he was apparently a minor himself when this occurred. Considering that the girl is, as **CrazyCatLady** said, not prepubescent, he is something the term for which I evidently mislearned. I thought it was ephebophile, but neither [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) nor [m-w.com](http://m-w.com) return anything for any sort of spelling of that. At any rate, it indicates love (and such) for pubescent/adolescent people regardless of gender. ---
**Author:** ![thatDDperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@thatDDperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thatDDperson)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/14 "2003-07-19T11:15:22Z")
What he NEEDS to be is strung up by the damned huevos and beaten with a tire iron. And he’s 18. Good. Adult prison. He’ll be the belle of the ball. Cast iron jockey shorts wouldn’t be any help. And when he’s been punked out by whoever gets to him first in prison, MAYBE, if he’s not too damaged to live, he’ll understand that unwanted sexual attention isn’t so damn much fun for the victim. No, it won’t help her, but it just MIGHT change his mind. “Short eyes” (sexual abusers of children) get no break in prison. They have a hard time. The murders consider them scum, expendable scum. Life’s tough when you choose to make it so. He chose. That poor little girl didn’t have a choice. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/15 "2003-07-19T12:02:02Z")
I think I will wait until this thread arrives in The Pit to attempt to express my opinion on this. I also am not surprised that people did not realize, before they commented, that this was NOT in The Pit. And lastly, compelling evidence (though that would be excruciatingly difficult to produce, IMO, and bordering on impossible) to the contrary, I find it difficult to think that even the most true of Christians will find any sort of ease in praying for the male person (I wholly reject the notion that he is anything of a man. It is difficult enough to stomach that he is human) charged with this. ---
**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/16 "2003-07-19T12:35:38Z")
What appalls me the most is that she is going to have to raise this child. The end of the article talks about how her family is going to help her balance being a child and a mother to the baby! My biggest fear as a child was that my father would get me pregnant and make me keep his demon spawn. I decided I would kill myself first. Let that poor kid put the baby up for adoption. Good Grief. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/17 "2003-07-19T12:46:31Z")
I know a woman who became a grandmother at 29, when her 14 year old daughter had a baby boy. I saw a Montel show where a 10 year gave birth to her mother’s roommate’s son’s child. He was 21 and in prison. He blamed the girl for “dressing like Brittany Spears and sitting in my lap.” Montel told him: Nobody can make you unzip your pants, and if it had been my daughter, I’d be the one in prison for killing you. You have to wonder sometimes what this world is coming to. ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/18 "2003-07-19T13:49:06Z")
Why do they always say “sexual abuse”? Isn’t it just rape? I don’t get it. To me it minimizes it. Not that sexual abuse is to me considered not as serious, but it just bugs me they never call it as it is. ---
**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/19 "2003-07-19T13:55:32Z")
Zazie I believe sexual abuse encompasses a larger variety of sexual crimes than rape. From the article this was not a one time forced sexual encounter. This was a year of such encounters and not all of them may have involved penetration (a necessity for rape but not molestation/abuse if I remember the definitions correctly) In my case I was sexually abused for years but only raped a few times. So to just consider the times when rape happened is to belittle the rest of the acts committed during that time frame. ---
**Author:** ![Zazie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Zazie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zazie)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543/20 "2003-07-19T14:00:05Z")
oh, I understand tanookie. Thank you! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pregnancy-at-age-11-called-rare-risky-uncle-charged/189543.md?page=2)